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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/11/10/trump-vs-desantis/#comment-2652743</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[Brian E:

And by the way, there are far easier ways to &quot;check off the boxes&quot; than the path DeSantis took.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian E:</p>
<p>And by the way, there are far easier ways to &#8220;check off the boxes&#8221; than the path DeSantis took.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2022 04:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Brian E:

Being a governor, and a successful one &lt;i&gt;fiscally&lt;/i&gt; as well as otherwise, is experience that&#039;s even more analogous to being a president than running a business.

Did Churchill run a business? If so, I missed it. And no, I&#039;m not saying that DeSantis is Churchill.  Did Reagan run a business? If so, I missed it.  (And no, DeSantis isn&#039;t Reagan, yada yada yada.)

You know which of the presidents in my lifetime had run a business prior to Trump?  Why, Jimmy Carter!  Fat lot of good it did HIM.  And then there was George W. Bush as well as his father George H.W., and another favorite (no doubt) who didn&#039;t become president, George&#039;s brother Jeb. All ran businesses at some point prior to becoming presidents and governors. 

Business experience in and of itself doesn&#039;t mean a whole lot, although combined with other qualities it can be a plus.  But I submit that it&#039;s a plus because it&#039;s &lt;i&gt;executive&lt;/i&gt; experience.  The governorship is also executive experience, and it&#039;s of a type that&#039;s more easily transferable to the presidency.  I would never consider running a business a prerequisite for the presidency, but I do look for successful executive experience and I think governorships are especially relevant forms of executive experience.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian E:</p>
<p>Being a governor, and a successful one <i>fiscally</i> as well as otherwise, is experience that&#8217;s even more analogous to being a president than running a business.</p>
<p>Did Churchill run a business? If so, I missed it. And no, I&#8217;m not saying that DeSantis is Churchill.  Did Reagan run a business? If so, I missed it.  (And no, DeSantis isn&#8217;t Reagan, yada yada yada.)</p>
<p>You know which of the presidents in my lifetime had run a business prior to Trump?  Why, Jimmy Carter!  Fat lot of good it did HIM.  And then there was George W. Bush as well as his father George H.W., and another favorite (no doubt) who didn&#8217;t become president, George&#8217;s brother Jeb. All ran businesses at some point prior to becoming presidents and governors. </p>
<p>Business experience in and of itself doesn&#8217;t mean a whole lot, although combined with other qualities it can be a plus.  But I submit that it&#8217;s a plus because it&#8217;s <i>executive</i> experience.  The governorship is also executive experience, and it&#8217;s of a type that&#8217;s more easily transferable to the presidency.  I would never consider running a business a prerequisite for the presidency, but I do look for successful executive experience and I think governorships are especially relevant forms of executive experience.</p>
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		By: Brian E		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/11/10/trump-vs-desantis/#comment-2652738</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2022 04:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[om,
Good one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>om,<br />
Good one.</p>
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		By: Brian E		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/11/10/trump-vs-desantis/#comment-2652737</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2022 03:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo,
A degree in HISTORY? Well, at least it wasn&#039;t PoliSci! Just kidding. Understanding history is crucial for a President.
He did the minimum time in the Navy. There must be a story how a JAG lawyer received a Bronze Star for one tour in Iraq. That would be interesting.
Served three terms in the House.
One term as governor.
Very ambitious. Like he&#039;s checking off the boxes. Maybe he should serve a second term as Governor. Get some more experience. He&#039;d still only be 48.
I don&#039;t think he&#039;ll run in &#039;24 if Trump announces.

So much for my critique of his resume.

I do think the job of governor does translate to the presidency. 

But I do think having a career as politician doesn&#039;t compare to owning and operating a business.

I do look forward to reading Governor DeSantis&#039; platform should he decide to run.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo,<br />
A degree in HISTORY? Well, at least it wasn&#8217;t PoliSci! Just kidding. Understanding history is crucial for a President.<br />
He did the minimum time in the Navy. There must be a story how a JAG lawyer received a Bronze Star for one tour in Iraq. That would be interesting.<br />
Served three terms in the House.<br />
One term as governor.<br />
Very ambitious. Like he&#8217;s checking off the boxes. Maybe he should serve a second term as Governor. Get some more experience. He&#8217;d still only be 48.<br />
I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;ll run in &#8217;24 if Trump announces.</p>
<p>So much for my critique of his resume.</p>
<p>I do think the job of governor does translate to the presidency. </p>
<p>But I do think having a career as politician doesn&#8217;t compare to owning and operating a business.</p>
<p>I do look forward to reading Governor DeSantis&#8217; platform should he decide to run.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2022 02:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Brian E:

Mitt Romney is our man!  But not Jeb!  Nor was Dwight Eisenhower.  Any other softball wisdom?

