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		By: TsAtUp		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/09/20/marthas-vineyard-demographics/#comment-2644574</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2022 21:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[743238 2726Black Ops Zombies? [...]some individuals still have not played this game. It?s hard to imagine or believe, but yes, some individuals are missing out on all of the fun.[...]? 765080]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>743238 2726Black Ops Zombies? [&#8230;]some individuals still have not played this game. It?s hard to imagine or believe, but yes, some individuals are missing out on all of the fun.[&#8230;]? 765080</p>
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		By: n.n		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2022 14:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The states do it.  The federal government does it.  The aliens nations started it.  50 Shades of Apartheid.  That said, the Vineyard becomes a border property through the democratic/dictatorial model.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The states do it.  The federal government does it.  The aliens nations started it.  50 Shades of Apartheid.  That said, the Vineyard becomes a border property through the democratic/dictatorial model.</p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/09/20/marthas-vineyard-demographics/#comment-2644223</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2022 03:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;It actually does have a history of welcoming black people, as long as they can afford it.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;ve never been, but my impression, and I think the impression most people have, is not that it is a racist place, but that it is a classist place. Opera singer Leontyne Price would be welcome there, but rapper Cardi B.? Cardi B.&#039;s net worth is almost certainly greater than Ms. Price&#039;s.

The point I heard most people making about Nantucket tossing out the Venezuelans that DeSantis sent was that many of the residents (especially the part time residents) of Martha&#039;s Vineyard talk a big game about welcoming poor people from third world countries, but they have no desire to live anywhere near poor people from third world countries. It wasn&#039;t a race, or ethnic thing. It was about their being poor.

Again, never been, but I get the impression most of the people who summer on Martha&#039;s Vineyard pay great expense to avoid interacting with people who cannot pay great expense to summer on Martha&#039;s Vineyard.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;It actually does have a history of welcoming black people, as long as they can afford it.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never been, but my impression, and I think the impression most people have, is not that it is a racist place, but that it is a classist place. Opera singer Leontyne Price would be welcome there, but rapper Cardi B.? Cardi B.&#8217;s net worth is almost certainly greater than Ms. Price&#8217;s.</p>
<p>The point I heard most people making about Nantucket tossing out the Venezuelans that DeSantis sent was that many of the residents (especially the part time residents) of Martha&#8217;s Vineyard talk a big game about welcoming poor people from third world countries, but they have no desire to live anywhere near poor people from third world countries. It wasn&#8217;t a race, or ethnic thing. It was about their being poor.</p>
<p>Again, never been, but I get the impression most of the people who summer on Martha&#8217;s Vineyard pay great expense to avoid interacting with people who cannot pay great expense to summer on Martha&#8217;s Vineyard.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/09/20/marthas-vineyard-demographics/#comment-2644146</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2022 19:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Frederick:

My point is that, &lt;i&gt;in reality&lt;/i&gt;, Martha&#039;s Vineyard has more black people than is typical of non-urban New England in Massachusetts and north of Massachusetts.  It actually does have a history of welcoming black people, as long as they can afford it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frederick:</p>
<p>My point is that, <i>in reality</i>, Martha&#8217;s Vineyard has more black people than is typical of non-urban New England in Massachusetts and north of Massachusetts.  It actually does have a history of welcoming black people, as long as they can afford it.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/09/20/marthas-vineyard-demographics/#comment-2644144</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2022 19:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I Callahan:

No, it proves OUR point. :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Callahan:</p>
<p>No, it proves OUR point. 🙂</p>
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		By: I Callahan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/09/20/marthas-vineyard-demographics/#comment-2644123</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[I Callahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2022 16:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo,

Wow!  I didn’t even notice that!

Guess that only proves my point…

:)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo,</p>
<p>Wow!  I didn’t even notice that!</p>
<p>Guess that only proves my point…</p>
<p>🙂</p>
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		By: Frederick		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frederick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2022 15:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@neo: Just saying that the grace you seek for Martha&#039;s Vineyard is denied to Salt Lake City (3% black), Madison, WI. (7% black), Boise (2% black), Seattle (6% black), or Portland, OR (6% black). All of these places are described as inexcusably white by any humanities professor, or indeed by the kind of people who spend time in Martha&#039;s Vineyard.

If Martha&#039;s Vineyard doesn&#039;t count as a white enclave, nowhere does. And perhaps that&#039;s much the better way to view it. But until the powers that be stop using racial bean counting to justify social meddling, Martha&#039;s Vineyard counts as as a white enclave.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@neo: Just saying that the grace you seek for Martha&#8217;s Vineyard is denied to Salt Lake City (3% black), Madison, WI. (7% black), Boise (2% black), Seattle (6% black), or Portland, OR (6% black). All of these places are described as inexcusably white by any humanities professor, or indeed by the kind of people who spend time in Martha&#8217;s Vineyard.</p>
<p>If Martha&#8217;s Vineyard doesn&#8217;t count as a white enclave, nowhere does. And perhaps that&#8217;s much the better way to view it. But until the powers that be stop using racial bean counting to justify social meddling, Martha&#8217;s Vineyard counts as as a white enclave.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2022 14:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Some people are idiots, too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people are idiots, too.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/09/20/marthas-vineyard-demographics/#comment-2644097</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2022 14:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Frederick:

Martha&#039;s Vineyard is in Massachusetts, and is not Boston and not urban.  For non-Boston non-urban Massachusetts - or any part of New England north of Massachusetts - 4% is pretty high.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frederick:</p>
<p>Martha&#8217;s Vineyard is in Massachusetts, and is not Boston and not urban.  For non-Boston non-urban Massachusetts &#8211; or any part of New England north of Massachusetts &#8211; 4% is pretty high.</p>
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		By: Frederick		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frederick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2022 14:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Only 4% black sounds pretty white to me. Places I&#039;ve heard described as white include Wisconsin (6% black), Seattle (7% black), and Utah (3% black).

&quot;Whiter than Wisconsin but less white than Utah&quot; sounds like a very accurate description of Martha&#039;s Vineyard. Far whiter than Texas or Florida or any other* Southern state. If we were talking about Utah or Wisconsin the media would definitely being saying it was white.

*Some people don&#039;t count Texas or Florida in the South.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only 4% black sounds pretty white to me. Places I&#8217;ve heard described as white include Wisconsin (6% black), Seattle (7% black), and Utah (3% black).</p>
<p>&#8220;Whiter than Wisconsin but less white than Utah&#8221; sounds like a very accurate description of Martha&#8217;s Vineyard. Far whiter than Texas or Florida or any other* Southern state. If we were talking about Utah or Wisconsin the media would definitely being saying it was white.</p>
<p>*Some people don&#8217;t count Texas or Florida in the South.</p>
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