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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/11/03/open-thread-hines-and-baryshnikov/#comment-2651510</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2022 08:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Frederick &#062; &quot;The prospect of losing that cash flow is what is creating all this anger.&quot;

That&#039;s been pretty clear since 2016.
Well, that and revealing all of the illegal operations of the Obama administration (and possibly earlier ones).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Frederick &gt; &#8220;The prospect of losing that cash flow is what is creating all this anger.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s been pretty clear since 2016.<br />
Well, that and revealing all of the illegal operations of the Obama administration (and possibly earlier ones).</p>
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		By: Stan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/11/03/open-thread-hines-and-baryshnikov/#comment-2651481</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2022 02:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[By end of Obama admin government was spending over 25k in anti-poverty programs for every person living in a household deemed under the poverty line. Note — much income redistribution is not done with anti-poverty programs. 

I can’t find more recent numbers. We know that a welfare mom with three kids doesn’t get 100 grand. Dems have to find a way to pay all those get out the vote workers. 

As for the acceptability of dance in the early part of the century,  Minnie Pearl was a dance teacher after she graduated from a prestigious women’s finishing school/college. Unlike the character  from Grinder’s Switch, she was a well-educated woman from a rich family who grew up in Centerville TN about 50 miles from Nashville. Her mother played organ at church so we can assume that there was nothing about dance that would have been considered inappropriate in rural Tennessee at the time.  She took a lot of dance in school. Her years as a dance teacher would have been in the 30s.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By end of Obama admin government was spending over 25k in anti-poverty programs for every person living in a household deemed under the poverty line. Note — much income redistribution is not done with anti-poverty programs. </p>
<p>I can’t find more recent numbers. We know that a welfare mom with three kids doesn’t get 100 grand. Dems have to find a way to pay all those get out the vote workers. </p>
<p>As for the acceptability of dance in the early part of the century,  Minnie Pearl was a dance teacher after she graduated from a prestigious women’s finishing school/college. Unlike the character  from Grinder’s Switch, she was a well-educated woman from a rich family who grew up in Centerville TN about 50 miles from Nashville. Her mother played organ at church so we can assume that there was nothing about dance that would have been considered inappropriate in rural Tennessee at the time.  She took a lot of dance in school. Her years as a dance teacher would have been in the 30s.</p>
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		By: Gordon Scott		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gordon Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2022 21:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, yeah, the Homeless Industrial Complex is very real, and it is staffed with people who hate you, facist! They have well-paid jobs with excellent benefits, and the continuation of that depends on them not solving the homeless problem.

They&#039;re also all seeing chiropractors for the repetitive-motion injuries they suffer from patting themselves on the back.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, yeah, the Homeless Industrial Complex is very real, and it is staffed with people who hate you, facist! They have well-paid jobs with excellent benefits, and the continuation of that depends on them not solving the homeless problem.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re also all seeing chiropractors for the repetitive-motion injuries they suffer from patting themselves on the back.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2022 18:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;In my neck of the woods the governor is planning to spend $800 million on homelessness. There is something like 20,000 “homeless” in Washington State (scare quotes because the definition is pretty expansive). That’s $40,000 per person if distributed directly among them, which is much more than I pay annually on the mortgage and taxes for my middle-class single family house. The $800 million is NOT being directly distributed to the homeless. It will be trickled down through government programs and contractors, all of whom will get a piece, and when they’d done that there will still be 20,000 “homeless”.&lt;/i&gt;

Assisting vagrants in keeping body and soul together is a problem sufficiently circumscribed that it can be handled by private charity.  The role of local government is in enforcing the laws on loitering and in providing extra security in those parts of the metropolis where emergency shelters are to be found.  Policing is, optimally, a function of county government.  The role of state government is to expand capacity in state asylums as needed and / or provide more funding for Medicaid-allied programs to finance long-term care in private asylums.  More asylum space in the state prison system would commonly be advisable as well. There is no role for the federal government in addressing this issue.   A co-worker of mine once said, &quot;I like problems much better than I do issues.  Problems have discrete solutions.  Issues go on and on.   Vagrancy is an issue.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>In my neck of the woods the governor is planning to spend $800 million on homelessness. There is something like 20,000 “homeless” in Washington State (scare quotes because the definition is pretty expansive). That’s $40,000 per person if distributed directly among them, which is much more than I pay annually on the mortgage and taxes for my middle-class single family house. The $800 million is NOT being directly distributed to the homeless. It will be trickled down through government programs and contractors, all of whom will get a piece, and when they’d done that there will still be 20,000 “homeless”.</i></p>
<p>Assisting vagrants in keeping body and soul together is a problem sufficiently circumscribed that it can be handled by private charity.  The role of local government is in enforcing the laws on loitering and in providing extra security in those parts of the metropolis where emergency shelters are to be found.  Policing is, optimally, a function of county government.  The role of state government is to expand capacity in state asylums as needed and / or provide more funding for Medicaid-allied programs to finance long-term care in private asylums.  More asylum space in the state prison system would commonly be advisable as well. There is no role for the federal government in addressing this issue.   A co-worker of mine once said, &#8220;I like problems much better than I do issues.  Problems have discrete solutions.  Issues go on and on.   Vagrancy is an issue.</p>
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		By: Frederick		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frederick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2022 18:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I really don&#039;t think this is about feelings.  Most of what goes on in Congress is taking tax money from all of us and redistributing it to some of us. Many connected people on both sides of the aisle profit from this, inside and outside of office holders.

