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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2022 06:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey, any further news on that Pelosi Porsche &quot;incident&quot;?
(Hmm, didn&#039;t think so....)

Another &quot;phenomenon&quot; that&#039;s been memory holed?
&quot;Hillary&#039;s Attorney &#039;Operated&#039; an FBI Office at Law Firm, But Wait, It Gets Worse...&quot;---
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/victoria-taft/2022/06/03/hillarys-attorney-operated-an-fbi-office-at-law-firm-but-wait-it-gets-worse-n1602734
Key grafs:
&#039;...Congressmen Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) and Matt Gaetz (R-Fla) say a whistleblower informed them that Perkins Coie, for which Hillary and the DNC’s campaign attorneys Marc Elias and Sussmann worked, had an FBI outpost there. That’s right, an office space inside the Perkins Coie law firm was run  “in concert with the FBI,” according to Gaetz. &lt;b&gt;And Michael Sussmann was “operating that worksite.&lt;/b&gt;”...[Emphasis mine; Barry M.]
&#039;...While Sussmann is an election attorney, he also specializes in cyber security, but it still doesn’t explain why the FBI office space is “operated” by him. And Sussmann also has as one of his clients another man being looked at by Durham, federal cyber security contractor Rodney Joffe.
&#039;Gaetz told Carlson that he is concerned “that politically motivated dirt was being converted into politically motivated in investigations.” That question appears to have been asked and answered so far in the Durham investigation and the Sussmann trial documents. That’s exactly what they did. Former federal prosecutor Andy McCarthy called this  the “Ball of Collusion.”...&#039;
&#039;...Conservative Treehouse has been reporting for the past couple of years that the Obama administration began weaponizing the executive branch, such as the IRS and its lackey Lois Lerner as its chief source of information and potential dirt on political enemies, in cahoots with Attorney General Eric Holder. The tale is long, intricate, and awful, but suffice it to say, when that informational spigot was turned off for Obama’s spies looking for dirt on their political enemies, they cast about for new fonts of info.
&#039;Voila! The spigot was turned on in 2012 and ended on April 18, 2016, for “FBI contractors” when Admiral Mike Rogers, the head of the NSA, saw that contractors and outsiders were using their database, shared with the FBI, to make inappropriate “FISA-702 search” queries....&#039;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, any further news on that Pelosi Porsche &#8220;incident&#8221;?<br />
(Hmm, didn&#8217;t think so&#8230;.)</p>
<p>Another &#8220;phenomenon&#8221; that&#8217;s been memory holed?<br />
&#8220;Hillary&#8217;s Attorney &#8216;Operated&#8217; an FBI Office at Law Firm, But Wait, It Gets Worse&#8230;&#8221;&#8212;<br />
<a href="https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/victoria-taft/2022/06/03/hillarys-attorney-operated-an-fbi-office-at-law-firm-but-wait-it-gets-worse-n1602734" rel="nofollow ugc">https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/victoria-taft/2022/06/03/hillarys-attorney-operated-an-fbi-office-at-law-firm-but-wait-it-gets-worse-n1602734</a><br />
Key grafs:<br />
&#8216;&#8230;Congressmen Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) and Matt Gaetz (R-Fla) say a whistleblower informed them that Perkins Coie, for which Hillary and the DNC’s campaign attorneys Marc Elias and Sussmann worked, had an FBI outpost there. That’s right, an office space inside the Perkins Coie law firm was run  “in concert with the FBI,” according to Gaetz. <b>And Michael Sussmann was “operating that worksite.</b>”&#8230;[Emphasis mine; Barry M.]<br />
&#8216;&#8230;While Sussmann is an election attorney, he also specializes in cyber security, but it still doesn’t explain why the FBI office space is “operated” by him. And Sussmann also has as one of his clients another man being looked at by Durham, federal cyber security contractor Rodney Joffe.<br />
&#8216;Gaetz told Carlson that he is concerned “that politically motivated dirt was being converted into politically motivated in investigations.” That question appears to have been asked and answered so far in the Durham investigation and the Sussmann trial documents. That’s exactly what they did. Former federal prosecutor Andy McCarthy called this  the “Ball of Collusion.”&#8230;&#8217;<br />
&#8216;&#8230;Conservative Treehouse has been reporting for the past couple of years that the Obama administration began weaponizing the executive branch, such as the IRS and its lackey Lois Lerner as its chief source of information and potential dirt on political enemies, in cahoots with Attorney General Eric Holder. The tale is long, intricate, and awful, but suffice it to say, when that informational spigot was turned off for Obama’s spies looking for dirt on their political enemies, they cast about for new fonts of info.<br />
&#8216;Voila! The spigot was turned on in 2012 and ended on April 18, 2016, for “FBI contractors” when Admiral Mike Rogers, the head of the NSA, saw that contractors and outsiders were using their database, shared with the FBI, to make inappropriate “FISA-702 search” queries&#8230;.&#8217;</p>
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		By: ObloodyHell		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/06/04/open-thread-6-4-22/#comment-2626663</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2022 05:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[}}} &lt;i&gt;(IZ JOKE!! Google is a misspelling of googol, just as Macintosh is a misspelling of either the apple variety or the raincoat).&lt;/i&gt;

