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		By: Cappy		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Face the facts; your liberal neighbors love crime and hate you.  And it&#039;s personal.

Dad was from Poland.  Fought the Nazis, survived a Commie slave labor camp and came home.  His loving neighbors murdered his best friend in that town because he was a Jew.

Dad never forgave Poland for that.  Viewing the eagerness of my classmates and relatives to condemn those who disagreed with vaccinations and masks to the point of proposing denial of health care and disenfranchisement, I see that that kind of viciousness is here.  And I feel the same way about them that my dad did about Poland.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Face the facts; your liberal neighbors love crime and hate you.  And it&#8217;s personal.</p>
<p>Dad was from Poland.  Fought the Nazis, survived a Commie slave labor camp and came home.  His loving neighbors murdered his best friend in that town because he was a Jew.</p>
<p>Dad never forgave Poland for that.  Viewing the eagerness of my classmates and relatives to condemn those who disagreed with vaccinations and masks to the point of proposing denial of health care and disenfranchisement, I see that that kind of viciousness is here.  And I feel the same way about them that my dad did about Poland.</p>
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		By: Stan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2022 02:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When Democrats are never vetted by the press, a lot of mediocre and idiotic candidates rise to prominence. A conservative blogger in DC in the late 90s pointed this out. 

Also explains why national D leaders are so dishonest and so corrupt. When politicians get a pass, the most corrupt win. After all, they have so much inventory to sell. With no downside to corruption we should expect those without a conscience or moral compass to be most successful.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Democrats are never vetted by the press, a lot of mediocre and idiotic candidates rise to prominence. A conservative blogger in DC in the late 90s pointed this out. </p>
<p>Also explains why national D leaders are so dishonest and so corrupt. When politicians get a pass, the most corrupt win. After all, they have so much inventory to sell. With no downside to corruption we should expect those without a conscience or moral compass to be most successful.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2022 20:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The point to establishing new states is to provide residents of “unrepresented” counties a voice in how their states should governed.&lt;/i&gt;

You can do that, but there comes a point where further subdivision is suboptimal either due to the total population and productive base being below a certain threshold or the population being too dispersed to support certain services in house. 


&lt;i&gt;Each new state would receive two US Senators, a few members of the US House of Representatives, and each new state would receive electoral college votes.&lt;/i&gt;

There&#039;s an impediment with that inasmuch as the additional representation generates resistance from extant states.  Best to evade that complaint and accomplish other objects. 


&lt;i&gt;Unlike the Federal presidential elections, in which the electoral college provides low-population states more influence in the election process than their population size would indicate, there is no version of an electoral college in any state election process.&lt;/i&gt;

The electoral college was a compromise constructed to gain the assent of competing interests.  There&#039;s no need to replicate it unless the sort of ad hoc concessions incorporated within it serve to bring two sides to an agreement.



&lt;i&gt;Thus low population counties essentially have no say in their political process because a far-away densely populated area essentially determines the politics of the entire state.These high population density city regions oft times have ZERO in common with any part of their state more than 50 miles away.&lt;/i&gt;

It depends on the settlement patterns within the state in question and how influence is distributed among politicians from different areas.  North Carolina, Michigan, Georgia, and New Jersey have roughly similar populations, but very different distributions.  I  should note that settlements of different size categories are the locus of service provision for their respective hinterlands.  While the culture of the resident population does differ, they do trade with each other.


&lt;i&gt;This situation exists in NY, Wa, Or, Illinois, the non-coastal areas of Calif., etc. – just to name a few.&lt;/i&gt;

The difficulty you have is that in New York and Illinois, &#062; 60% of the population lives in one metropolitan settlement distinct from the rest of the state.  You see this in smaller states such as Hawaii and Rhode Island.  That&#039;s not the case in Washington state, though you can argue that the cultural gulf between SeaTac and the rest of the state is large.  California&#039;s problem is that it&#039;s behemothic.  

&lt;i&gt;W.Virginia’s population exceeds that of the Dakota’s; does that mean that the Dakota’s should not be states or should be “incorporated” into more populous states? Should the electoral college votes of the Dakota’s be eliminated?
And so what that W.Virginia – and a bunch of other states have smallish populations?&lt;/i&gt;

West Virginia has some peculiar problems which the Dakotas do not have.  The Dakotas are missing some pieces which might be supplied by an interstate compact with Minnesota.  



&lt;i&gt;And anyway, what is the problem with re-apportioning the Senate?? It sure could use a face lift.&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s malapportioned by design.  My concern has been stated multiple times: you reapportion the Senate, you get into a dispute you can afford to forego.  The point should be to improve the quality of provincial government.  This can be had through other avenues, avenues more flexible than breaking up extant states.  