Someone like Trump, who thought government was for doing stuff instead of distributing taxpayer money, is an existential threat to people&#039;s livelihoods. That&#039;s why the Swamp crossed him at every turn.

In my neck of the woods the governor is planning to spend $800 million on homelessness. There is something like 20,000 &quot;homeless&quot; in Washington State (scare quotes because the definition is pretty expansive).  That&#039;s $40,000 per person if distributed directly among them, which is much more than I pay annually on the mortgage and taxes for my middle-class single family house.   The $800 million is NOT being directly distributed to the homeless.  It will be trickled down through government programs and contractors, all of whom will get a piece, and when they&#039;d done that there will still be 20,000 &quot;homeless&quot;.

One initiative by one state government. Multiply by 50 states and add the Federal government.

The prospect of losing that cash flow is what is creating all this anger.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t think this is about feelings.  Most of what goes on in Congress is taking tax money from all of us and redistributing it to some of us. Many connected people on both sides of the aisle profit from this, inside and outside of office holders.</p>
<p>Someone like Trump, who thought government was for doing stuff instead of distributing taxpayer money, is an existential threat to people&#8217;s livelihoods. That&#8217;s why the Swamp crossed him at every turn.</p>
<p>In my neck of the woods the governor is planning to spend $800 million on homelessness. There is something like 20,000 &#8220;homeless&#8221; in Washington State (scare quotes because the definition is pretty expansive).  That&#8217;s $40,000 per person if distributed directly among them, which is much more than I pay annually on the mortgage and taxes for my middle-class single family house.   The $800 million is NOT being directly distributed to the homeless.  It will be trickled down through government programs and contractors, all of whom will get a piece, and when they&#8217;d done that there will still be 20,000 &#8220;homeless&#8221;.</p>
<p>One initiative by one state government. Multiply by 50 states and add the Federal government.</p>
<p>The prospect of losing that cash flow is what is creating all this anger.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/11/03/open-thread-hines-and-baryshnikov/#comment-2651317</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2022 11:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Plus, he said awful awful things about them. In this article I wrote about the awful things Trump said about Bush and by extension Cheney. They have never forgiven him, which is kind of understandable actually. So for them, it’s political and it’s personal.&lt;/i&gt;

He said worse things about John McCain.  AFAICT, Meghan McCain and Ben Domenech haven&#039;t been in a fury at 3d parties who have Trump&#039;s endorsement.  He dinged Heidi Cruz as well; I&#039;m going to wager that for her husband, revenge is a dish served cold; in the interim, it&#039;s business.  

About the Bushes.  They intersected professionally with the Clintons and the Obamas.  In re the Obamas, they were ships passing in the night.  Yet, somehow, Bilge if not Hillary managed to worm his way into the Elder Bush&#039;s circle of friends and the public behavior of the younger Bush vis a vis Michelle Obama is downright creepy.  There&#039;s no reason for the Bushes to associate with the Clintons or the Obamas. (Unless I&#039;m mistaken, the Carters keep their distance from the Clintons if not the Obamas).  Yet, here we have scores of people unjustly jailed in DC, most of them people who probably cast a ballot for George W. Bush, and he not only says nothing about their mistreatment, he endorses it by comparing them to 9/11 terrorists.  

