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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/09/16/open-thread-9-16-22/#comment-2643662</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2022 13:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Linda S.  Good point. I&#039;ve wondered how they get those little, say, four-year-olds to do what&#039;s necessary to....act. So they&#039;re six years old.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linda S.  Good point. I&#8217;ve wondered how they get those little, say, four-year-olds to do what&#8217;s necessary to&#8230;.act. So they&#8217;re six years old.</p>
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		By: Linda S Fox		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/09/16/open-thread-9-16-22/#comment-2643598</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2022 18:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Many of the shortest actresses were child stars; at that point in their live, their short stature would be a plus.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of the shortest actresses were child stars; at that point in their live, their short stature would be a plus.</p>
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		By: TJ		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/09/16/open-thread-9-16-22/#comment-2643521</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2022 05:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Saturday was Constitution Day. Will it be the last one in our now deeply divided and thoroughly broken nation?

This piece at American Thinker goes a long way to count the costs being suffered.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/09/constitution_day_liberty_once_lost_may_be_lost_forever.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saturday was Constitution Day. Will it be the last one in our now deeply divided and thoroughly broken nation?</p>
<p>This piece at American Thinker goes a long way to count the costs being suffered.<br />
<a href="https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/09/constitution_day_liberty_once_lost_may_be_lost_forever.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/09/constitution_day_liberty_once_lost_may_be_lost_forever.html</a></p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2022 02:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: UNM and Tomi Lahren brouhaha

TJ:

I heard no buzz today at the cafe. Checking the web, I can&#039;t entirely figure out what went on. Some say that BIPOC people with tickets were denied entrance to the event. But it also sounds like the wokesters were gunning to run Lahren out regardless.

https://www.dailylobo.com/article/2022/09/students-of-color-denied-entry-at-turning-point-event-at-unm

https://www.reddit.com/r/Albuquerque/comments/xfzvyp/proud_of_you_unm_hundreds_of_unm_student_rallied/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: UNM and Tomi Lahren brouhaha</p>
<p>TJ:</p>
<p>I heard no buzz today at the cafe. Checking the web, I can&#8217;t entirely figure out what went on. Some say that BIPOC people with tickets were denied entrance to the event. But it also sounds like the wokesters were gunning to run Lahren out regardless.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.dailylobo.com/article/2022/09/students-of-color-denied-entry-at-turning-point-event-at-unm" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.dailylobo.com/article/2022/09/students-of-color-denied-entry-at-turning-point-event-at-unm</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/Albuquerque/comments/xfzvyp/proud_of_you_unm_hundreds_of_unm_student_rallied/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.reddit.com/r/Albuquerque/comments/xfzvyp/proud_of_you_unm_hundreds_of_unm_student_rallied/</a></p>
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		By: R2L		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/09/16/open-thread-9-16-22/#comment-2643456</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2022 01:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OBH:  Yeah, then they want exactly the same pay as a man who did not take the time off from work to have kids. :-/

And yet, something can be said for the abilities and talents required to maintain a home, rear very young children, and then get them through a few years of schooling until they are basically ready to (mostly) take care of themselves (with modest supervision).  Some recognition of that type of experience and how it can or could be applied to the world of paid work certainly seems justified by any competent and forward thinking male (or female) executive.  This can&#039;t apply for all jobs/ tasks women might have had prior to taking time off to raise children, but many jobs can be structured to:

1) be part time
2) use much of the &quot;work from home&quot; tech tools now available
3) explore or involve slower, longer term development of ideas, programs, plans, etc.  Perhaps research for proposals, new marketing approaches, analysis of data, editing others reports, critical reviews of other&#039;s work, etc. I.e., those important but not urgent things executives know they should address but never find the time. 
4) build upon the skills and experience the woman has already displayed during her earlier years of employment with a given firm, intended to both &quot;keep her hand&quot; in technically or procedurally with company methodologies and other advances to minimize loss of skills; and to provide opportunities for continued career growth during this period or upon returning to work full time.
5) I suspect many here could add a dozen more items to this listing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OBH:  Yeah, then they want exactly the same pay as a man who did not take the time off from work to have kids. :-/</p>
<p>And yet, something can be said for the abilities and talents required to maintain a home, rear very young children, and then get them through a few years of schooling until they are basically ready to (mostly) take care of themselves (with modest supervision).  Some recognition of that type of experience and how it can or could be applied to the world of paid work certainly seems justified by any competent and forward thinking male (or female) executive.  This can&#8217;t apply for all jobs/ tasks women might have had prior to taking time off to raise children, but many jobs can be structured to:</p>
<p>1) be part time<br />
2) use much of the &#8220;work from home&#8221; tech tools now available<br />
3) explore or involve slower, longer term development of ideas, programs, plans, etc.  Perhaps research for proposals, new marketing approaches, analysis of data, editing others reports, critical reviews of other&#8217;s work, etc. I.e., those important but not urgent things executives know they should address but never find the time.<br />
4) build upon the skills and experience the woman has already displayed during her earlier years of employment with a given firm, intended to both &#8220;keep her hand&#8221; in technically or procedurally with company methodologies and other advances to minimize loss of skills; and to provide opportunities for continued career growth during this period or upon returning to work full time.<br />
5) I suspect many here could add a dozen more items to this listing.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2022 04:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Back in New Orleans I got to know a young woman photographer who was short. Granted, she was attractive, but she really got around. 

Later she made her way to Cray Inc. in Boulder, Colorado and got involved with a top computer scientist.

I wondered if being a short attractive female wasn&#039;t a great card to play.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in New Orleans I got to know a young woman photographer who was short. Granted, she was attractive, but she really got around. </p>
<p>Later she made her way to Cray Inc. in Boulder, Colorado and got involved with a top computer scientist.</p>
<p>I wondered if being a short attractive female wasn&#8217;t a great card to play.</p>
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		By: ObloodyHell		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/09/16/open-thread-9-16-22/#comment-2643243</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ObloodyHell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2022 04:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[}}} &lt;i&gt;I pick up indications here and there randomly on the web that a lot of young women are absolutely ruthless about their requirements for height in a male. As with huxley’s list of sixes above, I get the feeling that there are some really cold-eyed young women out there. &lt;/i&gt;

As I noted earlier, height, while rarely commented on by women, is a major factor in their triage process. As I understand it, if you&#039;re a 5&#039;6 established surgeon making 300k a year, you better work hard on your social skills because you&#039;re going to really need them to attract women.

}}} &lt;i&gt;Maybe always have been, I don’t know. “Diamonds are a girl’s best friend.” But I have lived long enough to see that an economic disparity–wife earns significantly more than husband–is a more-than-random aspect of divorces. &lt;/i&gt;

Yes, my own suspicion on this is that women as a group (i.e., this does not necessarily apply to any woman reading this) cannot really wrap their heads around the notion of true equality. It&#039;s a pecking order, and you are either above them or below them. And most of them cannot respect a man who is below them. So &quot;equal pay&quot; is never a deal for men, because it means they can never have a woman who matches his financial status, in can only go downward, never upward.

