Comments on: “Debunked” this and “false” that – and “deniers”

By: agimarc

agimarc — Fri, 19 Aug 2022 23:58:37 +0000

A great persuasion response to the debunked / elections are clean as the driven snow crowd would be to note that happily (/sarc), in a world where every single thing governments do is corrupt, elections in all 51+ jurisdictions (states + DC – there are more, but play along for at little while) are clean as the driven snow. Use it early and often. Cheers –

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Fri, 19 Aug 2022 19:51:08 +0000

For anyone else who was unsure of the neologism used by Soren:
“Retcon is a shortened form of retroactive continuity, and refers to a literary device in which the form or content of a previously established narrative is changed.”

As for myself, having grown up with a lot of the Golden Age DC comics (my uncle never threw his away), and most of the then-avant-garde upstart Marvel canon, I detest the cowardly practice of retconning all of the origin stories, past histories, biographies, and even physical characteristics of the originals.

If you don’t like our super-heroes, get your own.

By: Jester Naybor

Jester Naybor — Fri, 19 Aug 2022 16:32:56 +0000

All the “debunked” and “denier” labeling we now see on issue after issue, is enabled by a basic fallacy that is accepted by millions of our neighbors.

“A consensus of authority around a narrative, equals conclusive proof of the truth of that narrative.”

That fallacy combines the worst attributes of elitist hubris and mob rule.

But one reason that is accepted, is because we have been led to sell our own insights and common sense short … as inherently inferior to our society’s Pedestaled Elite. People have been led away from even asking simple questions to determine if what they say makes sense … and have been led away from valuing the individual liberty that would render that consensus irrelevant to our own lives.

Such questioning is instead seen as high risk, compared to going with the flow of the consensus … but that consensus is no guarantee of the truth.

By: stan

stan — Fri, 19 Aug 2022 12:58:58 +0000

Ann re: red,

The networks used to alternate red/blue every presidential election.

By: Cappy

Cappy — Fri, 19 Aug 2022 12:21:12 +0000

Welp, it worked for Hitler.

By: Rick Happ

Rick Happ — Fri, 19 Aug 2022 12:13:55 +0000

Lots of good examples in the comments. I do like the term “retconning” to describe how they adjust the narrative. But we need better answers to their nonsense. So let’s see some suggestions for how to reply when the lefties use their ‘debunked’ nonsense. Hopefully we can think of some creative responses, dripping with mockery.

By: Ann in L.A.

Ann in L.A. — Fri, 19 Aug 2022 11:20:28 +0000

Jordan Rivers: I don’t mind the “red” applied to Republicans. I actually think it’s funny that 1) the US does it completely backwards–take THAT world!!—and 2) the origin of the confusing red/blue comes down to Nancy Reagan, sitting in the White House, watching the one of the three main US networks that used red for Republicans the year Reagan got reelected, and deciding she really liked red.

By: Mark Kaulius

Mark Kaulius — Fri, 19 Aug 2022 11:11:19 +0000

Nice Article. Now I need to go back to bed to get rid of my headache. Look I’ll make it easy for you.
The left lies when it is trying to sell its policies.
The left lies when it is trying to destroy the Right’s policies.
In other words the Left (and their media/academic butt dogs) LIE.

By: m1shu

m1shu — Fri, 19 Aug 2022 10:09:15 +0000

This started a while ago when millennial journalism majors whined about having to do “both-sidesim” in their stories. Meanwhile their boomer professors and administrators rolled over and showed their bellies to them. “Oooh! Your generation is so huge! Just like our generation! You’re going to change the world! We won’t impose any standards in your learning.”

By: Soren Rasmussen

Soren Rasmussen — Fri, 19 Aug 2022 07:34:50 +0000

I would suggest using “retcon” as the operative word to describe what the left is doing. They are reframing the past to serve the current need.

Retcons are particularly used in comic books to “adjust” previously established canon to help the current writer tell the story. But of course it goes back at least to the Egyptians who would remove and deface any sign of the previous pharaos to remove them from history.
Saying X is debunked is thus an attempt to impose a new established truth where none in fact exists.