The manager of a Jewish philanthropy which had been the recipient of donations from Ivan Boesky once said, &quot;There are givers and there are users.  He&#039;s a user&quot;.   The Bushes are users.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Plus, he said awful awful things about them. In this article I wrote about the awful things Trump said about Bush and by extension Cheney. They have never forgiven him, which is kind of understandable actually. So for them, it’s political and it’s personal.</i></p>
<p>He said worse things about John McCain.  AFAICT, Meghan McCain and Ben Domenech haven&#8217;t been in a fury at 3d parties who have Trump&#8217;s endorsement.  He dinged Heidi Cruz as well; I&#8217;m going to wager that for her husband, revenge is a dish served cold; in the interim, it&#8217;s business.  </p>
<p>About the Bushes.  They intersected professionally with the Clintons and the Obamas.  In re the Obamas, they were ships passing in the night.  Yet, somehow, Bilge if not Hillary managed to worm his way into the Elder Bush&#8217;s circle of friends and the public behavior of the younger Bush vis a vis Michelle Obama is downright creepy.  There&#8217;s no reason for the Bushes to associate with the Clintons or the Obamas. (Unless I&#8217;m mistaken, the Carters keep their distance from the Clintons if not the Obamas).  Yet, here we have scores of people unjustly jailed in DC, most of them people who probably cast a ballot for George W. Bush, and he not only says nothing about their mistreatment, he endorses it by comparing them to 9/11 terrorists.  </p>
<p>The manager of a Jewish philanthropy which had been the recipient of donations from Ivan Boesky once said, &#8220;There are givers and there are users.  He&#8217;s a user&#8221;.   The Bushes are users.</p>
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		By: Molly Brown		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Molly Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2022 10:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wonderful clip, Neo, thanks for posting.  About the different styles. For me the most noticeable difference is in the upper body carriage of the two men.  Hines does not slouch but his upper body is much more relaxed and integrated with his lower body movement whereas Baryshnikov has a more upright carriage and keeps his upper body still.  The still on the post shows this very clearly in the shoulders of the dancers.
This post and seeing some clips of early 30&#039;s Hollywood dance numbers got me wondering.  When did dance training become widespread enough to field so much talent by the 30&#039;s?  Shirley Temple&#039;s mother put her in dance class as a toddler, and Tommy Rall&#039;s mother same at a bit later age.  But I am curious about the generation before them.  Was ballet/dance class the de rigueur activity for middle and upperclass girls in 1915 that it was in 1955?  I have a hazy memory of reading that &#039;dance&#039; was not quite respectable in the 19th century.  When did that change?  And more modern forms than ballet, where did one train them? Could you even get tap lessons in 1915?  Or did all this marvelous talent come out of vaudeville?
Enlighten me please, Neo!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful clip, Neo, thanks for posting.  About the different styles. For me the most noticeable difference is in the upper body carriage of the two men.  Hines does not slouch but his upper body is much more relaxed and integrated with his lower body movement whereas Baryshnikov has a more upright carriage and keeps his upper body still.  The still on the post shows this very clearly in the shoulders of the dancers.<br />
This post and seeing some clips of early 30&#8217;s Hollywood dance numbers got me wondering.  When did dance training become widespread enough to field so much talent by the 30&#8217;s?  Shirley Temple&#8217;s mother put her in dance class as a toddler, and Tommy Rall&#8217;s mother same at a bit later age.  But I am curious about the generation before them.  Was ballet/dance class the de rigueur activity for middle and upperclass girls in 1915 that it was in 1955?  I have a hazy memory of reading that &#8216;dance&#8217; was not quite respectable in the 19th century.  When did that change?  And more modern forms than ballet, where did one train them? Could you even get tap lessons in 1915?  Or did all this marvelous talent come out of vaudeville?<br />
Enlighten me please, Neo!</p>
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		By: TJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2022 10:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Newstories relating to election fraud in the biggest cities in the frauded states “for” the fraudulent Xi-Den have been increasing — even if the State Media fascists don’t see them — and here’s ba good one to follow up on from Wisconsin: via Twitter

Dan O&#039;Donnell

@DanODonnellShow (NewsRadio 1130)
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17h ago:

“HOLY S***: Kimberly Zapata, the deputy director of the City of Milwaukee Election Commission has just been fired for committing election fraud by obtaining fake military ballots and sending them to Assembly Elections Committee chairwoman Janel Brandtjen.”

Go to sleep. There’s no fraud — nothing to see — ignore the above — it never happened! Just more lies....(yawn)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newstories relating to election fraud in the biggest cities in the frauded states “for” the fraudulent Xi-Den have been increasing — even if the State Media fascists don’t see them — and here’s ba good one to follow up on from Wisconsin: via Twitter</p>
<p>Dan O&#8217;Donnell</p>
<p>@DanODonnellShow (NewsRadio 1130)<br />
·<br />
17h ago:</p>
<p>“HOLY S***: Kimberly Zapata, the deputy director of the City of Milwaukee Election Commission has just been fired for committing election fraud by obtaining fake military ballots and sending them to Assembly Elections Committee chairwoman Janel Brandtjen.”</p>
<p>Go to sleep. There’s no fraud — nothing to see — ignore the above — it never happened! Just more lies&#8230;.(yawn)</p>
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		By: Jordan Rivers		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jordan Rivers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2022 05:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Paul Pelosi was allegedly taken to the hospital,  due to a hammer blow from illegal alien David DePape. If true, this seems like poetic justice, since Paul&#039;s wife is Nasty Nancy,  an illegal alien enabler.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Pelosi was allegedly taken to the hospital,  due to a hammer blow from illegal alien David DePape. If true, this seems like poetic justice, since Paul&#8217;s wife is Nasty Nancy,  an illegal alien enabler.</p>
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		By: Jahaziel+Maqqebet		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/11/03/open-thread-hines-and-baryshnikov/#comment-2651291</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jahaziel+Maqqebet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2022 05:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[?? Hines brother as well]]></description>
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