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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/10/29/the-campaign-ad-game/#comment-2650646</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2022 17:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Art Deco:

Of course there were people who hated Trump enough to vote for anyone else. But not enough people.  Biden attracted those people plus he was acceptable to more people in the middle. Polls reflected it, as well.  He had the best chance of beating Trump.  Especially compared to Sanders, who was the front-runner at the time that the Democrats threw their weight behind Biden.

As for Hillary&#039;s health, of course many people took the Parkinson&#039;s talk and ran with it.  It also was incorrect - she has no reason for a diagnosis of Parkinson&#039;s even 6 years later and didn&#039;t back then, whatever that doctor said. Parkinson&#039;s is VERY difficult to diagnose in its early stages and the symptoms are common ones in older people - difficult to diagnose &lt;i&gt;even when a physician has examined the patient&lt;/i&gt;. 

I happen to know a lot about Parkinson&#039;s.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art Deco:</p>
<p>Of course there were people who hated Trump enough to vote for anyone else. But not enough people.  Biden attracted those people plus he was acceptable to more people in the middle. Polls reflected it, as well.  He had the best chance of beating Trump.  Especially compared to Sanders, who was the front-runner at the time that the Democrats threw their weight behind Biden.</p>
<p>As for Hillary&#8217;s health, of course many people took the Parkinson&#8217;s talk and ran with it.  It also was incorrect &#8211; she has no reason for a diagnosis of Parkinson&#8217;s even 6 years later and didn&#8217;t back then, whatever that doctor said. Parkinson&#8217;s is VERY difficult to diagnose in its early stages and the symptoms are common ones in older people &#8211; difficult to diagnose <i>even when a physician has examined the patient</i>. </p>
<p>I happen to know a lot about Parkinson&#8217;s.  </p>
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		By: GRA		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/10/29/the-campaign-ad-game/#comment-2650628</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2022 16:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The whole &quot;was raised in a mean household that was conservative/religious&quot; always seemed suspect to. me. Maybe you were raised in a conservative and religious household, but I doubt many stories where it claims the odd duck prog, whether growing up or a now political/social convert, as the victim in such a one-sided tale. If leftists are now throwing in moral grayness in entertainment in stories that don&#039;t involve them pontificating, then they should also throw some of that into their own personal lives when they&#039;re made to reflect on their younger selves. Maybe you were just being the most boring rebellious, edgy 18 year old. Maybe you were being insufferable during the holidays back from second year of university.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole &#8220;was raised in a mean household that was conservative/religious&#8221; always seemed suspect to. me. Maybe you were raised in a conservative and religious household, but I doubt many stories where it claims the odd duck prog, whether growing up or a now political/social convert, as the victim in such a one-sided tale. If leftists are now throwing in moral grayness in entertainment in stories that don&#8217;t involve them pontificating, then they should also throw some of that into their own personal lives when they&#8217;re made to reflect on their younger selves. Maybe you were just being the most boring rebellious, edgy 18 year old. Maybe you were being insufferable during the holidays back from second year of university.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/10/29/the-campaign-ad-game/#comment-2650611</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2022 14:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The reason the Democrat establishment put their full weight behind Biden was because they judged him (I think correctly) as the only person who could beat Trump or who could be successffully helped to beat Trump. &lt;/i&gt;

People alienated from Trump would have voted for a dead dog in the road.  The question at hand is whether or not someone else would have offended fewer persuadables.  And, yes, I think most of them would have.  Bernie Sanders has a vigorous counter-constituency, but the rest of them do not, with the possible exception of Elizabeth Warren.  


&lt;i&gt;All the hype about Hillary’s having Parkinson’s and all sorts of things like that was wrong, and it was obviously wrong at the time. It’s now 6 years later and she’s still going quite strong. &lt;/i&gt;

It wasn&#039;t hype.  It was one physician living in Florida who put his  name on it in a series of explanatory videos, and he was cautious in his presentation. Since any of her public appearances are carefully curated, we have a deficient understanding of just what her condition is. 

Some Parkinson&#039;s patients decline very slowly, some decline catastrophically in just a few years.  Michael J. Fox has a screen credit dated 2021; he&#039;s had Parkinson&#039;s for 30 years.

