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		By: Bruce Hayden		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/06/15/woman-is-becoming-a-four-letter-word/#comment-2628520</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Hayden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2022 13:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“This is a gross simplification but what has happened to women is they got rid of men. The male or masculine worldview and attitude have been expunged from public discourse. Women thought that would be liberating but they now have to deal with all the elements of Human Nature that used to be restrained and suppressed by the dominance of the male perspective and…well, willingness to not be emotionally blackmailed by the alleged suffering of others.”

Interesting thought. 

It’s almost as if there were a slippery slope, if not slippery cliff. To be heard, and catered to, people are having to be ever more downtrodden and victimized. But we have gotten to the point where people are being mutilated and neutered just to wrack up victimization points. 

But maybe the tie to feminism is a result of the difference between female and female methods of group decision making. With a group of women, everyone needs to be heard, and their views need to at least be acknowledged. This seems completely pointless to a lot of men, who tend to be a lot more hierarchical. The guy at the top makes the decision, and everyone else follows him. If his decision making leads to suboptimal results, someone else will be followed. With women, they must have the most victimology points to be heard, and catering to their victimology shows the female virtue of caring. From a male point of view, it is all so pointless. We ask: why are we catering to such marginal groups? Why determine what the rest of us have to do, say, or think, based on the mental disorders of a small deviant fraction of a percent of the population? From a guy’s point of view, they don’t matter. 

I had an added thought here while I was writing this. Those pushing this ca tearing to more and more obtuse victimhood seem inevitably to have adopted a Marxist outlook towards tearing down society and then rebuilding it. But they forget that Marxism is, in the end, communitarian, and what is important is the group. The fate of the .1% deviant isn’t of concern to the welfare of the group, and if they become too troublesome, they are simply eliminated.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“This is a gross simplification but what has happened to women is they got rid of men. The male or masculine worldview and attitude have been expunged from public discourse. Women thought that would be liberating but they now have to deal with all the elements of Human Nature that used to be restrained and suppressed by the dominance of the male perspective and…well, willingness to not be emotionally blackmailed by the alleged suffering of others.”</p>
<p>Interesting thought. </p>
<p>It’s almost as if there were a slippery slope, if not slippery cliff. To be heard, and catered to, people are having to be ever more downtrodden and victimized. But we have gotten to the point where people are being mutilated and neutered just to wrack up victimization points. </p>
<p>But maybe the tie to feminism is a result of the difference between female and female methods of group decision making. With a group of women, everyone needs to be heard, and their views need to at least be acknowledged. This seems completely pointless to a lot of men, who tend to be a lot more hierarchical. The guy at the top makes the decision, and everyone else follows him. If his decision making leads to suboptimal results, someone else will be followed. With women, they must have the most victimology points to be heard, and catering to their victimology shows the female virtue of caring. From a male point of view, it is all so pointless. We ask: why are we catering to such marginal groups? Why determine what the rest of us have to do, say, or think, based on the mental disorders of a small deviant fraction of a percent of the population? From a guy’s point of view, they don’t matter. </p>
<p>I had an added thought here while I was writing this. Those pushing this ca tearing to more and more obtuse victimhood seem inevitably to have adopted a Marxist outlook towards tearing down society and then rebuilding it. But they forget that Marxism is, in the end, communitarian, and what is important is the group. The fate of the .1% deviant isn’t of concern to the welfare of the group, and if they become too troublesome, they are simply eliminated.</p>
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		By: n.n		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2022 20:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nothing will change because nothing has changed.  Wicked.  Final, even.  Ethical.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing will change because nothing has changed.  Wicked.  Final, even.  Ethical.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/06/15/woman-is-becoming-a-four-letter-word/#comment-2628429</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2022 20:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Barry Meislin:

