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		By: Cappy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/10/25/whats-even-better-than-election-denial/#comment-2650064</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cappy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2022 13:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is the saddest hypothetical story I&#039;ve ever heard.]]></description>
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		By: Cicero		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/10/25/whats-even-better-than-election-denial/#comment-2649938</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cicero]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2022 18:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hillary is insatiably greedy and an outrageous liar. That half of the US believes her, voted for her, says to me the Union is lost and we should go our separate ways.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary is insatiably greedy and an outrageous liar. That half of the US believes her, voted for her, says to me the Union is lost and we should go our separate ways.</p>
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		By: Don		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/10/25/whats-even-better-than-election-denial/#comment-2649936</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2022 18:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The whole Russia!Russia!Russia! thing started as Clinton&#039;s effort to meddle in the 2016 election, and continued as a deep state coup against Trump (and against American voters). 

Everyone who pushed Russia!Russia!Russia! in media, government or tech was, at minimum, an election denier. But really, much worse.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole Russia!Russia!Russia! thing started as Clinton&#8217;s effort to meddle in the 2016 election, and continued as a deep state coup against Trump (and against American voters). </p>
<p>Everyone who pushed Russia!Russia!Russia! in media, government or tech was, at minimum, an election denier. But really, much worse.</p>
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		By: Jester Naybor		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/10/25/whats-even-better-than-election-denial/#comment-2649870</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jester Naybor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2022 11:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When they talk about &quot;saving democracy&quot;, it is enlightening to consider what the Left defines that as:

&#062;  All must be able to participate in voting, regardless of citizenship or criminal record.

&#062;  None can be &quot;inconvenienced&quot; by safeguards that would assure ballot integrity.

&#062;  Once the vote is taken, &lt;strong&gt;all must submit to the &quot;collective will&quot; as The One True Way - it has been decided!&lt;/strong&gt;

What is forgotten in all that, is this:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.-- &lt;strong&gt;That to secure these rights,&lt;/strong&gt; Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their &lt;strong&gt;just&lt;/strong&gt; powers from the consent of the governed, &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not just any powers that sound good to us, but just powers ... powers that do not work against the reason government is instituted:  to secure these rights.

&lt;strong&gt;If our rights are unalienable, they are beyond the reach of a majority vote ... let alone the vote of a majority influenced, manipulated by, and in submission to an elite few who Know Better<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />, that see the rest of us as &quot;infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals&quot; as C. S. Lewis described the viewpoint of the moral busybody.&lt;/strong&gt;

And if our rights our unalienable, they are to be limited or restricted ONLY when their exercise poses a clear, present and significant threat to the unalienable rights of others,

Democracy is only a tool, and a tool that can be misused.

Liberty is the objective.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When they talk about &#8220;saving democracy&#8221;, it is enlightening to consider what the Left defines that as:</p>
<p>&gt;  All must be able to participate in voting, regardless of citizenship or criminal record.</p>
<p>&gt;  None can be &#8220;inconvenienced&#8221; by safeguards that would assure ballot integrity.</p>
<p>&gt;  Once the vote is taken, <strong>all must submit to the &#8220;collective will&#8221; as The One True Way &#8211; it has been decided!</strong></p>
<p>What is forgotten in all that, is this:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.&#8211; <strong>That to secure these rights,</strong> Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their <strong>just</strong> powers from the consent of the governed, </em></p></blockquote>
<p>Not just any powers that sound good to us, but just powers &#8230; powers that do not work against the reason government is instituted:  to secure these rights.</p>
<p><strong>If our rights are unalienable, they are beyond the reach of a majority vote &#8230; let alone the vote of a majority influenced, manipulated by, and in submission to an elite few who Know Better™, that see the rest of us as &#8220;infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals&#8221; as C. S. Lewis described the viewpoint of the moral busybody.</strong></p>
<p>And if our rights our unalienable, they are to be limited or restricted ONLY when their exercise poses a clear, present and significant threat to the unalienable rights of others,</p>
<p>Democracy is only a tool, and a tool that can be misused.</p>
<p>Liberty is the objective.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/10/25/whats-even-better-than-election-denial/#comment-2649855</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2022 07:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In re “If You Liked Big Brother, Meet Google’s Big MUM” -- serendipity strikes again.
Google seems to be engaged in a coup de ta.*

https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2022/10/25/google-is-trying-to-sway-the-election-by-suppressing-gop-email-and-search-results-again-n505710