It doesn&#039;t have to be Parkinson&#039;s.  Dr. Noel does make the case that something very odd is going on with her.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The reason the Democrat establishment put their full weight behind Biden was because they judged him (I think correctly) as the only person who could beat Trump or who could be successffully helped to beat Trump. </i></p>
<p>People alienated from Trump would have voted for a dead dog in the road.  The question at hand is whether or not someone else would have offended fewer persuadables.  And, yes, I think most of them would have.  Bernie Sanders has a vigorous counter-constituency, but the rest of them do not, with the possible exception of Elizabeth Warren.  </p>
<p><i>All the hype about Hillary’s having Parkinson’s and all sorts of things like that was wrong, and it was obviously wrong at the time. It’s now 6 years later and she’s still going quite strong. </i></p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t hype.  It was one physician living in Florida who put his  name on it in a series of explanatory videos, and he was cautious in his presentation. Since any of her public appearances are carefully curated, we have a deficient understanding of just what her condition is. </p>
<p>Some Parkinson&#8217;s patients decline very slowly, some decline catastrophically in just a few years.  Michael J. Fox has a screen credit dated 2021; he&#8217;s had Parkinson&#8217;s for 30 years.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t have to be Parkinson&#8217;s.  Dr. Noel does make the case that something very odd is going on with her.</p>
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		By: Cappy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/10/29/the-campaign-ad-game/#comment-2650610</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cappy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2022 14:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We&#039;re getting a lot of ads in Ohio from people that say they&#039;re Republican but won&#039;t vote for JD Vance because he didn&#039;t like Trump in 2016.  Nobody knows who these people are.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re getting a lot of ads in Ohio from people that say they&#8217;re Republican but won&#8217;t vote for JD Vance because he didn&#8217;t like Trump in 2016.  Nobody knows who these people are.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/10/29/the-campaign-ad-game/#comment-2650595</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2022 09:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This looks like it should make a pretty decent campaign ad:
(But once again, for whom?...)
&quot;Biden admin accuses Arizona of trespassing by building barrier on U.S.-Mexico border&quot;---
https://www.foxnews.com/us/biden-admin-accuses-arizona-trespassing-building-barrier-u-s-mexico-border
Opening grafs:
&#039; Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey was accused this week by the Biden Administration of trespassing as the Republican governor makes efforts to fill gaps along the U.S.-Mexico border with shipping containers.
&#039; Ducey announced last week that he would have crews install shipping containers along a section of the border to fill gaps not covered by a wall. The announcement came two weeks after federal officials ordered him to take down containers he had placed in the southwestern part of the state.
&#039; The Republican governor then sued and requested the courts allow Arizona to keep 100 shipping containers, double stacked with barbed wire on top, in place near Yuma.
&#039; The containers were put in place in August to fill gaps in the border, which Ducey said was pushing back against &quot;the inaction of the Biden Administration in stopping migrants from entering the state from Mexico...&quot;....&#039;

The message is clear:
You are not supposed to protect yourself.
You are not supposed to defend yourself.
You are not ALLOWED to defend and protect yourself. 
(That is, if you are a Republican or if you run a Republican state...Or unless your name is Pelosi...)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks like it should make a pretty decent campaign ad:<br />
(But once again, for whom?&#8230;)<br />
&#8220;Biden admin accuses Arizona of trespassing by building barrier on U.S.-Mexico border&#8221;&#8212;<br />
<a href="https://www.foxnews.com/us/biden-admin-accuses-arizona-trespassing-building-barrier-u-s-mexico-border" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.foxnews.com/us/biden-admin-accuses-arizona-trespassing-building-barrier-u-s-mexico-border</a><br />
Opening grafs:<br />
&#8216; Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey was accused this week by the Biden Administration of trespassing as the Republican governor makes efforts to fill gaps along the U.S.-Mexico border with shipping containers.<br />
&#8216; Ducey announced last week that he would have crews install shipping containers along a section of the border to fill gaps not covered by a wall. The announcement came two weeks after federal officials ordered him to take down containers he had placed in the southwestern part of the state.<br />
&#8216; The Republican governor then sued and requested the courts allow Arizona to keep 100 shipping containers, double stacked with barbed wire on top, in place near Yuma.<br />
&#8216; The containers were put in place in August to fill gaps in the border, which Ducey said was pushing back against &#8220;the inaction of the Biden Administration in stopping migrants from entering the state from Mexico&#8230;&#8221;&#8230;.&#8217;</p>
<p>The message is clear:<br />
You are not supposed to protect yourself.<br />
You are not supposed to defend yourself.<br />
You are not ALLOWED to defend and protect yourself.<br />
(That is, if you are a Republican or if you run a Republican state&#8230;Or unless your name is Pelosi&#8230;)</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/10/29/the-campaign-ad-game/#comment-2650590</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2022 08:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All ye&#039; need to know...
Remember that murder plot against Judge Kavanaugh? 
(You don&#039;t? Don&#039;t blame ye&#039;...)
&quot;Shellenberger: Pelosi &#038; Kavanaugh Murder-Plots Expose Media Double-Standard&quot;---
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/shellenberger-pelosi-kavanaugh-murder-plots-expose-media-double-standard