Brandon has been running a family business (off the books) for quite some time, does that qualify?  Jimmy Carter ran his family peanut farm, he was and is great, isn&#039;t he?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian E:</p>
<p>Mitt Romney is our man!  But not Jeb!  Nor was Dwight Eisenhower.  Any other softball wisdom?</p>
<p>Brandon has been running a family business (off the books) for quite some time, does that qualify?  Jimmy Carter ran his family peanut farm, he was and is great, isn&#8217;t he?</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2022 02:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Frederick:

Once Conservative Treehouse started talking about it, I suddenly saw it all over the comments sections of blogs on the right. Here, there, and everywhere.  So it was the scuttlebutt among activists on the right spreading the word, and as far as I know it started at Conservative Treehouse on the right.  I have little doubt it was amplified on Twitter and Facebook as well, although I don&#039;t go much to those venues.  

It was big on the right if you pay attention.  And I pay attention. 

Also, see &lt;a href=&quot;https://news.yahoo.com/trump-called-several-gop-donors-155209241.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;things like this&lt;/a&gt; from back in September.  Of course this is news that is going to be picked up:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Former President Donald Trump has asked several of his donors to refrain from boosting Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis — who has emerged as one of the former president&#039;s most formidable potential rivals in a GOP presidential primary matchup — according to The Washington Post...

Per the newspaper&#039;s report, the former president has tracked appearances made by DeSantis, while also monitoring the governor&#039;s poll numbers.

Trump has also taken the step of informing several donors who have also contributed to DeSantis to cease their support of the governor, telling them that the Florida Republican could be a potential 2024 rival, according to an individual tied to the donor world who spoke with The Post.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Apparently the news got leaked that Trump was doing this and of course it got reported.  Just about everything Trump does gets reported, and he knows that.

By the way, if you want to read some previous discussions here on the anti-DeSantis campaign from the right, &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenewneo.com/2022/08/13/open-thread-8-13-22/#comment-2637451&quot;&gt;see this and the comments that follow&lt;/a&gt;, from mid-August.  That seems to have been when it began.  They were trying to sabotage DeSantis by labeling him a GOPe tool who would betray the right. Why?  It&#039;s interesting that this all happened around the same time that Trump was mad at his donors because they were contributing to DeSantis. And this was in the buildup to the 2022 election, in which DeSantis was running.  You can find more discussion in parts of &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenewneo.com/2022/09/16/did-you-know-that-evil-governor-ron-desantis-is-a-nazi-and-a-human-trafficker/&quot;&gt;this thread from mid-September&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frederick:</p>
<p>Once Conservative Treehouse started talking about it, I suddenly saw it all over the comments sections of blogs on the right. Here, there, and everywhere.  So it was the scuttlebutt among activists on the right spreading the word, and as far as I know it started at Conservative Treehouse on the right.  I have little doubt it was amplified on Twitter and Facebook as well, although I don&#8217;t go much to those venues.  </p>
<p>It was big on the right if you pay attention.  And I pay attention. </p>
<p>Also, see <a href="https://news.yahoo.com/trump-called-several-gop-donors-155209241.html" rel="nofollow ugc">things like this</a> from back in September.  Of course this is news that is going to be picked up:</p>
<blockquote><p>Former President Donald Trump has asked several of his donors to refrain from boosting Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis — who has emerged as one of the former president&#8217;s most formidable potential rivals in a GOP presidential primary matchup — according to The Washington Post&#8230;</p>
<p>Per the newspaper&#8217;s report, the former president has tracked appearances made by DeSantis, while also monitoring the governor&#8217;s poll numbers.</p>
<p>Trump has also taken the step of informing several donors who have also contributed to DeSantis to cease their support of the governor, telling them that the Florida Republican could be a potential 2024 rival, according to an individual tied to the donor world who spoke with The Post.</p></blockquote>
<p>Apparently the news got leaked that Trump was doing this and of course it got reported.  Just about everything Trump does gets reported, and he knows that.</p>
<p>By the way, if you want to read some previous discussions here on the anti-DeSantis campaign from the right, <a href="https://www.thenewneo.com/2022/08/13/open-thread-8-13-22/#comment-2637451">see this and the comments that follow</a>, from mid-August.  That seems to have been when it began.  They were trying to sabotage DeSantis by labeling him a GOPe tool who would betray the right. Why?  It&#8217;s interesting that this all happened around the same time that Trump was mad at his donors because they were contributing to DeSantis. And this was in the buildup to the 2022 election, in which DeSantis was running.  You can find more discussion in parts of <a href="https://www.thenewneo.com/2022/09/16/did-you-know-that-evil-governor-ron-desantis-is-a-nazi-and-a-human-trafficker/">this thread from mid-September</a>.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/11/10/trump-vs-desantis/#comment-2652715</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2022 02:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Brian E:

What do you think governors do?  &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.flgov.com/2022/05/20/governor-ron-desantis-announces-record-budget-surplus-as-floridas-economy-continues-to-outperform-the-nation/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;Take a look&lt;/a&gt; at DeSantis&#039; economic record as governor in tough times.

