Comments on: What’s up with Lindsey Graham’s Senate abortion bill?

By: n.n

n.n — Mon, 19 Sep 2022 18:37:51 +0000

The 1/2 “fetal-baby” compromise. #NoJudgments #NoLabels

There is no mystery in sex and conception, a woman and man have four choices: sex or abstinence, contraception in depth, adoption (i.e. shared/shifted responsibility), or compassion (i.e. shared/personal responsibility, and an equal right to self-defense. The wicked solution is neither a good nor exclusive choice.

That said, 6 weeks to baby meets granny in state, if not in process. Generally, a civilized society has compelling cause to discourage the performance of human rites for social, redistributive, clinical, political, and fair weather causes.

Demos-cracy is aborted at the twilight fringe.

By: Jordan Rivers

Jordan Rivers — Mon, 19 Sep 2022 03:41:52 +0000

Jurisdictional and political concerns aside, the uproar over Graham’s bill seems indefensible.
So, women who want to kill their babies almost 4 months after they enabled those babies to start growing, need to be able to do so, or they are “handmaids”??
Don’t forget exceptions for rape, incest and life of the mother, or that 47 out of 50 European countries have the same or stricter standards.
Shame on these nasty women!!!

By: Jordan Rivers

Jordan Rivers — Mon, 19 Sep 2022 03:18:32 +0000

[…] I’m working to get Tiffany Smiley elected to the Senate and Vincent Cavalieri to Congress. Both far superior to Patty Murray and Susan Del Bene. What are others here doing?

I made a very large donation to Senator Ron Johnson, and a smaller one to another candidate. Also nominal donations to Laura Loomer and Marjorie Taylor Greene. Those women have more spunk than most male candidates!

By: JJ

JJ — Mon, 19 Sep 2022 03:17:29 +0000

Tommy Jay, you may be right.

It amazes me how hysterical the pro-abortion supporters can be. Witness the threats against the conservative justices and bombings of pregnancy care centers that offer an alternative to abortion. Madness.

It’s very possible that Graham’s bill could motivate them even more because so many pro-abortionists are, as you say, absolutists about their right to “choice.”

An answer to their claims that the GOP will ban all abortion, contraception, and gay marriage is needed. Tiffany Smiley’s answer has been that she is 100% pro-life but does not favor a national law on abortion. That seems like an acceptable but rather incomplete answer, but I’m no political strategist.

By: TommyJay

TommyJay — Mon, 19 Sep 2022 01:15:39 +0000

JJ,
It’s relatively clear to me that pushing the Graham bill before the election will do the opposite. That is, it will reinforce the Dem’s election claims about an authoritarian GOP. To many of us here, including myself, the abortion limits are reasonable. Although I think the federal law nature of it is unreasonable. However, a great many will see the bill’s abortion limits as unreasonable. They will see it as the GOP taking away their liberties.

By: M Smith

M Smith — Sun, 18 Sep 2022 23:38:21 +0000

Lindsey is a follower, not a leader. I guess he just doesn’t make great decisions on his own. If he’s playing some complicated game of 3-dimensional chess he’s not very good at it. If he really wants to blow the Republicans’ chances somebody really should have called him out beforehand. Democrats live for politics and Republicans don’t. Lyndon Johnson would have straightened out Lindsey Graham very quickly.

By: JJ

JJ — Sun, 18 Sep 2022 18:18:15 +0000

Expat, thanks for the link. It’s clear that Graham is trying to refuter the Democrat claims about GOP intentions. Will it work? We can only hope.

By: Aggie

Aggie — Sun, 18 Sep 2022 16:49:00 +0000

Nobody has said anything about timing. Why time the bill for debate and passage now, before mid-terms, when Republicans supposedly think they might gain control? What would be the downside to waiting on a bill that’s already doomed under the current majority/minority?

Therefore, the bill is salient as a mid-term election feature. It’s a platform plank. Accepting this, if Graham were interested in its reception amongst the electorate, why wouldn’t he be clarifying its intent for the voter’s benefit? Why not ensure a clear understanding of its intent to lock in voter’s sentiments?

Answer: It’s not for the voter’s benefit, and it’s not been made clear that it’s aligned to their interests.

By: IrishOtter49 (Roughcoat)

IrishOtter49 (Roughcoat) — Sun, 18 Sep 2022 13:49:12 +0000

I hate the Republican party. I hate the Democrat party way more. But I hate the Republican party plenty.

By: JohnTyler

JohnTyler — Sun, 18 Sep 2022 13:30:48 +0000

Re: Graham bill;

Just another in a long long long long line of stupid, dumb actions by republicans. The dumbpublicans are the world’s experts in engaging in political suicide.

The demokrats have to be pinching themselves wondering how their political opponents can be so inept, incompetent and stupid.
Are the dumbpublicans just clueless, or are they intentionally volunteering to be cannon fodder.
Honestly, it’s tough to tell.