I would add that all those SF &quot;commoners&quot; who over the past several years were mugged, robbed, beaten up, violated, vandalized, threatened, humiliated...guess they don&#039;t count...for anything...not in the Democratic Party playbook anyway...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All ye&#8217; need to know&#8230;<br />
Remember that murder plot against Judge Kavanaugh?<br />
(You don&#8217;t? Don&#8217;t blame ye&#8217;&#8230;)<br />
&#8220;Shellenberger: Pelosi &amp; Kavanaugh Murder-Plots Expose Media Double-Standard&#8221;&#8212;<br />
<a href="https://www.zerohedge.com/political/shellenberger-pelosi-kavanaugh-murder-plots-expose-media-double-standard" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.zerohedge.com/political/shellenberger-pelosi-kavanaugh-murder-plots-expose-media-double-standard</a></p>
<p>I would add that all those SF &#8220;commoners&#8221; who over the past several years were mugged, robbed, beaten up, violated, vandalized, threatened, humiliated&#8230;guess they don&#8217;t count&#8230;for anything&#8230;not in the Democratic Party playbook anyway&#8230;</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/10/29/the-campaign-ad-game/#comment-2650567</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2022 22:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[this is who karl rove is supporting

https://thepostmillennial.com/flashback-dem-candidate-for-governor-josh-shapiro-sponsored-event-at-drag-queen-gay-bingo?utm_campaign=64502]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is who karl rove is supporting</p>
<p><a href="https://thepostmillennial.com/flashback-dem-candidate-for-governor-josh-shapiro-sponsored-event-at-drag-queen-gay-bingo?utm_campaign=64502" rel="nofollow ugc">https://thepostmillennial.com/flashback-dem-candidate-for-governor-josh-shapiro-sponsored-event-at-drag-queen-gay-bingo?utm_campaign=64502</a></p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/10/29/the-campaign-ad-game/#comment-2650564</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2022 21:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Can&#039;t be denied that she suffers from chronic ghoulishness.
Or is that Pelosi&#039;s &quot;issue&quot;.
Hey, maybe they should start a support group.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t be denied that she suffers from chronic ghoulishness.<br />
Or is that Pelosi&#8217;s &#8220;issue&#8221;.<br />
Hey, maybe they should start a support group.</p>
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		By: stan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/10/29/the-campaign-ad-game/#comment-2650562</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2022 21:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TV ads are generally an enormous waste of money. Several points:

1. Now that Democrats are the party of the super rich, they have had a huge advantage in spending. 

2. The ads are terrible. Any of us could put together simple ads that hammer the long parade of horribles that the Democrats now own. GOP rarely scores effectively with all the money spent.

3. With less than 1% of the amounts spent on tv ads, a conservative group of talented meme creators (and compilers) could produce devastating material for people to spread on social media and via text and email which would be far more effective in producing extra marginal votes. No, I don&#039;t have any research to back that up. But I am 100% convinced it is true.

4. Same thing for blog posts and Substack content. Whether by the actual GOP or simply a conservative/libertarian deep pocket, a well-edited compilation of the strongest arguments and fact-based posts that everyone could rely on would be huge. There is no reason to rely on Republican candidates to make the arguments that need to be made. Lefty groups don&#039;t sit back and wait for Dems to make their claims. Thought leaders and communicators on the right need to step up and provide year round, all years, access to all the arguments in an organized manner. Would be far more productive for elections than another ten or 20 million in wasteful tv ads.

Here&#039;s an example to show how history is buried under lies -- Bush&#039;s tax reforms dramatically shifted the tax burden away from the middle class and on to the highest earners.  You have to search long and hard to find anything about that by google search. Even a lot of conservatives are surprised to hear that (demonstrating the power of Dem lies, message discipline and a news media propaganda echo).

Example 2 -- our current inflation is due to a whole host of bad Democrat policies. Lots and lots. Republican politicians have been pathetically awful at pointing out most of them. They seem content to simply blame Biden because he is prez, gas prices are high, and Dems spent a bunch. This is a huge, missed opportunity. So much more:

-- lockdowns (lots of horrible policies, lots of ways they damaged economy and ultimately contributed to inflation)
-- vaxx mandates (reduced labor force significantly at the margin)
-- paying people not to work [this was huge. Can&#039;t be overemphasized]
-- BLM riots and destruction
-- out of control crime keeping people from returning to work
-- Supply chain idiocy: a) Cal Democrats outlawed trucks over ten years old. b) local Democrats&#039; law limited container stacks in port to only two high instead of the normal six. Reduced port capacity by 2/3. Huge part of supply chain problem. c) instead of leaning on local and state Dems to fix issues, Biden simply required waiting ships to move farther from shore to anchor so not as visible. This should have been hammered home because it is a perfect example of Biden/Dem idiocy and total focus on spin. d) Los Angeles rail yards were crime central. Check the photos. The unwillingness of lefty Dems in LA to provide police, arrest thieves and prosecute them caused massive theft and vandalism of rail cars.

