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		By: Cappy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cappy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2022 13:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[At 127 neighborhoods, the proposal is getting close to one state for each household.  This is dangerously close to the Soverign Citizen concept, mention of which could get you locked up even before January 6th.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At 127 neighborhoods, the proposal is getting close to one state for each household.  This is dangerously close to the Soverign Citizen concept, mention of which could get you locked up even before January 6th.</p>
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		By: T J		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/08/22/the-end-of-the-constitution-at-the-hands-of-the-left/#comment-2639075</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2022 09:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Far left consolidation of power is the plan. The purpose is one party tyranny. (California and New York State are the model they hope to impose upon the rest of us.) And I’m preparing for blood thirty war to see them decimated in spilled blood and bones piled high up, offering my own in the trade-off.

It the only real way to the future and freedom, as the Founders honestly knew.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Far left consolidation of power is the plan. The purpose is one party tyranny. (California and New York State are the model they hope to impose upon the rest of us.) And I’m preparing for blood thirty war to see them decimated in spilled blood and bones piled high up, offering my own in the trade-off.</p>
<p>It the only real way to the future and freedom, as the Founders honestly knew.</p>
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		By: Bruce Hayden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Hayden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2022 19:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“I believe they do want the beginnings of a civil war, so they can put it down harshly and intimidate the rest of the right and any possible sympathizers.”

I see this somewhat similar to the raid on Trump’s MAL estate, along with their persecution of the J6 protesters. No doubt, they would try to intimidate their opposition. That is just how they operate. I would throw in the AntiFA and BLM riots of 2020, pussy hats at the 2019 festivities when Trump was inaugurated, etc. 

That’s just their usual modus operendi. But their strength of overriding norms and doing what it takes to seize power is also their weakness. They don’t have limits, and don’t respect them as a result. They will go too far, and that ultimately means that martyrs will be created. Not just one or two like Ashlii Babbitt, but innocent women and esp kids. They will die, due to the ham handed intimidation that the left will utilize, and the worse it gets for the leftist oppressors, the more they will try to impose their will by violent intimidation. 

It’s the martyrs that I think would turn the civil war hot. Yes, for now, the left that is in power in DC has the attack aircraft, the tanks, etc, to kill a lot of people. But that advantage won’t last long. If used against the American people, innocents will die, and that means more martyrs. Tit for tat means that the military bases being used against the American public would be targeted. Too many people will know where the sorties were being launched from. And, the bulk of the bases are located in Red America. If you launch weapons on Americans, and martyrs are created, as they would be, Expect that your wife and children would be targeted for retaliation. Sure, the military brass may try to protect the families of the pilots and assault troops, but they just don’t have enough combat troops to do more than that (I have seen estimates of how many combat brigades the military has, even with reserves, and there just aren’t enough of them). And 87,000 new, armed, IRS agents aren’t going to help. They would, ultimately be up against retired seasoned combat troops on the other side. Millions of them - the bulk of combat troops have long come from Red America. 

And, of course, logistics for the left would quickly collapse. I know someone who could take down much of the power grid in the Pacific West with a single en block clip from a M1 Garand. Maybe two. Just hit the right power panel at the right substation. S CA gets much of its power from 7 other states, over many thousands of miles of high tension power lines, running through enemy territory. Everyone knows where those power lines are - they tend to run through half mile wide rights of way (except in CA, where they haven’t been properly maintained). Same sorts of logistical issues with other sources of power, food, etc. All transferred through thousands of miles of enemy territory. 