Thanks for that link.  A &quot;changer&quot; as neo might say.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry Meislin:</p>
<p>Thanks for that link.  A &#8220;changer&#8221; as neo might say.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/06/15/woman-is-becoming-a-four-letter-word/#comment-2628426</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2022 20:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Extraordinary dissection of the current Left by a person who was a committed Leftist, even Marxist:
&quot;Why I left the left;
&quot;The egalitarian, pro-worker left is gone and it’s not coming back.&quot;
https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/06/08/why-i-left-the-left/
Key grafs (RTWT):
&quot;...The modern left had already lost the plot when I was beginning my career as a feminist writer back in 2009. The fact that any feminist or socialist would frame prostitution as an empowering choice for women was always strange to me. I remained committed nonetheless....
&quot;...The left didn’t want me, but I hung on. It wasn’t until the past couple of years that I came to terms with the fact that I no longer wished to be tied to this modern iteration of the left.
&quot;The most decisive thing for me has been the left’s erasure of women, which is now undeniable....
&quot;...When I criticised this move at the time, my column was later unpublished by Rabble.ca editors, which led to my resignation. In a Facebook post explaining my split from the site, I wrote that I refused to participate in ‘this Nineteen Eighty-Four-style Newspeak’. Things have only become worse since.
&quot;I wanted the left to change. That’s why I stuck around for so long.... I warned that this kind of censorious, cowardly silencing and refusal to have any critical debate about ideas would lead to the left’s failure. But progressives only doubled down – clinging ever-more tightly to ideologies and mantras that are irrational and regressive, and censoring anyone who dared challenge them.
&quot;The left, seemingly along with most feminists, has now decided it no longer knows what a woman is, and that anyone who claims to know must be silenced.
&quot;At a certain point, we have to stop pretending this is just about a few bad apples.... It is time to deal with reality, not wishful thinking: this is the left now, whether we like it or not....&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Extraordinary dissection of the current Left by a person who was a committed Leftist, even Marxist:<br />
&#8220;Why I left the left;<br />
&#8220;The egalitarian, pro-worker left is gone and it’s not coming back.&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/06/08/why-i-left-the-left/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/06/08/why-i-left-the-left/</a><br />
Key grafs (RTWT):<br />
&#8220;&#8230;The modern left had already lost the plot when I was beginning my career as a feminist writer back in 2009. The fact that any feminist or socialist would frame prostitution as an empowering choice for women was always strange to me. I remained committed nonetheless&#8230;.<br />
&#8220;&#8230;The left didn’t want me, but I hung on. It wasn’t until the past couple of years that I came to terms with the fact that I no longer wished to be tied to this modern iteration of the left.<br />
&#8220;The most decisive thing for me has been the left’s erasure of women, which is now undeniable&#8230;.<br />
&#8220;&#8230;When I criticised this move at the time, my column was later unpublished by Rabble.ca editors, which led to my resignation. In a Facebook post explaining my split from the site, I wrote that I refused to participate in ‘this Nineteen Eighty-Four-style Newspeak’. Things have only become worse since.<br />
&#8220;I wanted the left to change. That’s why I stuck around for so long&#8230;. I warned that this kind of censorious, cowardly silencing and refusal to have any critical debate about ideas would lead to the left’s failure. But progressives only doubled down – clinging ever-more tightly to ideologies and mantras that are irrational and regressive, and censoring anyone who dared challenge them.<br />
&#8220;The left, seemingly along with most feminists, has now decided it no longer knows what a woman is, and that anyone who claims to know must be silenced.<br />
&#8220;At a certain point, we have to stop pretending this is just about a few bad apples&#8230;. It is time to deal with reality, not wishful thinking: this is the left now, whether we like it or not&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Martin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/06/15/woman-is-becoming-a-four-letter-word/#comment-2628384</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2022 15:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not necessarily a four letter word but more a name that shall not be spoken. I don&#039;t know if it is Voldemort or one of Monty Python&#039;s other sketches &quot;Y&#039;know, nudge nudge, wink wink, say no more.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not necessarily a four letter word but more a name that shall not be spoken. I don&#8217;t know if it is Voldemort or one of Monty Python&#8217;s other sketches &#8220;Y&#8217;know, nudge nudge, wink wink, say no more.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Robert Shotzberger		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/06/15/woman-is-becoming-a-four-letter-word/#comment-2628367</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Shotzberger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2022 11:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They can define what is a woman. They just don&#039;t want to, because it would show them to be complete frauds.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They can define what is a woman. They just don&#8217;t want to, because it would show them to be complete frauds.</p>
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		By: Miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/06/15/woman-is-becoming-a-four-letter-word/#comment-2628355</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2022 03:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They just need to be slapped with a large fish women are women they are not these bizarre golem carved by butchers no the hack who is a health vice commisar is not a woman just some soul less thing lets start there]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They just need to be slapped with a large fish women are women they are not these bizarre golem carved by butchers no the hack who is a health vice commisar is not a woman just some soul less thing lets start there</p>
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		By: I Am What I Am		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/06/15/woman-is-becoming-a-four-letter-word/#comment-2628354</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[I Am What I Am]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2022 03:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Billy Joel, 2022:  “She ‘s always a person who menstruates to me…”

Helen Reddy, 2022: “I am person who menstruates, hear me roar…”

Robert Plant, 2022: “Person who menstruates, yooooouuuu need me!”

Frank Sanatra, 2022: “Luck be a person who menstruates…”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Billy Joel, 2022:  “She ‘s always a person who menstruates to me…”</p>
<p>Helen Reddy, 2022: “I am person who menstruates, hear me roar…”</p>
<p>Robert Plant, 2022: “Person who menstruates, yooooouuuu need me!”</p>
<p>Frank Sanatra, 2022: “Luck be a person who menstruates…”</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/06/15/woman-is-becoming-a-four-letter-word/#comment-2628336</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2022 00:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[..forgot to mention with mustard, of course.
Sincere apologies...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>..forgot to mention with mustard, of course.<br />
Sincere apologies&#8230;</p>
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		By: charles		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/06/15/woman-is-becoming-a-four-letter-word/#comment-2628335</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[charles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2022 00:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;It’s another supply chain problem where women are bearing the brunt of the cost…&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;&quot;She’s met women who don’t have the resources to make multiple trips to the store…&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

In both these examples using the word &quot;women&quot; I suspect it was okayed by the editors because it shows how women are suffering because of &quot;the system&quot; imposed on them. Even if the author didn&#039;t call it the &quot;male patriarchy&quot; it is implied.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;It’s another supply chain problem where women are bearing the brunt of the cost…&#8221;</i></p>
<p><i>&#8220;She’s met women who don’t have the resources to make multiple trips to the store…&#8221;</i></p>
<p>In both these examples using the word &#8220;women&#8221; I suspect it was okayed by the editors because it shows how women are suffering because of &#8220;the system&#8221; imposed on them. Even if the author didn&#8217;t call it the &#8220;male patriarchy&#8221; it is implied.</p>
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