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		By: Miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/09/12/open-thread-9-12-22/#comment-2642575</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2022 15:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thats the time machine trumps uncle gof from tesla]]></description>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/09/12/open-thread-9-12-22/#comment-2642572</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2022 14:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[UFOs hiding in Mar A Lago!  Threatening &quot;our democracy&quot;<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />!  Nuclear secrets, I tell you (Wa Post).

Nevermind ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UFOs hiding in Mar A Lago!  Threatening &#8220;our democracy&#8221;™!  Nuclear secrets, I tell you (Wa Post).</p>
<p>Nevermind &#8230;</p>
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		By: Miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/09/12/open-thread-9-12-22/#comment-2642566</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2022 13:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[But the new 2016 version kills your soul]]></description>
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		By: David Foster		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Foster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2022 13:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[re Mining, a worthwhile piece on critical minerals: Control the Metal, Control the World

https://www.acruisingvoyage.com/p/control-the-metal-control-the-world

(The author is a new partner at the VC firm Andreessen Horowitz)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re Mining, a worthwhile piece on critical minerals: Control the Metal, Control the World</p>
<p><a href="https://www.acruisingvoyage.com/p/control-the-metal-control-the-world" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.acruisingvoyage.com/p/control-the-metal-control-the-world</a></p>
<p>(The author is a new partner at the VC firm Andreessen Horowitz)</p>
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		By: David Foster		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Foster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2022 13:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[re Covid and Vaccines, here is a biostatistician who analyzes both vaccine efficacy and side effects.  He seems to be an individual with a lot of intellectual integrity:

https://www.covid-datascience.com/

Don&#039;t miss his piece on how watching the original version of &#039;Ghostbusters&#039; can kill you...a conclusion one could easily arrive at using simplistic data-analysis methods:

https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/is-watching-the-1984-ghostbusters-movie-killing-people-a-statistician-s-perspective]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re Covid and Vaccines, here is a biostatistician who analyzes both vaccine efficacy and side effects.  He seems to be an individual with a lot of intellectual integrity:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.covid-datascience.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.covid-datascience.com/</a></p>
<p>Don&#8217;t miss his piece on how watching the original version of &#8216;Ghostbusters&#8217; can kill you&#8230;a conclusion one could easily arrive at using simplistic data-analysis methods:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/is-watching-the-1984-ghostbusters-movie-killing-people-a-statistician-s-perspective" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/is-watching-the-1984-ghostbusters-movie-killing-people-a-statistician-s-perspective</a></p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/09/12/open-thread-9-12-22/#comment-2642554</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2022 11:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#039;...calling the Electoral College “an accident waiting to happen.”...&#039;

Congressman Raskal and his like-minded colleagues might as well trash the Constitution while they&#039;re at it...
Oh, wait...

(But at least we KNOW their rationalization regarding the utterly MORAL necessity for stealing the 2020 election....)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;&#8230;calling the Electoral College “an accident waiting to happen.”&#8230;&#8217;</p>
<p>Congressman Raskal and his like-minded colleagues might as well trash the Constitution while they&#8217;re at it&#8230;<br />
Oh, wait&#8230;</p>
<p>(But at least we KNOW their rationalization regarding the utterly MORAL necessity for stealing the 2020 election&#8230;.)</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/09/12/open-thread-9-12-22/#comment-2642546</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2022 09:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Disappointing news for Snow on Pine:
https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/us-navy-says-all-ufo-videos-are-classified-and-wont-be-released]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disappointing news for Snow on Pine:<br />
<a href="https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/us-navy-says-all-ufo-videos-are-classified-and-wont-be-released" rel="nofollow ugc">https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/us-navy-says-all-ufo-videos-are-classified-and-wont-be-released</a></p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/09/12/open-thread-9-12-22/#comment-2642522</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2022 04:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ miguel &#062; &quot;his father headed a soviet front group, ips,&quot;

What&#039;s up with these &quot;constitutional law professors&quot; who have no respect for the Founding Document they presume to teach about?
PS Some law schools don&#039;t even require the students read The Constitution itself,  just the Supreme Court cases.
Raskin must have come from one of those.
&lt;blockquote&gt;
Congressman Jamie Raskin (D-MD) took issue on Friday with the constitutionally-mandated manner in which presidents are elected, calling the Electoral College “an accident waiting to happen.”

Raskin, who was a constitutional law professor prior to his time in Congress, told MSNBC host Chris Hayes that the system as a whole was “vulnerable” and that the Electoral College had allowed room for “strategic bad faith actors” like former President Donald Trump.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Is &quot;ips&quot; this one?
Independent Party, Seattle
from:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_organizations_historically_described_as_Communist_fronts_by_the_United_States_federal_government
1948 Attorney General&#039;s list &#038; 1961 HUAC guide

There are well over 100 organization names on those lists of Un-American Activists!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ miguel &gt; &#8220;his father headed a soviet front group, ips,&#8221;</p>
<p>What&#8217;s up with these &#8220;constitutional law professors&#8221; who have no respect for the Founding Document they presume to teach about?<br />
PS Some law schools don&#8217;t even require the students read The Constitution itself,  just the Supreme Court cases.<br />
Raskin must have come from one of those.</p>
<blockquote><p>
Congressman Jamie Raskin (D-MD) took issue on Friday with the constitutionally-mandated manner in which presidents are elected, calling the Electoral College “an accident waiting to happen.”</p>
<p>Raskin, who was a constitutional law professor prior to his time in Congress, told MSNBC host Chris Hayes that the system as a whole was “vulnerable” and that the Electoral College had allowed room for “strategic bad faith actors” like former President Donald Trump.</p></blockquote>
<p>Is &#8220;ips&#8221; this one?<br />
Independent Party, Seattle<br />
from:<br />
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_organizations_historically_described_as_Communist_fronts_by_the_United_States_federal_government" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_organizations_historically_described_as_Communist_fronts_by_the_United_States_federal_government</a><br />
1948 Attorney General&#8217;s list &amp; 1961 HUAC guide</p>
<p>There are well over 100 organization names on those lists of Un-American Activists!</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/09/12/open-thread-9-12-22/#comment-2642520</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2022 04:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ miguel &#062; https://redstate.com/bonchie/2022/09/12/desantis-under-fire-from-the-right-for-big-business-comments-n626139

Bonchie points out that the complaints are coming primarily from libertarians, who are resolutely refusing to see how many businesses are now functioning as enforcers of Democrat / Leftist policies.
They may be nominally on the right, but they are not conservatives, as the headline might seem to imply.