&lt;i&gt;The US Senate today is a joke.There are no real debates held – all is pre-arranged in back room deals. US Senate elections are greatly influenced by how much $$$ are contributed by OUT OF STATE big money political partisans.
And check out the “geometry” of congressional districts; it’s a total joke.&lt;/i&gt;

Well, were we to return to election by state legislatures, Senators might do things with purposes in mind other than placating campaign donors.  Of course, there are trade-offs with whichever system you choose.  

&lt;i&gt;The addition of a bunch of new “red” states would be greatly beneficial to how this nation is governed and it can be done real easily without the unnecessarily complicated, convoluted , Rube Goldberg political /administrative contraption you support.&lt;/i&gt;

  The purpose is to produce units of provincial government which take account of settlement patterns while avoiding a reapportionment of the Senate.  It&#039;s not convoluted and it is not unnecessarily complicated.  It requires two steps: a revision of state constitution which reconstitute the state into a confederation of its grand divisions and the conclusion of interstate compacts which allow the establishment of a corporation which functions as a common government with a discrete book of business among combinations of these grand divisions (Downstate New York / Northern New Jersey; the 10 counties around Philadelphia; the 12 county-level jurisdictions around DC, and the residues of New Jersey, Delaware, and Maryland left by these adjustments).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The point to establishing new states is to provide residents of “unrepresented” counties a voice in how their states should governed.</i></p>
<p>You can do that, but there comes a point where further subdivision is suboptimal either due to the total population and productive base being below a certain threshold or the population being too dispersed to support certain services in house. </p>
<p><i>Each new state would receive two US Senators, a few members of the US House of Representatives, and each new state would receive electoral college votes.</i></p>
<p>There&#8217;s an impediment with that inasmuch as the additional representation generates resistance from extant states.  Best to evade that complaint and accomplish other objects. </p>
<p><i>Unlike the Federal presidential elections, in which the electoral college provides low-population states more influence in the election process than their population size would indicate, there is no version of an electoral college in any state election process.</i></p>
<p>The electoral college was a compromise constructed to gain the assent of competing interests.  There&#8217;s no need to replicate it unless the sort of ad hoc concessions incorporated within it serve to bring two sides to an agreement.</p>
<p><i>Thus low population counties essentially have no say in their political process because a far-away densely populated area essentially determines the politics of the entire state.These high population density city regions oft times have ZERO in common with any part of their state more than 50 miles away.</i></p>
<p>It depends on the settlement patterns within the state in question and how influence is distributed among politicians from different areas.  North Carolina, Michigan, Georgia, and New Jersey have roughly similar populations, but very different distributions.  I  should note that settlements of different size categories are the locus of service provision for their respective hinterlands.  While the culture of the resident population does differ, they do trade with each other.</p>
<p><i>This situation exists in NY, Wa, Or, Illinois, the non-coastal areas of Calif., etc. – just to name a few.</i></p>
<p>The difficulty you have is that in New York and Illinois, &gt; 60% of the population lives in one metropolitan settlement distinct from the rest of the state.  You see this in smaller states such as Hawaii and Rhode Island.  That&#8217;s not the case in Washington state, though you can argue that the cultural gulf between SeaTac and the rest of the state is large.  California&#8217;s problem is that it&#8217;s behemothic.  </p>
<p><i>W.Virginia’s population exceeds that of the Dakota’s; does that mean that the Dakota’s should not be states or should be “incorporated” into more populous states? Should the electoral college votes of the Dakota’s be eliminated?<br />
And so what that W.Virginia – and a bunch of other states have smallish populations?</i></p>
<p>West Virginia has some peculiar problems which the Dakotas do not have.  The Dakotas are missing some pieces which might be supplied by an interstate compact with Minnesota.  </p>
<p><i>And anyway, what is the problem with re-apportioning the Senate?? It sure could use a face lift.</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s malapportioned by design.  My concern has been stated multiple times: you reapportion the Senate, you get into a dispute you can afford to forego.  The point should be to improve the quality of provincial government.  This can be had through other avenues, avenues more flexible than breaking up extant states.  </p>
<p><i>The US Senate today is a joke.There are no real debates held – all is pre-arranged in back room deals. US Senate elections are greatly influenced by how much $$$ are contributed by OUT OF STATE big money political partisans.<br />
And check out the “geometry” of congressional districts; it’s a total joke.</i></p>
<p>Well, were we to return to election by state legislatures, Senators might do things with purposes in mind other than placating campaign donors.  Of course, there are trade-offs with whichever system you choose.  </p>
<p><i>The addition of a bunch of new “red” states would be greatly beneficial to how this nation is governed and it can be done real easily without the unnecessarily complicated, convoluted , Rube Goldberg political /administrative contraption you support.</i></p>
<p>  The purpose is to produce units of provincial government which take account of settlement patterns while avoiding a reapportionment of the Senate.  It&#8217;s not convoluted and it is not unnecessarily complicated.  It requires two steps: a revision of state constitution which reconstitute the state into a confederation of its grand divisions and the conclusion of interstate compacts which allow the establishment of a corporation which functions as a common government with a discrete book of business among combinations of these grand divisions (Downstate New York / Northern New Jersey; the 10 counties around Philadelphia; the 12 county-level jurisdictions around DC, and the residues of New Jersey, Delaware, and Maryland left by these adjustments).</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2022 19:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;There is Beto running in Texas on a California platform.&lt;/i&gt;

