Comments on: The left needs the black vote

By: GRA

GRA — Sun, 30 Oct 2022 16:38:10 +0000

Dems for decades and decades rely on playing a simple, almost elementary school-esque, playbook. It fools the political normies and suckers. Just paint your opponents as mean, bigoted, sexist and racist while calling them Nazis, fascists and extremists.

By: Richard Aubrey

Richard Aubrey — Sun, 30 Oct 2022 11:55:19 +0000

LeClerc
To the extent blacks have, metaphorically, kitchen tables, kitchen table issues will be important to them.
Now, you can’t hardly have a place to stay which doesn’t include a table, so I’m speaking in terms of having sufficient stability that the very basics are covered and the next level of importance is up for grabs. If you don’t have a car, the price of gasoline isn’t important. If you do…. If you’re not getting rent subsidies, the cost of housing is important. If you have a job, real wages versus prices are on your mind.
Groceries.
To the extent blacks approach the lower middle class or the upper lower class, their concerns will divulge from what the dems are promising–more muggers on your block!! that will show he wypipo!!–and move toward what the republicans are supposed to be promoting.
Which will drive the SJW nuts.

By: LeClerc

LeClerc — Sat, 29 Oct 2022 16:14:00 +0000

Pat Moynihan had it right 57 years ago. The same disaster holds today.

An enormous number of black women are “married” to the (democrat) government. Black men (who at one time were bread winners) are out on the street getting either nowhere or getting in trouble.

https://www.dol.gov/general/aboutdol/history/webid-moynihan

By: mkent

mkent — Sat, 29 Oct 2022 06:19:29 +0000

“If the black vote started to split 50/50 between GOP and Dems, it would make Republicans more competitive in urban areas but they’d still probably be dominated by Democrats.”

If the black vote were split 50/50, the direct result is that Wisconsin, Michigan, Georgia, North Carolina*, and probably Pennsylvania would swing into the solidly GOP column. The Democrats might very well still control the urban areas, but the statewide votes in those states for governor, senator, and the electoral college would be GOP, giving the GOP presumptive control of the White House and the Senate for quite a while.

There would be knock-on effects, however. One of those is that GOP control of the statewide offices in those states would also reduce the fraud there, compounding the effect. Witness how DeSantis has been able to clean-up Florida substantially in his four years in office there. And the urban areas are concentrated enough that a 50 / 50 black vote would, though perhaps not give control of urban area to Republicans, elect enough Republicans that the wholesale vote fraud would be much more difficult to pull off. Vote fraud on the scale we are seeing requires almost top to bottom control by the Democrats to pull off repeatedly.

Not that I think 50 / 50 is going to happen any time soon, but if it did, it would be an atom bomb in American politics.

*Let’s not forget the rural blacks. Their votes in North Carolina and parts of Georgia keep the Democrats competitive in those states. It’s not just Atlanta.

By: SR

SR — Sat, 29 Oct 2022 01:13:29 +0000

One must also consider the use of supposedly black issues–“defund the police”; “Jim Crow 2.0” voter suppression–to shame white voters into sticking with dysfunctional Democratic candidates. Supposedly black issues are the tail that wags the Democratic dog.

By: neo

neo — Sat, 29 Oct 2022 00:18:31 +0000

Lee:

I remember James very well from the 2020 election. He was a great candidate, and before the mail-in ballots were counted, he was winning the race. Then when they were counted after the in-person votes, his opponent pulled ahead by a tiny margin. The difference was the Detroit vote, and for a little while James alleged fraud, but then conceded. The Democrats’ victory may very well have been the result of fraud, or it may just have been the heavily Democratic Detroit vote.

By: neo

neo — Sat, 29 Oct 2022 00:05:58 +0000

MBunge:

No one’s obsessed with anything about black votes. What an absurd thing to say. However, this happens to be a post about black voters and their importance to the Democrats. That’s why the topic is in fact black voters and their importance to the Democrats.

I write posts on thousands and thousands of topics. Once in a blue moon I write a post about black voters. This is one of them.

The black vote is substantial. There have been few elections in recent years, except in heavily blue or red states, that are decided by a very large margin. The black vote tends to go about 90% to Democrats. It is a huge factor in certain swing states, as I have documented in this post, illustrating with numbers. You seem to either truly not understand or refuse to understand, and would rather make bizarre accusations.

The Hispanic vote is an even bigger factor, and I have written many posts about that, too. However, although there are more Hispanic than black voters, they don’t vote in as solid a bloc as black voters do. That was true even before the last couple of election cycles, where Hispanic voters have been turning more to the GOP side than before.

By: Geoffrey Britain

Geoffrey Britain — Fri, 28 Oct 2022 23:58:36 +0000

Blacks are leaving the democrat party in slowly increasing numbers.

By: om

om — Fri, 28 Oct 2022 22:59:19 +0000

“obsessed with the black voters”

aka “la, la, la la, la..I can’t hear you.”

By: MBunge

MBunge — Fri, 28 Oct 2022 22:43:56 +0000

“You refuse to understand the point, for some reason, but I think it’s been sufficiently explained”

What, that you and others are obsessed with the black vote for Democrats?

My point is just that the black vote is HEAVILY concentrated in relatively few parts of the country. That somewhat dilutes its importance by making it extremely important in a smaller number of political contests and significantly less important in a greater number of them.

If the black vote started to split 50/50 between GOP and Dems, it would make Republicans more competitive in urban areas but they’d still probably be dominated by Democrats. It would likely help the GOP Presidential candidate but not so much in most states that Democrats couldn’t still compete.

The black vote just isn’t big enough, and that’s going to become politically explosive if the Hispanic-American population does hit demographic projections of over 30% of the country by 2050. The things Democrats have to do to maintain abnormally high levels of black support are going to complicate efforts to win Latino votes.

Mike