Comments on: Why are so many FBI whistleblowers coming forward now?

By: Richard Aubrey

Richard Aubrey — Wed, 31 Aug 2022 19:26:23 +0000

Shredding documents must surely be a metaphor.
When was the last time anybody wrote a “document” with a Bic on a legal pad, or typed one on an old manual?
Nope. They’ve all had some acquaintance with a computer and, likely, its word-processing capabilities. They’re all electronic, whether they were supposed to be or they were that way for convenience.
And if you wrote a document, it was in order to send it to somebody. So if you have it, it’s a copy. The receiver has the original. One way or another. You’re shredding the copy. Might make you feel a bit better, I suppose.
Are you sure a tranche of your work comm didn’t get loose while trying to access pron on your work computer, or looking for oversize loafers at Zappos? What about that one time, that forward to “ALL” OH CRAP!
So even if you wipe your machine with a cloth or put in in a bonfire for Labor Day, are you sure….?

By: M Smith

M Smith — Wed, 31 Aug 2022 18:12:15 +0000

If they have been coming forward it could be that they think that enough is enough and that Biden and Anti-Trump are more of a threat than Trump is. For every agent who comes forward, though, there a dozens or scores who are hunkering down and shredding documents in anticipation of Republicans taking back Congress.

By: BrooklynBoy

BrooklynBoy — Wed, 31 Aug 2022 15:12:46 +0000

The FBI (like the CIA, and the Pentagon is loaded with short sighted ‘careerists’). Nice to see some people in the FBI with good morals and honor but I cringe whenever Sean Hannity says that “99% of the FBI agents are good, decent people”. I think that the Bureau is so far gone it needs to be completely revamped. Peter Strzok and Lisa Page are just two examples.

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Wed, 31 Aug 2022 06:54:30 +0000

@ Neo > “(1) Previously, would-be whistleblowers were so afraid of retaliation that they waited. While they waited, they communicated and networked with each other in some clandestine way until they felt emboldened by strength in numbers.”

Now, why in the world would they fear retaliation, just for talking to Congress — which supposedly has over-sight of the Executive agencies.

https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2022/08/30/smells-like-cover-up-garland-tries-to-shut-down-doj-employees-talking-to-congress-n620378

According to Mike Davis, former Chief Counsel for Nominations to Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley, founder and president of the Article III Project, and a former Gorsuch law clerk, Attorney General Merrick Garland is telling DOJ employees — which would include the FBI — not to talk to Congress.
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Davis wasn’t kidding, here’s the letter from Garland.
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Garland tries to cover himself in the letter, saying that this won’t stop the ability of whistleblowers to talk. But let’s be real, when you see this letter coming now, telling people not to talk to Congress, you know what’s being said here, whether they try to put a nice fig leaf on it to cover or not. Why would this be letter going out now? The people talking to Congress are the FBI whistleblowers. You can dress it up nicely but it still comes across like an effort at a cover-up and intimidating to people who might want to come forward. I’m just going to guess it’s not going to go over well with Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) who has been pursuing a lot of these questions.

Davis makes the great point that if Garland is suddenly concerned about people breaking regulations of some kind, where is the effort from Garland to stop all the leaking like a sieve that the FBI has been doing to the media to help craft the narrative regarding their raid on President Donald Trump?

By: Mythx

Mythx — Tue, 30 Aug 2022 23:16:08 +0000

Neo-

I think there are two possibilities

Optimistic view- The raid on Trump was a last straw. Law enforcement rank and file still skews heavily center/right and they viewed this as a step too far. Especially with such paper thin and apparently ad-hoc justifications for it.

Pessimist view- This is nothing more than deck clearing. Even with skewed polling the Democrats are still coming from behind in most races in November. Realizing this they decided to get ahead of many of these scandals when it would hurt them the least. And it sets up the eventual dumping of Biden as a POTUS candidate in two years.

It is also possible there is a mix of these people in the group. Or I could be entirely off. But that is how I tend to see things stacking up at the moment

By: TJ

TJ — Tue, 30 Aug 2022 23:06:37 +0000

WOW! Too many spot on comments to list quickly. Got a party to attend instead.

By: Kris

Kris — Tue, 30 Aug 2022 22:44:09 +0000

A, a preference cascade collapse?

By: Miguel cervantes

Miguel cervantes — Tue, 30 Aug 2022 22:14:59 +0000

An fbi intel expert was arrested in salt lake city for child molestation charges

By: Geoffrey Britain

Geoffrey Britain — Tue, 30 Aug 2022 22:13:41 +0000

Much too little, far too late. The corruption existed long before the past 7 years.

FBI Director Wray, who replaced the equally slimy Comey is a perfect example of a grim reality; get rid of the people at the top and the ones who take their place will be their understudies.

The rot extends far beyond the FBI. Cutting off one branch will not kill this poisonous plant. No basis exists to assume that any part is not corrupted. It would have to be exhumed in every root and branch, which is neither legally, poltically or culturally possible.

The U.S. Federal government has rendered itself illegitimate by revealing itself to have become an entrenched criminal enterprise.

Like all cancerous enterprises, it will die a violent death.

By: Leland

Leland — Tue, 30 Aug 2022 21:16:13 +0000

I wondered the same thing neo and can’t come up with any activity so egregious now compared with the past. Some might think the raid on Mar-a-lago, and certainly that entered a new territory for political discourse and bureaucratic over-reach, but 1) I think this phenomenon of FBI whistleblowers coming forward started before the MAL raid and 2) the Steele Dossier and the Russian Collusion stuff seemed far worse (they wiretapped the offices of an opposition political campaign and made it “legal” to do so). Many of us can point to various other events in history.

My final straw (in terms of losing all trust in any FBI agent) was the US Women’s Gymnastics team assaults. At a time when US Women’s soccer is making headlines for demanding equality in pay and with an Olympics upcoming; not even NBC during the Olympics made much mention of the testimony by these women to Congress about the abuse ignored for years by the FBI. This was systemic abuse ignored because it interfered with an FBI agent’s personal career aspirations. This is Harvey Weinstein bad, yet it barely made news. People will still talk about #MeToo, but not about the FBI allowing it to happen to underage women who just wanted to represent our nation.

As for the Thibault story, I don’t know what to make of it yet, because at 25 years, he could have just retired and walked out with leadership. If what he did was worth firing him over (and I think it was), then simply walking him out of the office on a Friday isn’t a punishment that I consider sufficient. If he misled DOJ leadership, well General Flynn got punished much more harshly for such an offense to lower-level DOJ peons. Heck, Scooter Libby was punished more harshly.