Comments on: Murder in Memphis

By: David

David — Thu, 08 Sep 2022 22:36:47 +0000

Solution to all the above:

Hang, hang, HANG!!!

By: Art Deco

Art Deco — Thu, 08 Sep 2022 14:05:30 +0000

We as a country need to prosecute more people and jail them for longer periods,

About 40% of all those convicted are remanded to state prison, where they serve a mean of 30 months ‘ere release. I suspect it would do more good to (1) clear out procedural bottlenecks, so cases are disposed of within a year if they go to a jury trial, within 10 weeks if a plea is negotiated; and (2) incarcerate all convicts bar those for which you substitute a corporal punishment. Fines should be for corporate offenders, offenses defined outside the penal code, or supplementary penalties for the most minor crimes. Restitution and forfeiture should be supplementary penalties. Labor services should be imposed on those who do not pay their fines, restitution, or forfeitures. The use of probation should be limited to convicts under 25, and should seldom if ever completely replace incarceratio. Also, be sparing with deferring punishment pending appeal, instead indemnifying people whose appeals were successful. Michael Kinsley’s speculation a generation ago was that ‘a year in jail, starting next week’ would be more of a deterrent that ‘playing roulette for 5-10 at some hazy point down the line’ I suspect is correct.

By: Kate

Kate — Thu, 08 Sep 2022 12:13:04 +0000

Detail, with photo, on the Memphis shooter. Nineteen years old, out on early release after a previous assault conviction, where attempted murder charges had been dropped.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11191713/Memphis-man-loose-police-believe-shot-multiple-people.html

By: Miguel cervantes

Miguel cervantes — Thu, 08 Sep 2022 03:27:40 +0000

One of the few real reporters

https://mobile.twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1567700174868303875?cxt=HHwWhsC-1ZjAy8ErAAAA

By: Oldflyer

Oldflyer — Thu, 08 Sep 2022 03:09:06 +0000

The French had a good idea at one time. Their penal colony was on remote islands off of Guiana, and effectively placed predators far from society. Whether or not it was a deterrent is another question; but, the extreme mortality rate did effectively thin the herd of society’s outcasts. The most notorious of the sites, although not necessarily the most brutal, was Devil’s Island. (Its notoriety stemming largely from the infamous Dreyfus affair.)
Brutal? Yes. The penal colony was not designed for rehabilitation, it was intended to isolate the enemies of society.

Being murdered and/or raped by a habitual predator is also brutal. So, I would advocate isolating anyone guilty of particularly brutal crimes; or anyone with multiple convictions for crimes against person, in an environment that is far removed from civilization. Since the risk to guards would be prohibitive, I would place this facility on a remote island, with patrol craft to prevent unauthorized entry/exit. The bare necessities of life could be dropped by helo. Initially anarchy would prevail. Eventually the strongest, most brutal would emerge as ruler. Much like many parts of the world today. The internal society would take on the characteristics of the jungle–which would be appropriate.

Would we do this? Of course not. We will continue to wring our hands, and perhaps shed a tear, when innocent people are ravaged by predators that society does not have the will to control. We will continue to pretend that people with the instincts of wild animals are amenable to rehabilitation. Our large, and growing , underclass will continue to breed criminals; and our society will continue to degenerate.

By: Mac

Mac — Thu, 08 Sep 2022 02:32:09 +0000

I live in the south and know a few people who have lived in Memphis either long ago (40+ years) or more recently (past 10 years). Both remark on how violent the city has become. The first group mourns, because they knew it before it was this way. The second group posts cynical memes like this one:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ed/02/c7/ed02c745733718f38cfc5836e2163903.jpg

In case the link doesn’t work, the text is:

‘I saw a parked car with a bumper sticker that said “I Miss Memphis.” So I shot out the windows, stole the stereo, slashed all the tires, and left a note that said “Hope this helps.”‘

By: PA+Cat

PA+Cat — Thu, 08 Sep 2022 02:27:23 +0000

Update on the shooting spree: suspect in custody as of 10:25 pm; multiple squad cars and SWAT teams, as you’d expect.

By: PA+Cat

PA+Cat — Thu, 08 Sep 2022 02:11:50 +0000

Memphis looks like a city to avoid in general: there’s a shooting spree going on as I type, and the cops haven’t yet caught the perp:

https://www.fox13memphis.com/live-breaking/

I wonder how many priors this guy has.

By: I Callahan

I Callahan — Thu, 08 Sep 2022 01:37:00 +0000

There is no other way to say it: the whole “there are too many people incarcerated” shibboleth is a load of BS a mile wide. We as a country need to prosecute more people and jail them for longer periods, and if that means doubling prison capacity, so be it.

By: Richard Aubrey

Richard Aubrey — Thu, 08 Sep 2022 01:20:09 +0000

Looking at the early-out judges and prosecutors from an imagined liability insurance point of view:
Early out is described by various circumstances including nature of crime and perp’s history…. Look in the table…..
Anything earlier than that and any crime committed comes to rest on the judge or prosecutor for very large sums. He files a claim.
The premium is going to be….based in part on claims history. As would be the annual policy renewal.
What behavioral differences would we see?

Okay. From that hypo we can tell that the easy out folks don’t care what happens to the rest of us. Or maybe they enjoy the prospect.