Good point.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>There is Beto running in Texas on a California platform.</i></p>
<p>Good point.</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2022 18:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Deaf&quot; is involuntary. But the deaf can read.  For many, enough volume gets through.  How about &quot;indifferent &quot;?. Or does not think it politically useful?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Deaf&#8221; is involuntary. But the deaf can read.  For many, enough volume gets through.  How about &#8220;indifferent &#8220;?. Or does not think it politically useful?</p>
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		By: Leland		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2022 15:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Is there a more tone-deaf politician than Hochul of New York?&lt;/i&gt;

There is Beto running in Texas on a California platform.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Is there a more tone-deaf politician than Hochul of New York?</i></p>
<p>There is Beto running in Texas on a California platform.</p>
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		By: JohnTyler		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2022 15:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Art;
The point to establishing new states is to provide residents of &quot;unrepresented&quot; counties a voice in how their states should governed. 
Each new state would receive two US Senators, a few members of the US House of Representatives, and each new state would receive electoral college votes. 

Unlike the Federal presidential elections, in which the electoral college provides low-population states more influence in the election process than their population size would indicate, there is no version of an electoral college in any state election process. 
Thus low population counties essentially have no say in their political process because a far-away densely populated area essentially determines the politics of the entire state.These high population density city regions oft times have ZERO in common with any part of their state more than 50 miles away. 
This situation exists in NY, Wa, Or, Illinois, the non-coastal areas of Calif., etc.  - just to name a few. 

W.Virginia&#039;s population exceeds that of the Dakota&#039;s; does that mean that the Dakota&#039;s should not be states or should be &quot;incorporated&quot; into more populous states? Should the electoral college votes of the Dakota&#039;s be eliminated? 
And so what that W.Virginia - and a bunch of other states have smallish populations? 
The point you make on this meaningless. 

And anyway,  what is the problem with re-apportioning the Senate?? It sure could use a face  lift. 
The US Senate today is a joke.There are no real debates held - all is pre-arranged in back room deals. US Senate elections are greatly influenced by how much $$$ are contributed by OUT OF STATE big money political partisans. 
And check out the &quot;geometry&quot; of congressional districts; it&#039;s a total joke. 

The addition of a bunch of new &quot;red&quot; states would be greatly beneficial to how this nation is governed and it can be done real easily without the unnecessarily complicated,  convoluted , Rube Goldberg political /administrative contraption you support.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art;<br />
The point to establishing new states is to provide residents of &#8220;unrepresented&#8221; counties a voice in how their states should governed.<br />
Each new state would receive two US Senators, a few members of the US House of Representatives, and each new state would receive electoral college votes. </p>
<p>Unlike the Federal presidential elections, in which the electoral college provides low-population states more influence in the election process than their population size would indicate, there is no version of an electoral college in any state election process.<br />
Thus low population counties essentially have no say in their political process because a far-away densely populated area essentially determines the politics of the entire state.These high population density city regions oft times have ZERO in common with any part of their state more than 50 miles away.<br />
This situation exists in NY, Wa, Or, Illinois, the non-coastal areas of Calif., etc.  &#8211; just to name a few. </p>
<p>W.Virginia&#8217;s population exceeds that of the Dakota&#8217;s; does that mean that the Dakota&#8217;s should not be states or should be &#8220;incorporated&#8221; into more populous states? Should the electoral college votes of the Dakota&#8217;s be eliminated?<br />
And so what that W.Virginia &#8211; and a bunch of other states have smallish populations?<br />
The point you make on this meaningless. </p>
<p>And anyway,  what is the problem with re-apportioning the Senate?? It sure could use a face  lift.<br />
The US Senate today is a joke.There are no real debates held &#8211; all is pre-arranged in back room deals. US Senate elections are greatly influenced by how much $$$ are contributed by OUT OF STATE big money political partisans.<br />
And check out the &#8220;geometry&#8221; of congressional districts; it&#8217;s a total joke. </p>
<p>The addition of a bunch of new &#8220;red&#8221; states would be greatly beneficial to how this nation is governed and it can be done real easily without the unnecessarily complicated,  convoluted , Rube Goldberg political /administrative contraption you support.</p>
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		By: Mike K		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2022 15:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Can a politician be tone deaf? Yeah, you can be Donald Trump worrying about being out of the lime light attacking Ron DeSantis because DeSantis is making headlines and gaining popularity.&lt;/i&gt;