&lt;blockquote&gt;We previously looked at a report showing that GOP fundraising emails were being immediately directed to Gmail users’ spam folders at a vastly more frequent rate than those of Democrats. You can read what you like into that news since everyone seems to have issues with their spam folders in Gmail. But another substantial brick was set in this wall following an investigation from mrcNewsBusters that found disturbingly similar results in the search returns from three major browsers provided to users looking for information about several upcoming critical midterm Senate races.  NewsBusters evaluated the search returns from Google, Bing, and DuckDuckGo and the disparity was stark. Google buried search returns seeking information about Republican Senate candidates while copiously highlighting the campaign material from their Democratic opponents. This requires an immediate investigation, but &lt;b&gt;thus far Google is remaining mum&lt;/b&gt; on the subject and will not even comment on the question.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t think Jazz intended a pun there, as he doesn&#039;t reference Greenfield&#039;s post.
RTWT -- the stats are infuriating.
Don&#039;t use Google for your internet searches.

*It&#039;s a Democrat variant of a coup d’état.
https://www.thenewneo.com/2022/10/24/the-sins-of-the-father-january-6th-and-the-reffitt-case/#comment-2649720]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In re “If You Liked Big Brother, Meet Google’s Big MUM” &#8212; serendipity strikes again.<br />
Google seems to be engaged in a coup de ta.*</p>
<p><a href="https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2022/10/25/google-is-trying-to-sway-the-election-by-suppressing-gop-email-and-search-results-again-n505710" rel="nofollow ugc">https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2022/10/25/google-is-trying-to-sway-the-election-by-suppressing-gop-email-and-search-results-again-n505710</a></p>
<blockquote><p>We previously looked at a report showing that GOP fundraising emails were being immediately directed to Gmail users’ spam folders at a vastly more frequent rate than those of Democrats. You can read what you like into that news since everyone seems to have issues with their spam folders in Gmail. But another substantial brick was set in this wall following an investigation from mrcNewsBusters that found disturbingly similar results in the search returns from three major browsers provided to users looking for information about several upcoming critical midterm Senate races.  NewsBusters evaluated the search returns from Google, Bing, and DuckDuckGo and the disparity was stark. Google buried search returns seeking information about Republican Senate candidates while copiously highlighting the campaign material from their Democratic opponents. This requires an immediate investigation, but <b>thus far Google is remaining mum</b> on the subject and will not even comment on the question.
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<p>I don&#8217;t think Jazz intended a pun there, as he doesn&#8217;t reference Greenfield&#8217;s post.<br />
RTWT &#8212; the stats are infuriating.<br />
Don&#8217;t use Google for your internet searches.</p>
<p>*It&#8217;s a Democrat variant of a coup d’état.<br />
<a href="https://www.thenewneo.com/2022/10/24/the-sins-of-the-father-january-6th-and-the-reffitt-case/#comment-2649720" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.thenewneo.com/2022/10/24/the-sins-of-the-father-january-6th-and-the-reffitt-case/#comment-2649720</a></p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/10/25/whats-even-better-than-election-denial/#comment-2649851</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2022 06:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Apropos the conversation - David Harsanyi counts the ways.

https://thefederalist.com/2022/10/25/democrats-the-only-way-to-save-democracy-is-one-party-rule/

&lt;blockquote&gt;At this point, it would save everyone time if Democrats could simply point to a policy agenda item that isn’t going to save democracy — if such a thing exists.
&lt;b&gt;If Republicans vote, they are killing democracy. If they don’t vote, they are killing democracy. The only way to “save democracy,” writes The Washington Post’s Max Boot, is to empower one-party rule — a position that probably sounds counterintuitive to anyone with a middle-school education.&lt;/b&gt; “Now you need to vote to literally save democracy again,” contends President Joe Biden, or we will lose our “fundamental rights and freedoms like the right to choose, the right to privacy, the right to vote — our very democracy.”