&lt;blockquote&gt;One writer from Reason  (Stephanie Slade) made a series of posts that were cited by other accounts to condemn DeSantis.
...
To be clear, the above paraphrases of DeSantis’ comments aren’t wholly accurate. The governor is not just, out of the blue, suggesting that large businesses aren’t private and don’t have First Amendment rights. What he’s referring to is the disturbing trend of mega-corporations being influenced by the federal government (often through back-channel means) to take actions to suppress rights that otherwise can’t gain popular support.

Contrary to the gnashing of teeth, that is actually illegal. Private corporations are not allowed to act as proxies for actions sought by the federal government. Exploring the depth of such collusion would be necessary, but DeSantis is not wrong or crazy for putting the option on the table.

For example, how gullible must a person be to believe this recent move by major credit card companies is just a coincidence?

&lt;blockquote&gt;open collusion between democrats and credit card companies restricting gun rights. no reason to pass laws if financial institutions carry out your agenda for you.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Do you know what it’s called when private companies are influenced and tacitly controlled by the federal government? That’s called fascism, and last I checked, fascism is bad. It is no more acceptable for rights to be crushed by major corporations working hand in hand with Democrats than it is for rights to be crushed directly by the government.

Of course, there are many other examples, including the collusion between the government and private businesses to push vaccine mandates. DeSantis mentioned that as well, again drawing criticism.
...
Wrapping up, libertarians may be content to make drug legalization their top priority, but DeSantis knows what time it is, and he sees where all this is going. If that’s unacceptable to our libertarian friends, then I have a suggestion: Go vote for Libertarians.

For our part, conservatives are not going to sit idly by while oligarchic corporations ally with far-left officials to create a society where you can’t walk into a Wal-Mart without having a vaccine that has no effect on other people (i.e. transmission). We also aren’t going to watch our Second Amendment rights crushed by credit card companies taking their cues from Elizabeth Warren. If that’s too icky for libertarians, then they’ve got other options. Feel free to take them.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ miguel &gt; <a href="https://redstate.com/bonchie/2022/09/12/desantis-under-fire-from-the-right-for-big-business-comments-n626139" rel="nofollow ugc">https://redstate.com/bonchie/2022/09/12/desantis-under-fire-from-the-right-for-big-business-comments-n626139</a></p>
<p>Bonchie points out that the complaints are coming primarily from libertarians, who are resolutely refusing to see how many businesses are now functioning as enforcers of Democrat / Leftist policies.<br />
They may be nominally on the right, but they are not conservatives, as the headline might seem to imply.</p>
<blockquote><p>One writer from Reason  (Stephanie Slade) made a series of posts that were cited by other accounts to condemn DeSantis.<br />
&#8230;<br />
To be clear, the above paraphrases of DeSantis’ comments aren’t wholly accurate. The governor is not just, out of the blue, suggesting that large businesses aren’t private and don’t have First Amendment rights. What he’s referring to is the disturbing trend of mega-corporations being influenced by the federal government (often through back-channel means) to take actions to suppress rights that otherwise can’t gain popular support.</p>
<p>Contrary to the gnashing of teeth, that is actually illegal. Private corporations are not allowed to act as proxies for actions sought by the federal government. Exploring the depth of such collusion would be necessary, but DeSantis is not wrong or crazy for putting the option on the table.</p>
<p>For example, how gullible must a person be to believe this recent move by major credit card companies is just a coincidence?</p>
<blockquote><p>open collusion between democrats and credit card companies restricting gun rights. no reason to pass laws if financial institutions carry out your agenda for you.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Do you know what it’s called when private companies are influenced and tacitly controlled by the federal government? That’s called fascism, and last I checked, fascism is bad. It is no more acceptable for rights to be crushed by major corporations working hand in hand with Democrats than it is for rights to be crushed directly by the government.</p>
<p>Of course, there are many other examples, including the collusion between the government and private businesses to push vaccine mandates. DeSantis mentioned that as well, again drawing criticism.<br />
&#8230;<br />
Wrapping up, libertarians may be content to make drug legalization their top priority, but DeSantis knows what time it is, and he sees where all this is going. If that’s unacceptable to our libertarian friends, then I have a suggestion: Go vote for Libertarians.</p>
<p>For our part, conservatives are not going to sit idly by while oligarchic corporations ally with far-left officials to create a society where you can’t walk into a Wal-Mart without having a vaccine that has no effect on other people (i.e. transmission). We also aren’t going to watch our Second Amendment rights crushed by credit card companies taking their cues from Elizabeth Warren. If that’s too icky for libertarians, then they’ve got other options. Feel free to take them.
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/09/12/open-thread-9-12-22/#comment-2642519</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2022 03:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[PS there is a short video at the Exploration tab that does show how narrow some of the tunnels are, having been filled over the centuries with stalactites and mining debris.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS there is a short video at the Exploration tab that does show how narrow some of the tunnels are, having been filled over the centuries with stalactites and mining debris.</p>
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