Conservatives/libertarians should relentlessy hammer home that all the Dem idiocy at all levels worked to wreck the economy, raise prices and hurt all Americans regardless of whether they live in a blue or red area.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TV ads are generally an enormous waste of money. Several points:</p>
<p>1. Now that Democrats are the party of the super rich, they have had a huge advantage in spending. </p>
<p>2. The ads are terrible. Any of us could put together simple ads that hammer the long parade of horribles that the Democrats now own. GOP rarely scores effectively with all the money spent.</p>
<p>3. With less than 1% of the amounts spent on tv ads, a conservative group of talented meme creators (and compilers) could produce devastating material for people to spread on social media and via text and email which would be far more effective in producing extra marginal votes. No, I don&#8217;t have any research to back that up. But I am 100% convinced it is true.</p>
<p>4. Same thing for blog posts and Substack content. Whether by the actual GOP or simply a conservative/libertarian deep pocket, a well-edited compilation of the strongest arguments and fact-based posts that everyone could rely on would be huge. There is no reason to rely on Republican candidates to make the arguments that need to be made. Lefty groups don&#8217;t sit back and wait for Dems to make their claims. Thought leaders and communicators on the right need to step up and provide year round, all years, access to all the arguments in an organized manner. Would be far more productive for elections than another ten or 20 million in wasteful tv ads.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an example to show how history is buried under lies &#8212; Bush&#8217;s tax reforms dramatically shifted the tax burden away from the middle class and on to the highest earners.  You have to search long and hard to find anything about that by google search. Even a lot of conservatives are surprised to hear that (demonstrating the power of Dem lies, message discipline and a news media propaganda echo).</p>
<p>Example 2 &#8212; our current inflation is due to a whole host of bad Democrat policies. Lots and lots. Republican politicians have been pathetically awful at pointing out most of them. They seem content to simply blame Biden because he is prez, gas prices are high, and Dems spent a bunch. This is a huge, missed opportunity. So much more:</p>
<p>&#8212; lockdowns (lots of horrible policies, lots of ways they damaged economy and ultimately contributed to inflation)<br />
&#8212; vaxx mandates (reduced labor force significantly at the margin)<br />
&#8212; paying people not to work [this was huge. Can&#8217;t be overemphasized]<br />
&#8212; BLM riots and destruction<br />
&#8212; out of control crime keeping people from returning to work<br />
&#8212; Supply chain idiocy: a) Cal Democrats outlawed trucks over ten years old. b) local Democrats&#8217; law limited container stacks in port to only two high instead of the normal six. Reduced port capacity by 2/3. Huge part of supply chain problem. c) instead of leaning on local and state Dems to fix issues, Biden simply required waiting ships to move farther from shore to anchor so not as visible. This should have been hammered home because it is a perfect example of Biden/Dem idiocy and total focus on spin. d) Los Angeles rail yards were crime central. Check the photos. The unwillingness of lefty Dems in LA to provide police, arrest thieves and prosecute them caused massive theft and vandalism of rail cars.</p>
<p>Conservatives/libertarians should relentlessy hammer home that all the Dem idiocy at all levels worked to wreck the economy, raise prices and hurt all Americans regardless of whether they live in a blue or red area.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2022 20:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Art Deco:

All the hype about Hillary&#039;s having Parkinson&#039;s and all sorts of things like that was wrong, and it was obviously wrong at the time.  It&#039;s now 6 years later and she&#039;s still going quite strong.  I wrote a few posts about Hillary&#039;s health back when she was running, but I can&#039;t find them now, but my point was that the evidence for anything serious going on with her was poor.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art Deco:</p>
<p>All the hype about Hillary&#8217;s having Parkinson&#8217;s and all sorts of things like that was wrong, and it was obviously wrong at the time.  It&#8217;s now 6 years later and she&#8217;s still going quite strong.  I wrote a few posts about Hillary&#8217;s health back when she was running, but I can&#8217;t find them now, but my point was that the evidence for anything serious going on with her was poor.</p>
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