Comments on: Daniel Pipes on warning Rushdie

By: Gordon Scott

Gordon Scott — Sat, 20 Aug 2022 21:02:04 +0000

Rushdie is foolish. The term arrogant prick is apt.

The Japanese translator of The Satanic Verses was murdered. The Italian and Norwegian translators survived attacks. Rushdie lived for a while with Bono of the Irish rock group U2, which, when it was revealed after Rushdie moved elsewhere, gave Bono a chance to emit massive quantities of smug.

The Brits cut diplomatic ties, then restored them when the Iranian government sort of backed away from the fatwa. But the religious leaders never backed off and the Brits are standing with their hands in their pockets, looking at the sky and whistling “Jerusalem.”

Biden et al, which were unanimously horrified at the Saudis bumping off an operative for the Saudi opposition within the House of Saud, have nothing at all to say about the fatwa. See more recent posts.

I’d like to say it couldn’t happen to a bigger shit. Rushdie has, after all, been perfectly encouraging of regimes silencing voices he doesn’t like. But we cannot and should not tolerate that kind of crap. We will, though.

By: Miguel cervantes

Miguel cervantes — Sat, 20 Aug 2022 15:46:59 +0000

He started the long march to liberate al andalus, so obviously problematic

One of the antagonisfs in my novel call him the andalusian ibn jubayr

By: Richard Aubrey

Richard Aubrey — Sat, 20 Aug 2022 15:21:14 +0000

Some years back, I encountered a HS teacher doing AP Spanish. One of her students was the US-born daughter of Saudi immigrants…professionals. She wore the whole head-to-toe garb and followed Ramadan but otherwise seemed perfectly assimilated. Nice kid. Great student.
Comes time to cove el Cid. She wants a different subject since this demeans her faith.
An eleventh-century skull buster demeans her faith?
Rodrigo was born too poor to live off his estates and too noble to to actually work so he went into business as a private military contractor. Fought for and against Christians, for and against Muslims in their little kingdomish squabbles. Likely got folded into the Matter of Spain because he cashed his last check fighting Muslims, but that was the luck of the draw.
And a thousand years later, even learning about him demeans her faith?
Point is, somebody taught her this. And that somebody had been taught that and so on ad infinitum back a thousand years.
What else might be in her mind as to How Things Should Be that we don’t hear about?
Remember, somebody taught her this about the Cid. Took the time. Had the time. Had been taught. Thought it important enough that even learning about it in high school was a kind of poison. Against the faith.
I don’t think it’s paranoid to ask…what else?

By: ObloodyHell

ObloodyHell — Fri, 19 Aug 2022 15:18:27 +0000

}}} Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t pre-fatwa Rushdies a relentless critique of the West and Western civilization?

Yes, but Western Civ is brave enough to withstand and counter criticism, or has been for most of its 400 year span.

Islam has never been able to withstand such. All indications are that Allah is a puny god.

By: ObloodyHell

ObloodyHell — Fri, 19 Aug 2022 15:14:28 +0000

Alan Parsons Project: The Raven
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAE1XTvKLXA

From the excellent album, Tales of Mystery And Imagination

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3keEiSoQ8J0

Note that, if you only heard this in the original vinyl, you missed out on the Orson Welles audio track recorded during the recording sessions, but elided from the original vinyl release, and added back in for the CD release.

By: IrishOtter49 (Roughcoat)

IrishOtter49 (Roughcoat) — Fri, 19 Aug 2022 14:38:13 +0000

Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t pre-fatwa Rushdies a relentless critique of the West and Western civilization?

By: Mike-SMO

Mike-SMO — Fri, 19 Aug 2022 04:31:15 +0000

The little Red enclaves think that they are immune, but advertising and the highway net bring the modern evils to their door steps.

The Chautaugua was negligent, arrogant, and careless. The fatwa against Rushdie was revoked by the Iranian state, not by the originating religious leadership. He still had a target on his back.

Invite the World, and get the World and all its evils. They don’t play by small town rules. Grow up or get used to mopping up blood and attending funerals. The World don’t play “nice”.

By: Miguel cervantes

Miguel cervantes — Fri, 19 Aug 2022 04:15:02 +0000

In europe as his memoit indicates he was heavily guarded in the us on the other hand the regime looks the other way

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Fri, 19 Aug 2022 03:49:32 +0000

@ M Smith > “I can see not wanting to spend 35 years — half your life — in hiding”

The point is, he hasn’t been in hiding since the first 10 years IIRC; what took the Jihad so long?
It’s not like there weren’t any terrorists wandering around in America over the last quarter century —

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Fri, 19 Aug 2022 03:47:36 +0000

@ M Smith > “Chautauqua is a survival of friendly, optimistic, 19th century small town America. Like a lot of Americans, they don’t really understand the wider world and its dangers.”

Maybe Arizona and Texas could send them a couple of busloads of new neighbors.