Chilling stuff. But it doesn’t end there. You will remember that by failing to “reform” the filibuster, which would entail authorizing the thinnest of fleeting majorities to shove through massive generational “reforms” without any national consensus or debate, we are also killing democracy. This has been the position not only of left-wing pundits and the New York Times editorial board, but also senators tasked with defending their institution. I wonder if they will support this democracy-saving fix next session, as well?
...
Just last night, Hillary Clinton, one of numerous prominent Democrats who wouldn’t accept the legitimacy of the 2016 presidential election, claimed that “right-wing extremists already have a plan to literally steal the next presidential election.” &lt;b&gt;This is the kind of preemptive election denialism Democrats have been engaged in for nearly two decades. Democrats don’t lose elections; they are victims &lt;/b&gt;of gerrymandering or voter suppression or “structural” problems or too much free speech or Fox News or Russian gremlins.
...
Democrats, who have spent years delegitimizing the Supreme Court and rule of law, undermining legislative norms, cheering on unprecedented and blatant executive abuses, and using the DOJ to target their political enemies, among other “democracy”-destroying behaviors, do not occupy any high moral ground. And while “democracy” was once just a transparently silly euphemism for “stuff we want,” it has since evolved into a rhetorical device that denotes a decisively illiberal mindset.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apropos the conversation &#8211; David Harsanyi counts the ways.</p>
<p><a href="https://thefederalist.com/2022/10/25/democrats-the-only-way-to-save-democracy-is-one-party-rule/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://thefederalist.com/2022/10/25/democrats-the-only-way-to-save-democracy-is-one-party-rule/</a></p>
<blockquote><p>At this point, it would save everyone time if Democrats could simply point to a policy agenda item that isn’t going to save democracy — if such a thing exists.<br />
<b>If Republicans vote, they are killing democracy. If they don’t vote, they are killing democracy. The only way to “save democracy,” writes The Washington Post’s Max Boot, is to empower one-party rule — a position that probably sounds counterintuitive to anyone with a middle-school education.</b> “Now you need to vote to literally save democracy again,” contends President Joe Biden, or we will lose our “fundamental rights and freedoms like the right to choose, the right to privacy, the right to vote — our very democracy.”</p>
<p>Chilling stuff. But it doesn’t end there. You will remember that by failing to “reform” the filibuster, which would entail authorizing the thinnest of fleeting majorities to shove through massive generational “reforms” without any national consensus or debate, we are also killing democracy. This has been the position not only of left-wing pundits and the New York Times editorial board, but also senators tasked with defending their institution. I wonder if they will support this democracy-saving fix next session, as well?<br />
&#8230;<br />
Just last night, Hillary Clinton, one of numerous prominent Democrats who wouldn’t accept the legitimacy of the 2016 presidential election, claimed that “right-wing extremists already have a plan to literally steal the next presidential election.” <b>This is the kind of preemptive election denialism Democrats have been engaged in for nearly two decades. Democrats don’t lose elections; they are victims </b>of gerrymandering or voter suppression or “structural” problems or too much free speech or Fox News or Russian gremlins.<br />
&#8230;<br />
Democrats, who have spent years delegitimizing the Supreme Court and rule of law, undermining legislative norms, cheering on unprecedented and blatant executive abuses, and using the DOJ to target their political enemies, among other “democracy”-destroying behaviors, do not occupy any high moral ground. And while “democracy” was once just a transparently silly euphemism for “stuff we want,” it has since evolved into a rhetorical device that denotes a decisively illiberal mindset.
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/10/25/whats-even-better-than-election-denial/#comment-2649849</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2022 06:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The other serendipitous thing was this other link Barry posted on the Open Thread.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/19027/google-mum
“If You Liked Big Brother, Meet Google’s Big MUM” 

