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		By: Christopher B		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2022 18:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@M Smith, that was an excellent list.

This feud is likely as old as the hills.  As miguel noted, it goes back to the old &#039;Rockefeller Republican&#039; days if not farther, and got revived with the Tea Party.  I remember the &#039;Republican Grassroots&#039; pins at the county fair GOP booth when my parents manned it.  The phrase &#039;Voodoo Economics&#039; goes back to the GHWB v Reagan nomination fight, not the Democrats (shades of the first mentions of Willie Horton and Obama&#039;s birth certificate.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@M Smith, that was an excellent list.</p>
<p>This feud is likely as old as the hills.  As miguel noted, it goes back to the old &#8216;Rockefeller Republican&#8217; days if not farther, and got revived with the Tea Party.  I remember the &#8216;Republican Grassroots&#8217; pins at the county fair GOP booth when my parents manned it.  The phrase &#8216;Voodoo Economics&#8217; goes back to the GHWB v Reagan nomination fight, not the Democrats (shades of the first mentions of Willie Horton and Obama&#8217;s birth certificate.)</p>
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		By: Alan Potkin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan Potkin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2022 16:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ref: Sarah Palin...

Worth watching in full on C-Span (45 minutes!) even now is the extraordinary —and largely unprecedented in tone and content— acceptance speech then AK Governor Palin gave when she was tapped for the VP role in McCain&#039;s presidential candidacy...

https://www.c-span.org/video/?280790-11/sarah-palin-2008-acceptance-speech 

...It&#039;s totally Trumpism avant la lettre! 

Notwithstanding that the Repub ticket instantly surged ahead of the Obamazoids in the polls, the old guard GOPers knew exactly what kind of threat Palin represented to the Uniparty, if her star was allowed to rise as it was well on its way to so doing. 

So McCain and his cabal brutally threw Palin under the bus, and every aspect of his campaign from that point forward was de-facto defeatist and accommodationist. Of course his polling immediately crashed and burned, but that was secondary to their longterm personal interests. 

Palin never was much publicly associated with the Trumpistas, but I&#039;d think that was likely more due to her coping with family pressing problems; rather than ideologically motivated.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ref: Sarah Palin&#8230;</p>
<p>Worth watching in full on C-Span (45 minutes!) even now is the extraordinary —and largely unprecedented in tone and content— acceptance speech then AK Governor Palin gave when she was tapped for the VP role in McCain&#8217;s presidential candidacy&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="https://www.c-span.org/video/?280790-11/sarah-palin-2008-acceptance-speech" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.c-span.org/video/?280790-11/sarah-palin-2008-acceptance-speech</a> </p>
<p>&#8230;It&#8217;s totally Trumpism avant la lettre! </p>
<p>Notwithstanding that the Repub ticket instantly surged ahead of the Obamazoids in the polls, the old guard GOPers knew exactly what kind of threat Palin represented to the Uniparty, if her star was allowed to rise as it was well on its way to so doing. </p>
<p>So McCain and his cabal brutally threw Palin under the bus, and every aspect of his campaign from that point forward was de-facto defeatist and accommodationist. Of course his polling immediately crashed and burned, but that was secondary to their longterm personal interests. </p>
<p>Palin never was much publicly associated with the Trumpistas, but I&#8217;d think that was likely more due to her coping with family pressing problems; rather than ideologically motivated.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2022 08:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The main problem (issue/phenomenon/mystery/what-have-you)??

It is most remarkable that 80-odd years after Auschwitz, a prominent percentage of American liberals have ENTHUSIASTICALLY EMBRACED the POLITICS OF DEMONIZATION.

(Gosh...who woulda thunk it...?)

Ah, but I keep forgetting---DEMONIZATION...in order to MAKE THE WORLD A FAR, FAR BETTER PLACE!!...

(Now WHERE have we heard THAT before...?)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main problem (issue/phenomenon/mystery/what-have-you)??</p>
<p>It is most remarkable that 80-odd years after Auschwitz, a prominent percentage of American liberals have ENTHUSIASTICALLY EMBRACED the POLITICS OF DEMONIZATION.</p>
<p>(Gosh&#8230;who woulda thunk it&#8230;?)</p>
<p>Ah, but I keep forgetting&#8212;DEMONIZATION&#8230;in order to MAKE THE WORLD A FAR, FAR BETTER PLACE!!&#8230;</p>
<p>(Now WHERE have we heard THAT before&#8230;?)</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2022 08:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Related:
&quot;When Is It Acceptable for Biden’s Team to Work With ‘MAGA Republicans’?&quot;---
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/when-is-it-acceptable-for-bidens-team-to-work-with-maga-republicans/