Oh, and by the way, do you know how old DeSantis is?  He recently turned 44.  With all those other accomplishments, when would he have had time to also run a business?  He&#039;s too busy running the state of Florida and doing other impressive things.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian E:</p>
<p>What do you think governors do?  <a href="https://www.flgov.com/2022/05/20/governor-ron-desantis-announces-record-budget-surplus-as-floridas-economy-continues-to-outperform-the-nation/" rel="nofollow ugc">Take a look</a> at DeSantis&#8217; economic record as governor in tough times.</p>
<p>Oh, and by the way, do you know how old DeSantis is?  He recently turned 44.  With all those other accomplishments, when would he have had time to also run a business?  He&#8217;s too busy running the state of Florida and doing other impressive things.</p>
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		By: Brian E		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian E]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2022 01:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[JJ, what I&#039;m not seeing in your biography of Governor DeSantis is any mention of experience meeting a payroll, surviving a recession, taking a risk expanding a business.
If my company had a softball team, I would definitely want him on the team.
Ok, OK, that was uncalled for.

But the experience President Trump has had makes him uniquely qualified as President. 

Don Surber, after the kerfuffle over DeSanctimonious posted this, from a reader:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Thank you, Donald Trump&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;&quot;...He wrote, &quot;Trump gave us a conservative majority SCOTUS....tax cuts.....lowest unemployment in recorded history, especially for POC....Started no new military &#039;conflicts&#039;....Jerusalem embassy....world respect...USA out of climate accords....tough on China.... need I go on? Continue to Refresh the memory? Remind who brought us to the dance?
&quot;Ungrateful bastards. ?Fetterman’s got a legit reason for memory loss.??.&quot;

No presidential candidate was more hated, despised and ridiculed by the media. Lincoln comes closest but at least a few major newspapers had his back. Trump had no one. Not even Fox. Remember those dreadful Fox All-Star panels? Charles Krauthammer and Jonah Goldberg battled over who could smear him the best. It was the Fox version of The View with three men and a dame.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

There are two years before the next election. There&#039;s a year before campaigns begin in earnest. That&#039;s a lifetime in politics.

At this point, I&#039;ll cut President Trump some slack.

https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2022/11/thank-you-donald-trump.html#more]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JJ, what I&#8217;m not seeing in your biography of Governor DeSantis is any mention of experience meeting a payroll, surviving a recession, taking a risk expanding a business.<br />
If my company had a softball team, I would definitely want him on the team.<br />
Ok, OK, that was uncalled for.</p>
<p>But the experience President Trump has had makes him uniquely qualified as President. </p>
<p>Don Surber, after the kerfuffle over DeSanctimonious posted this, from a reader:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Thank you, Donald Trump&#8221;</i></p>
<p><i>&#8220;&#8230;He wrote, &#8220;Trump gave us a conservative majority SCOTUS&#8230;.tax cuts&#8230;..lowest unemployment in recorded history, especially for POC&#8230;.Started no new military &#8216;conflicts&#8217;&#8230;.Jerusalem embassy&#8230;.world respect&#8230;USA out of climate accords&#8230;.tough on China&#8230;. need I go on? Continue to Refresh the memory? Remind who brought us to the dance?<br />
&#8220;Ungrateful bastards. ?Fetterman’s got a legit reason for memory loss.??.&#8221;</p>
<p>No presidential candidate was more hated, despised and ridiculed by the media. Lincoln comes closest but at least a few major newspapers had his back. Trump had no one. Not even Fox. Remember those dreadful Fox All-Star panels? Charles Krauthammer and Jonah Goldberg battled over who could smear him the best. It was the Fox version of The View with three men and a dame.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>There are two years before the next election. There&#8217;s a year before campaigns begin in earnest. That&#8217;s a lifetime in politics.</p>
<p>At this point, I&#8217;ll cut President Trump some slack.</p>
<p><a href="https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2022/11/thank-you-donald-trump.html#more" rel="nofollow ugc">https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2022/11/thank-you-donald-trump.html#more</a></p>
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		By: Jester Naybor		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ray SoCa … &lt;em&gt; I’m still not understanding the hatred of Trump by the GOP Establishment.&lt;/em&gt;

This graphic explains one reason why:

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/32a98764493db6641fca61edd3c1c888607e447fe0f99a6ac63ec8917cbf51fd.png

Another reason: their attitude is that winning is all that counts - not the quality of governance between elections.  Trump showed that the quality of governance can be elevated without the pandering they rely upon to win.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray SoCa … <em> I’m still not understanding the hatred of Trump by the GOP Establishment.</em></p>
<p>This graphic explains one reason why:</p>
<p><a href="https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/32a98764493db6641fca61edd3c1c888607e447fe0f99a6ac63ec8917cbf51fd.png" rel="nofollow ugc">https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/32a98764493db6641fca61edd3c1c888607e447fe0f99a6ac63ec8917cbf51fd.png</a></p>
<p>Another reason: their attitude is that winning is all that counts &#8211; not the quality of governance between elections.  Trump showed that the quality of governance can be elevated without the pandering they rely upon to win.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2022 21:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[you mean they lied, well fibbed a little

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/abortion-didnt-hold-back-republicans/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you mean they lied, well fibbed a little</p>
<p><a href="https://www.theamericanconservative.com/abortion-didnt-hold-back-republicans/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.theamericanconservative.com/abortion-didnt-hold-back-republicans/</a></p>
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