Daniel Greenfield illuminates how the Search algorithm is rigged to produce Google&#039;s desired results rather than actually, you know, searching the internet for information YOU want to have.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Google first unleashed MUM to fight what it considered COVID &quot;misinformation&quot; by making sure that everyone saw &quot;high quality and timely information from trusted health authorities like the World Health Organization&quot;. &lt;b&gt;By reducing the number of sources to only those that agree with its agenda, Google is able to deliver fast results while getting rid of different points of view.&lt;/b&gt;

Google long ago ceased being a way to find different answers and its search results are deliberately repetitive. Search is an illusion. The user thinks that he&#039;s browsing the internet when he&#039;s actually spinning his wheels in Google&#039;s walled garden.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I liked their neologism “prebunking” aka anticipatory debunking -- although not what they are doing with it.
&lt;blockquote&gt;
Jigsaw, the company’s most explicitly political arm, is researching what it calls “prebunking” or attacking views it opposes before they can even gain traction.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other serendipitous thing was this other link Barry posted on the Open Thread.<br />
<a href="https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/19027/google-mum" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/19027/google-mum</a><br />
“If You Liked Big Brother, Meet Google’s Big MUM” </p>
<p>Daniel Greenfield illuminates how the Search algorithm is rigged to produce Google&#8217;s desired results rather than actually, you know, searching the internet for information YOU want to have.</p>
<blockquote><p>Google first unleashed MUM to fight what it considered COVID &#8220;misinformation&#8221; by making sure that everyone saw &#8220;high quality and timely information from trusted health authorities like the World Health Organization&#8221;. <b>By reducing the number of sources to only those that agree with its agenda, Google is able to deliver fast results while getting rid of different points of view.</b></p>
<p>Google long ago ceased being a way to find different answers and its search results are deliberately repetitive. Search is an illusion. The user thinks that he&#8217;s browsing the internet when he&#8217;s actually spinning his wheels in Google&#8217;s walled garden.
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<p>I liked their neologism “prebunking” aka anticipatory debunking &#8212; although not what they are doing with it.</p>
<blockquote><p>
Jigsaw, the company’s most explicitly political arm, is researching what it calls “prebunking” or attacking views it opposes before they can even gain traction.</p></blockquote>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2022 05:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Barry &#062; &quot;Susan Sarandon BRUTALLY honest about who Democrats really are right now&quot;

Lots of serendipity tonight - look at your own comment about the Boxheimer Documents.

https://www.thenewneo.com/2022/10/25/open-thread-10-25-22/#comment-2649744

&lt;blockquote&gt;The documents were one of many wasted opportunities to face Nazi evil head on and squash it. Although some Germans instantly recognized the truth, too many considered these documents an aberration. These were the same people who later claimed it impossible to foresee the depths of Nazi evil. They were “misled.”

Don’t label extremism and violence as foolishness or mistakes. &lt;b&gt;When someone tells us who they are, believe it.&lt;/b&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Barry &gt; &#8220;Susan Sarandon BRUTALLY honest about who Democrats really are right now&#8221;</p>
<p>Lots of serendipity tonight &#8211; look at your own comment about the Boxheimer Documents.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.thenewneo.com/2022/10/25/open-thread-10-25-22/#comment-2649744" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.thenewneo.com/2022/10/25/open-thread-10-25-22/#comment-2649744</a></p>
<blockquote><p>The documents were one of many wasted opportunities to face Nazi evil head on and squash it. Although some Germans instantly recognized the truth, too many considered these documents an aberration. These were the same people who later claimed it impossible to foresee the depths of Nazi evil. They were “misled.”</p>
<p>Don’t label extremism and violence as foolishness or mistakes. <b>When someone tells us who they are, believe it.</b>
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		By: MollyG		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MollyG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2022 02:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hillary Clinton. Such a toxic, destructive demagogue.]]></description>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2022 23:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It looks like Democrats have gone through denial and anger to acceptance that they are about to be clobbered in the mid-terms.

Which is not to say they &quot;accept&quot; the coming results, but they recognize those results are coming and they are now laying the groundwork to deny them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like Democrats have gone through denial and anger to acceptance that they are about to be clobbered in the mid-terms.</p>
<p>Which is not to say they &#8220;accept&#8221; the coming results, but they recognize those results are coming and they are now laying the groundwork to deny them.</p>
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