To summarize - if the left, if Blue America tries to intimate Red America through using troops and other militarized government workers against them, they will almost assuredly use (much) too much force, and martyrs will be created, and that is when the gun safes around the country will be unlocked, military families involved will be targeted until their military members defect, and the parts of Blue America supporting them will be left foodless and powerless, starving in the unairconditioned summer heat or unheated winter cold.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I believe they do want the beginnings of a civil war, so they can put it down harshly and intimidate the rest of the right and any possible sympathizers.”</p>
<p>I see this somewhat similar to the raid on Trump’s MAL estate, along with their persecution of the J6 protesters. No doubt, they would try to intimidate their opposition. That is just how they operate. I would throw in the AntiFA and BLM riots of 2020, pussy hats at the 2019 festivities when Trump was inaugurated, etc. </p>
<p>That’s just their usual modus operendi. But their strength of overriding norms and doing what it takes to seize power is also their weakness. They don’t have limits, and don’t respect them as a result. They will go too far, and that ultimately means that martyrs will be created. Not just one or two like Ashlii Babbitt, but innocent women and esp kids. They will die, due to the ham handed intimidation that the left will utilize, and the worse it gets for the leftist oppressors, the more they will try to impose their will by violent intimidation. </p>
<p>It’s the martyrs that I think would turn the civil war hot. Yes, for now, the left that is in power in DC has the attack aircraft, the tanks, etc, to kill a lot of people. But that advantage won’t last long. If used against the American people, innocents will die, and that means more martyrs. Tit for tat means that the military bases being used against the American public would be targeted. Too many people will know where the sorties were being launched from. And, the bulk of the bases are located in Red America. If you launch weapons on Americans, and martyrs are created, as they would be, Expect that your wife and children would be targeted for retaliation. Sure, the military brass may try to protect the families of the pilots and assault troops, but they just don’t have enough combat troops to do more than that (I have seen estimates of how many combat brigades the military has, even with reserves, and there just aren’t enough of them). And 87,000 new, armed, IRS agents aren’t going to help. They would, ultimately be up against retired seasoned combat troops on the other side. Millions of them &#8211; the bulk of combat troops have long come from Red America. </p>
<p>And, of course, logistics for the left would quickly collapse. I know someone who could take down much of the power grid in the Pacific West with a single en block clip from a M1 Garand. Maybe two. Just hit the right power panel at the right substation. S CA gets much of its power from 7 other states, over many thousands of miles of high tension power lines, running through enemy territory. Everyone knows where those power lines are &#8211; they tend to run through half mile wide rights of way (except in CA, where they haven’t been properly maintained). Same sorts of logistical issues with other sources of power, food, etc. All transferred through thousands of miles of enemy territory. </p>
<p>To summarize &#8211; if the left, if Blue America tries to intimate Red America through using troops and other militarized government workers against them, they will almost assuredly use (much) too much force, and martyrs will be created, and that is when the gun safes around the country will be unlocked, military families involved will be targeted until their military members defect, and the parts of Blue America supporting them will be left foodless and powerless, starving in the unairconditioned summer heat or unheated winter cold.</p>
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		By: Links and Comments &#124; Rockport Conservatives		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Links and Comments &#124; Rockport Conservatives]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2022 19:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Sgt. Joe Friday		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sgt. Joe Friday]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2022 15:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How do they intend to &quot;pack the union&quot; when large parts of it are being colonized by Mexico?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do they intend to &#8220;pack the union&#8221; when large parts of it are being colonized by Mexico?</p>
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		By: Richard Cook		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Cook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2022 15:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Brian E: Churchill knew what was up:

If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed;
if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may
come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”
W.S. Churchill]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian E: Churchill knew what was up:</p>
<p>If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed;<br />
if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may<br />
come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”<br />
W.S. Churchill</p>
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		By: Bauxite		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bauxite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2022 13:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think people would stand for 127 microstates made from D.C. neighborhoods, at least before there is general public acceptance for the idea of scrapping the Constitution altogether. I could see the addition of 127 states as a coup de grace at the end of the process, but probably not as the opening move. PR and DC would probably be the opening move. 

(And I wouldn&#039;t put too much faith in the amendments clause in Article V. Leftists have been ignoring the text of the Constitution for over a century now - e.g. the &quot;interstate&quot; commerce clause.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think people would stand for 127 microstates made from D.C. neighborhoods, at least before there is general public acceptance for the idea of scrapping the Constitution altogether. I could see the addition of 127 states as a coup de grace at the end of the process, but probably not as the opening move. PR and DC would probably be the opening move. </p>
<p>(And I wouldn&#8217;t put too much faith in the amendments clause in Article V. Leftists have been ignoring the text of the Constitution for over a century now &#8211; e.g. the &#8220;interstate&#8221; commerce clause.)</p>
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		By: Christopher B		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2022 12:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll cosign y81&#039;s comment early in the thread.  The guys writing this fantasy are hand-waving away the very sticky issue that the territory ceded by Virginia and Maryland for DC was originally a part of duly organized states, and there is precedent going way back such as the creation of Kentucky only with the consent of Virginia of which it was a part, as well as a Constitutional provision, that territory organized and admitted to the Union as part of one state can not be reorganized as another independent state simply by act of Congress.  This was further ratified by the retrocession of part of DC back to Virginia. 
 Maybe Maryland and Virginia would agree to it but maybe they wouldn&#039;t, and one could say the same about any USSC review of the actions.  In any event the passage of an act creating 127 states out of DC would be just the first move in what would probably be a long and protracted battle in the courts and legislatures to legitimize it.  Ultimately y81&#039;s conclusion, and the conclusion of several other commenters, would probably hold.  If the Democrats had sufficient control of the Federal, Maryland, Virgina, and other state governments to make this happen, it would be completely unnecessary relative to the other things they could do without creating any new states.