Which might raise several questions about the &quot;jungle on the Potomac&quot; (and the country) that &quot;Biden&quot; has established/built/imposed....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Related:<br />
&#8220;When Is It Acceptable for Biden’s Team to Work With ‘MAGA Republicans’?&#8221;&#8212;<br />
<a href="https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/when-is-it-acceptable-for-bidens-team-to-work-with-maga-republicans/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/when-is-it-acceptable-for-bidens-team-to-work-with-maga-republicans/</a></p>
<p>Which might raise several questions about the &#8220;jungle on the Potomac&#8221; (and the country) that &#8220;Biden&#8221; has established/built/imposed&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2022 08:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And a more-than-timely piece on Reagan...(for film buffs, but not only):
&quot;A ‘Kings Row’ for the
Rest of Us;
&quot;The American journey is a journey of free will and independence. Brokenness is part of the human condition but it need not be a determining factor in how one’s life
ought to continue.&quot;---
https://amgreatness.com/2022/09/06/a-kings-row-for-the-rest-of-us/
H/T Powerline blog.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And a more-than-timely piece on Reagan&#8230;(for film buffs, but not only):<br />
&#8220;A ‘Kings Row’ for the<br />
Rest of Us;<br />
&#8220;The American journey is a journey of free will and independence. Brokenness is part of the human condition but it need not be a determining factor in how one’s life<br />
ought to continue.&#8221;&#8212;<br />
<a href="https://amgreatness.com/2022/09/06/a-kings-row-for-the-rest-of-us/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://amgreatness.com/2022/09/06/a-kings-row-for-the-rest-of-us/</a><br />
H/T Powerline blog.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2022 07:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another indication of just how grotesque is the problem facing the country:
&quot;Prominent historians jump into political arena, advising Biden, attacking MAGA movement&quot;---
https://justthenews.com/government/white-house/prominent-historians-jump-political-arena-advising-biden-attacking-maga]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another indication of just how grotesque is the problem facing the country:<br />
&#8220;Prominent historians jump into political arena, advising Biden, attacking MAGA movement&#8221;&#8212;<br />
<a href="https://justthenews.com/government/white-house/prominent-historians-jump-political-arena-advising-biden-attacking-maga" rel="nofollow ugc">https://justthenews.com/government/white-house/prominent-historians-jump-political-arena-advising-biden-attacking-maga</a></p>
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		By: Jordan Rivers		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jordan Rivers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2022 06:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Twelfth Commandment: Thou shalt not overlook an iconic Republican president.  :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Twelfth Commandment: Thou shalt not overlook an iconic Republican president.  🙂</p>
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		By: TJ		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2022 05:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It seems no n has mentioned the multi-trillion dollar prize at stake — every year, if not to three times a year. For, like, 15 years, ever since 2007, Congress has had no federal budget. None. No annual spending appropriations

Instead, we have EMERGENCY spending bills because that emergency of the Great Recession required it. The Tea Party formed to combat it, then faded. But the US Chamber of Commerce is MAGA enemy number one,

It used to be said, pace Reagan, that there is no immortality except a government spending program. Updated, there is no immortality but for emergency federal spending.

How else did Biden reverse Trump’s budget that stopped state income taxes deductibility from federal income taxes? Thus saving the Blue States from bankruptcy — instead of sending them there where they belonged.

  Consider how Biden managed to get most of the Communist Green New Deal passed — yes, the creator that the far Left Dems FDR style money for everyone was written by the Sunrise Movement, an explicitly communist enviro front group.

In August, $370 billions for “climate” that does nothing to halt global warming? Yes. But it completely restocks far Left enviro and agitprop groups that will fraud  for more spending and undoubtably be the firehose to mount agitation in enough states to keep the People from sending non-Left pols to the US Senate, and prevent the taxpayers money from being cut from being wasted on corrupting the “Process.”

It is THIS perpetual anti-Trump, anti-MAGA grotesque that McConnell and the US Chamber of Commerce keep gamed against honest politics, labor, and the People that lives on and on like a psychotic axe murderer in a horror flick.

You think I’m exaggerating? Then reconsider lawyer turned video blogger Viva Fred’s explication of Time magazine and Molly Ball’s February election steal confession by projection: listen again. The US Chamber of Commerce helped fund the 2020 stolen election.

THEY HATE YOU AND ME and America — except in so far as they can use her.

“They just had to brag about [stealing] it, didn’t they?

“They don’t like Trump, they don’t like you supporting Trump. They’ve made that pretty clear. Despite all the disingenuous calls for ‘unity’ from Joe Biden, they want those who worked for Trump punished if not ostracized, and Trump supporters ‘re-educated.’”