Actually that quip was directed at DeSantis&#039; latest campaign video, which was indeed sanctimonious.

&lt;a href=&quot;https://people.com/politics/ron-desantis-god-made-fighter-ad/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt; Here is the ad and some commentary on it&lt;/a&gt;

I agree the timing was not the best.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Can a politician be tone deaf? Yeah, you can be Donald Trump worrying about being out of the lime light attacking Ron DeSantis because DeSantis is making headlines and gaining popularity.</i></p>
<p>Actually that quip was directed at DeSantis&#8217; latest campaign video, which was indeed sanctimonious.</p>
<p><a href="https://people.com/politics/ron-desantis-god-made-fighter-ad/" rel="nofollow ugc"> Here is the ad and some commentary on it</a></p>
<p>I agree the timing was not the best.</p>
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		By: David Foster		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Foster]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[My new post is about political opinion and political persuasion:

https://chicagoboyz.net/archives/68576.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My new post is about political opinion and political persuasion:</p>
<p><a href="https://chicagoboyz.net/archives/68576.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://chicagoboyz.net/archives/68576.html</a></p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;It’s a Democrat Empire state now. As in Star Wars type empire.&lt;/i&gt;

Horse left the barn a century ago.  The prosperity of the Republican Party in New York over the period running from about 1918 to about 1974 was crucially dependent on two factors: (1) voters disgusted with Tammany Hall voted Republican and (2) an indifferently apportioned legislature.  Prominent Republicans prior to 1975 included  Jacob Javits, Louis Lefkowitz, Nelson Rockefeller, Malcolm Wilson, Kenneth Keating, John Lindsay.  Wilson and Keating might be described as &#039;programmatic temporizers&#039; rather like Susan Collins.  The rest were liberals, though the Ripon Society element did have a somewhat different vibe than the mainstream Democratic Party.  Did not have the clubhouse and union hall element.  

The only Republicans elected statewide since have been Edward Regan, whose disposition was technocratic in essence, Alphonse d&#039;Amato (greaser), and George Pataki (snide and sociopathic, and the issue of d&#039;Amato&#039;s patron-client network).  The appeal of d&#039;Amato and Pataki was frankly baffling and another indicator of the New York electorate being its own worst enemy.  The last time Repubicans won a statewide contest was in 2002. Not many impressive Republican candidates.  Among the few  have been Harry Wilson, the candidate for comptroller in 2010 and Lewis Lehrman, the candidate for governor in 1982.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It’s a Democrat Empire state now. As in Star Wars type empire.</i></p>
<p>Horse left the barn a century ago.  The prosperity of the Republican Party in New York over the period running from about 1918 to about 1974 was crucially dependent on two factors: (1) voters disgusted with Tammany Hall voted Republican and (2) an indifferently apportioned legislature.  Prominent Republicans prior to 1975 included  Jacob Javits, Louis Lefkowitz, Nelson Rockefeller, Malcolm Wilson, Kenneth Keating, John Lindsay.  Wilson and Keating might be described as &#8216;programmatic temporizers&#8217; rather like Susan Collins.  The rest were liberals, though the Ripon Society element did have a somewhat different vibe than the mainstream Democratic Party.  Did not have the clubhouse and union hall element.  </p>
<p>The only Republicans elected statewide since have been Edward Regan, whose disposition was technocratic in essence, Alphonse d&#8217;Amato (greaser), and George Pataki (snide and sociopathic, and the issue of d&#8217;Amato&#8217;s patron-client network).  The appeal of d&#8217;Amato and Pataki was frankly baffling and another indicator of the New York electorate being its own worst enemy.  The last time Repubicans won a statewide contest was in 2002. Not many impressive Republican candidates.  Among the few  have been Harry Wilson, the candidate for comptroller in 2010 and Lewis Lehrman, the candidate for governor in 1982.</p>
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