VDH recently wrote about Civil War pr0n coming from Democrats, and this has much the same feel.  Maybe this is intended to make agreeing to only two states out of DC and PR feel like a &#039;compromise&#039; to the usual weak-kneed RINOs but I think it&#039;s more likely just written to get the Democrat juices flowing prior to the 2022 elections.  They&#039;ve got little else to fuel their onanistic fantasies of &#039;owning the Rethuglicans&#039;, The Turtle&#039;s dour predictions notwithstanding.  May as well dream big.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll cosign y81&#8217;s comment early in the thread.  The guys writing this fantasy are hand-waving away the very sticky issue that the territory ceded by Virginia and Maryland for DC was originally a part of duly organized states, and there is precedent going way back such as the creation of Kentucky only with the consent of Virginia of which it was a part, as well as a Constitutional provision, that territory organized and admitted to the Union as part of one state can not be reorganized as another independent state simply by act of Congress.  This was further ratified by the retrocession of part of DC back to Virginia.<br />
 Maybe Maryland and Virginia would agree to it but maybe they wouldn&#8217;t, and one could say the same about any USSC review of the actions.  In any event the passage of an act creating 127 states out of DC would be just the first move in what would probably be a long and protracted battle in the courts and legislatures to legitimize it.  Ultimately y81&#8217;s conclusion, and the conclusion of several other commenters, would probably hold.  If the Democrats had sufficient control of the Federal, Maryland, Virgina, and other state governments to make this happen, it would be completely unnecessary relative to the other things they could do without creating any new states.</p>
<p>VDH recently wrote about Civil War pr0n coming from Democrats, and this has much the same feel.  Maybe this is intended to make agreeing to only two states out of DC and PR feel like a &#8216;compromise&#8217; to the usual weak-kneed RINOs but I think it&#8217;s more likely just written to get the Democrat juices flowing prior to the 2022 elections.  They&#8217;ve got little else to fuel their onanistic fantasies of &#8216;owning the Rethuglicans&#8217;, The Turtle&#8217;s dour predictions notwithstanding.  May as well dream big.</p>
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		By: Miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2022 12:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Flush it

https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/08/should-we-be-trying-to-create-a-circular-urine-economy/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flush it</p>
<p><a href="https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/08/should-we-be-trying-to-create-a-circular-urine-economy/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/08/should-we-be-trying-to-create-a-circular-urine-economy/</a></p>
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		By: jamesHalifax		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jamesHalifax]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2022 11:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[China&#039;s plan has come together perfectly.  Those were Yuan well spent.  

They got &quot;their guy&quot; in the White House after the big cheat......and now all the other Chinese agents in the Senate and Congress will have an easier time of it while America fights with itself.  

Because if America is tearing itself apart........its enemies don&#039;t have to worry about interference with THEIR plans.  

Because XI is like that guy on the A-Team who liked to say &quot;I Love it when a plan comes together&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China&#8217;s plan has come together perfectly.  Those were Yuan well spent.  </p>
<p>They got &#8220;their guy&#8221; in the White House after the big cheat&#8230;&#8230;and now all the other Chinese agents in the Senate and Congress will have an easier time of it while America fights with itself.  </p>
<p>Because if America is tearing itself apart&#8230;&#8230;..its enemies don&#8217;t have to worry about interference with THEIR plans.  </p>
<p>Because XI is like that guy on the A-Team who liked to say &#8220;I Love it when a plan comes together&#8221;</p>
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