“They don’t even realize that it’s this demand for ideological conformity to the left or face consequences — either social or financial — is what caused Trump to win in the first place.”
DO YOURSELF A FAVOR, AND LISTEN AGAIN to their evil cynicism and gloat.
https://clashdaily.com/2021/02/watch-lawyer-breaks-down-the-infamous-time-article-about-the-secret-well-funded-cabal-that-fortified-the-2020-election/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems no n has mentioned the multi-trillion dollar prize at stake — every year, if not to three times a year. For, like, 15 years, ever since 2007, Congress has had no federal budget. None. No annual spending appropriations</p>
<p>Instead, we have EMERGENCY spending bills because that emergency of the Great Recession required it. The Tea Party formed to combat it, then faded. But the US Chamber of Commerce is MAGA enemy number one,</p>
<p>It used to be said, pace Reagan, that there is no immortality except a government spending program. Updated, there is no immortality but for emergency federal spending.</p>
<p>How else did Biden reverse Trump’s budget that stopped state income taxes deductibility from federal income taxes? Thus saving the Blue States from bankruptcy — instead of sending them there where they belonged.</p>
<p>  Consider how Biden managed to get most of the Communist Green New Deal passed — yes, the creator that the far Left Dems FDR style money for everyone was written by the Sunrise Movement, an explicitly communist enviro front group.</p>
<p>In August, $370 billions for “climate” that does nothing to halt global warming? Yes. But it completely restocks far Left enviro and agitprop groups that will fraud  for more spending and undoubtably be the firehose to mount agitation in enough states to keep the People from sending non-Left pols to the US Senate, and prevent the taxpayers money from being cut from being wasted on corrupting the “Process.”</p>
<p>It is THIS perpetual anti-Trump, anti-MAGA grotesque that McConnell and the US Chamber of Commerce keep gamed against honest politics, labor, and the People that lives on and on like a psychotic axe murderer in a horror flick.</p>
<p>You think I’m exaggerating? Then reconsider lawyer turned video blogger Viva Fred’s explication of Time magazine and Molly Ball’s February election steal confession by projection: listen again. The US Chamber of Commerce helped fund the 2020 stolen election.</p>
<p>THEY HATE YOU AND ME and America — except in so far as they can use her.</p>
<p>“They just had to brag about [stealing] it, didn’t they?</p>
<p>“They don’t like Trump, they don’t like you supporting Trump. They’ve made that pretty clear. Despite all the disingenuous calls for ‘unity’ from Joe Biden, they want those who worked for Trump punished if not ostracized, and Trump supporters ‘re-educated.’”</p>
<p>“They don’t even realize that it’s this demand for ideological conformity to the left or face consequences — either social or financial — is what caused Trump to win in the first place.”<br />
DO YOURSELF A FAVOR, AND LISTEN AGAIN to their evil cynicism and gloat.<br />
<a href="https://clashdaily.com/2021/02/watch-lawyer-breaks-down-the-infamous-time-article-about-the-secret-well-funded-cabal-that-fortified-the-2020-election/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://clashdaily.com/2021/02/watch-lawyer-breaks-down-the-infamous-time-article-about-the-secret-well-funded-cabal-that-fortified-the-2020-election/</a></p>
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		By: R2L		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2022 04:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Leland,
Some years ago I read a book by Fareed Zakaria, in which he suggested each presidential campaign was essentially its own entrepreneurial effort, somewhat outside of party money or control.  I don&#039;t recall that he claimed this applied to congressional or state level campaigns, but some of that may apply for selected candidates in some races.

I agree with you or others that a semi-formal Contract with America from the R party would be helpful going forward - only going negative against Biden et al. is not enough to create the energy for overcoming the Leftish putsch, or TDS. 

But the recent program offered by FL Senator Rick Scott (AN 11 POINT PLAN
TO RESCUE AMERICA) has not gotten off the ground, as far as I can see.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leland,<br />
Some years ago I read a book by Fareed Zakaria, in which he suggested each presidential campaign was essentially its own entrepreneurial effort, somewhat outside of party money or control.  I don&#8217;t recall that he claimed this applied to congressional or state level campaigns, but some of that may apply for selected candidates in some races.</p>
<p>I agree with you or others that a semi-formal Contract with America from the R party would be helpful going forward &#8211; only going negative against Biden et al. is not enough to create the energy for overcoming the Leftish putsch, or TDS. </p>
<p>But the recent program offered by FL Senator Rick Scott (AN 11 POINT PLAN<br />
TO RESCUE AMERICA) has not gotten off the ground, as far as I can see.</p>
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		By: Leland		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2022 00:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One thing to ask, what are they guarding?  To me, I think of both parties as guilds or unions.  The guards are protecting the structure of those parties.  Trump destabilizes the party by not needing its structure to get elected.  They didn’t like Ted Cruz either, because he worked outside the party to beat then Lt. Gov David Dewhurst for the Texas Senate position.  If more people don’t need the structure of the party, then the leaders can’t control members with fundraising dollars.  The more we, the voters, give our donations directly to preferred candidates, the more it hurts the party and pisses off the old guard.  Of course, they could fix the problem by listening to the voters, but they still work on an old model of promising “next time” to fundraise.  At least that is how I see it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing to ask, what are they guarding?  To me, I think of both parties as guilds or unions.  The guards are protecting the structure of those parties.  Trump destabilizes the party by not needing its structure to get elected.  They didn’t like Ted Cruz either, because he worked outside the party to beat then Lt. Gov David Dewhurst for the Texas Senate position.  If more people don’t need the structure of the party, then the leaders can’t control members with fundraising dollars.  The more we, the voters, give our donations directly to preferred candidates, the more it hurts the party and pisses off the old guard.  Of course, they could fix the problem by listening to the voters, but they still work on an old model of promising “next time” to fundraise.  At least that is how I see it.</p>
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