}}} &lt;i&gt;So many women, although they would deny it, seem to feel in their guts that they should have the option of not holding a job, and staying at home with the children, at least for a few years.&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah, then they want exactly the same pay as a man who did not take the time off from work to have kids. :-/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>}}} <i>I pick up indications here and there randomly on the web that a lot of young women are absolutely ruthless about their requirements for height in a male. As with huxley’s list of sixes above, I get the feeling that there are some really cold-eyed young women out there. </i></p>
<p>As I noted earlier, height, while rarely commented on by women, is a major factor in their triage process. As I understand it, if you&#8217;re a 5&#8217;6 established surgeon making 300k a year, you better work hard on your social skills because you&#8217;re going to really need them to attract women.</p>
<p>}}} <i>Maybe always have been, I don’t know. “Diamonds are a girl’s best friend.” But I have lived long enough to see that an economic disparity–wife earns significantly more than husband–is a more-than-random aspect of divorces. </i></p>
<p>Yes, my own suspicion on this is that women as a group (i.e., this does not necessarily apply to any woman reading this) cannot really wrap their heads around the notion of true equality. It&#8217;s a pecking order, and you are either above them or below them. And most of them cannot respect a man who is below them. So &#8220;equal pay&#8221; is never a deal for men, because it means they can never have a woman who matches his financial status, in can only go downward, never upward.</p>
<p>}}} <i>So many women, although they would deny it, seem to feel in their guts that they should have the option of not holding a job, and staying at home with the children, at least for a few years.</i></p>
<p>Yeah, then they want exactly the same pay as a man who did not take the time off from work to have kids. :-/</p>
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		By: ObloodyHell		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2022 04:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[}}} &lt;i&gt;the 5’7 son of a dad who was 5’10 and a mom who was 5’0. I’m one of those rarities (at least on this blog) who is shorter than his father.&lt;/i&gt;

In your case, presumably, the height genes from your mother overrode the nutritional effects of better diet... :-D

Think of it this way, you were probably meant to be even shorter, but you got well fed. :-D]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>}}} <i>the 5’7 son of a dad who was 5’10 and a mom who was 5’0. I’m one of those rarities (at least on this blog) who is shorter than his father.</i></p>
<p>In your case, presumably, the height genes from your mother overrode the nutritional effects of better diet&#8230; 😀</p>
<p>Think of it this way, you were probably meant to be even shorter, but you got well fed. 😀</p>
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		By: ObloodyHell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ObloodyHell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2022 04:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[}}} &lt;i&gt;They’ve never forgiven us for such inheritance :)&lt;/i&gt;

Meh. Did they get good teeth? Good bones? Good health? 

Point out that there are some things that are much more important to inheritance than height. Esp. for women. Men (as I noted earlier above) less so.


I love tall women, but I would not reject a woman who was short for being short.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>}}} <i>They’ve never forgiven us for such inheritance 🙂</i></p>
<p>Meh. Did they get good teeth? Good bones? Good health? </p>
<p>Point out that there are some things that are much more important to inheritance than height. Esp. for women. Men (as I noted earlier above) less so.</p>
<p>I love tall women, but I would not reject a woman who was short for being short.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2022 03:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;No word yet from huxley?— aka, our man in Albuquerque — regarding the Talking Point USA event at the University of New Mexico which presented Tommi Lahren, who was mobbed and run off campus — while officials did next to nothing to secure non-Leftist freedom of speech….&lt;/i&gt;

TJ:

Couldn&#039;t say. I live my life, at home and cafe, a few blocks from UNM, but I missed this. I&#039;ll check into it.

UNM is pretty woke these days, even the Engineering Dept. Lately I keep getting invitations, sweetened with Free Pizza!,  to hear the latest Dean candidate and the candidates are mostly female. Like, you know, most engineers and programmers.

So far, the candidates are not advertising their pronouns in their CV or Bio. 

My return to academia is not exactly what I hoped.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>No word yet from huxley?— aka, our man in Albuquerque — regarding the Talking Point USA event at the University of New Mexico which presented Tommi Lahren, who was mobbed and run off campus — while officials did next to nothing to secure non-Leftist freedom of speech….</i></p>
<p>TJ:</p>
<p>Couldn&#8217;t say. I live my life, at home and cafe, a few blocks from UNM, but I missed this. I&#8217;ll check into it.</p>
<p>UNM is pretty woke these days, even the Engineering Dept. Lately I keep getting invitations, sweetened with Free Pizza!,  to hear the latest Dean candidate and the candidates are mostly female. Like, you know, most engineers and programmers.</p>
<p>So far, the candidates are not advertising their pronouns in their CV or Bio. </p>
<p>My return to academia is not exactly what I hoped.</p>
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