Some people say “warned,” some say “informed” or “described” or “gave details of” or any number of other phrases.

And many people believe the tactics would have worked, although many do not. You are in the latter camp. It doesn’t mean you’re right, and as I said before we’ll never know for sure.

There is nothing dishonest about the term. The people who have used it specified what they wanted done and believed it was possible to do it.

You may indeed disagree, but that has nothing to do with whether they lied or were dishonest.

Metaphor alert!!! If I am standing in the street, watching my house burn, hearing the fire engines coming and somebody comes up to me and says, “Hey, buddy. Your house is on fire.”

He is not “warning” me. “warn” implies three items: 1. I didn’t already know it. 2. There’s something I might be able to do about it, or, 3, I might, given the warning, be able to get out of the way of whatever it is.

IMO, the term “warn” is used in this context to dishonestly imply number two. Once the Allies learned about the Holocaust–which is to say were “warned”–there is, implicitly, something they should have done. That’s the purpose of using the verb, “to warn”. To dishonestly convince the unwary that the Allies deliberately avoided doing something–always unspecified or if specified, impossible–to end the Holocaust sooner than they did. For nefarious reasons, is left unsaid but deliberately implied.

The discussion(s) above have covered the practical issues, like timing and military concerns. My concern here is the deliberate and dishonest use of the term “warn”.

No, the refusal of countries to take Jews had nothing to do with Hitler’s Final Solution decision. For one thing, the number of Jews in Germany was very very small by that time because there weren’t that many to begin with (less than 1% of the population) and 2/3 had already emigrated during the 1930s, before the Final Solution. Most of the Jews killed were in other European countries, with Poland leading the way. Hitler planned to kill all the Jews in the world, period. If all Jews had been allowed into the US it would have been fine because the Nazis never conquered the US, but most Jews DID take refuge in other European countries, thinking they were safe (Anne Frank’s family is a good example, they originally were from Germany). The Nazis took over each country quite quickly and the Jews were trapped in the European countries where they had taken refuge, in addition to the Jews who already had lived in those countries.

Just to take one example, the French – many of whom collaborated with the Nazis – surrendered Jews who had taken refuge there from other countries first.

See this:

During the interwar period, France was one of the more liberal countries in welcoming Jewish immigrants, many of them from eastern Europe. After World War I, thousands of Jews viewed France as a European land of equality and opportunity and helped to make its capital, Paris, a thriving center of Jewish cultural life.

In the 1930s, however, unnerved by a significant influx of refugees fleeing Nazi Germany and the Spanish Civil War, the leaders of the French Third Republic (1870-1940) began to reassess this “open-door” policy. By 1939 French authorities had imposed strict limitations on immigration and set up a number of internment and detention camps for refugees, such as Gurs and Rivesaltes, in southern France.

When the Third Republic collapsed under German attack in the early summer of 1940, there were approximately 350,000 Jews in France. Less than half of them were French citizens. Many of these individuals were refugees who had fled Nazi persecution in the Third Reich; Jews and other endangered persons fleeing oppression in German-occupied Belgium, Luxembourg, and the Netherlands soon joined them in the summer of 1940.

Later, the collaborationist government helped the round ups, but:

A significant percentage of these victims were foreign or stateless Jews, sacrificed by the Vichy government in a vain attempt to spare France’s indigenous Jewish population. The final destination of these deportees was Auschwitz, where the SS murdered the vast majority by means of poison gas shortly after their arrival.

When and how the Allies learned about the Holocaust.