BTW, I will note that, in both cases, you could probably make an argument that they were deliberate misspellings promoted by the legal departments, since otherwise it may have been more difficult to trademark the words. ;-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>}}} <i>(IZ JOKE!! Google is a misspelling of googol, just as Macintosh is a misspelling of either the apple variety or the raincoat).</i></p>
<p>BTW, I will note that, in both cases, you could probably make an argument that they were deliberate misspellings promoted by the legal departments, since otherwise it may have been more difficult to trademark the words. 😉</p>
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		By: ObloodyHell		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/06/04/open-thread-6-4-22/#comment-2626662</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ObloodyHell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2022 05:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[}}} &lt;i&gt;The Battle of Midway – 80th Anniversary Stream ft. Jon Parshall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVhHKPvfL5k

It should be very good with lots of detail (not gimmicks and eye candy, actual content).&lt;/i&gt;

How does it compare with the old 1976 Midway movie, which was done (as was Tora! Tora! Tora!) in a semi-documentary style, suggesting serious efforts at accuracy?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074899/

It was, as I recall, in Sensurround, which used serious bass speakers to give realism to the explosions, etc., but also one of the movies which ended the use of Sensurround, because in very old theaters, it was shaking the ceiling plaster loose and dropping it on theatergoers. :-P]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>}}} <i>The Battle of Midway – 80th Anniversary Stream ft. Jon Parshall</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVhHKPvfL5k" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVhHKPvfL5k</a></p>
<p>It should be very good with lots of detail (not gimmicks and eye candy, actual content).</i></p>
<p>How does it compare with the old 1976 Midway movie, which was done (as was Tora! Tora! Tora!) in a semi-documentary style, suggesting serious efforts at accuracy?</p>
<p><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074899/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074899/</a></p>
<p>It was, as I recall, in Sensurround, which used serious bass speakers to give realism to the explosions, etc., but also one of the movies which ended the use of Sensurround, because in very old theaters, it was shaking the ceiling plaster loose and dropping it on theatergoers. 😛</p>
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		By: ObloodyHell		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/06/04/open-thread-6-4-22/#comment-2626661</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2022 05:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[P.S., the wiki entry for Graham&#039;s Number (I forget if I was thinking of that or Skewes&#039; number when I mentioned &quot;larger&quot; numbers) is interesting:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham%27s_number

Graham&#039;s number is so large it cannot be &lt;b&gt;physically represented&lt;/b&gt; in the observable universe, just to put it into perspective.

And yet...

}}} &lt;i&gt; Other specific integers (such as TREE(3)) known to be far larger than Graham&#039;s number have since appeared in many serious mathematical proofs&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S., the wiki entry for Graham&#8217;s Number (I forget if I was thinking of that or Skewes&#8217; number when I mentioned &#8220;larger&#8221; numbers) is interesting:</p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham%27s_number" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham%27s_number</a></p>
<p>Graham&#8217;s number is so large it cannot be <b>physically represented</b> in the observable universe, just to put it into perspective.</p>
<p>And yet&#8230;</p>
<p>}}} <i> Other specific integers (such as TREE(3)) known to be far larger than Graham&#8217;s number have since appeared in many serious mathematical proofs</i></p>
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		By: ObloodyHell		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/06/04/open-thread-6-4-22/#comment-2626660</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ObloodyHell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2022 04:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[}}} &lt;i&gt;(Note the spelling: googol, not google.)&lt;/i&gt;

A popular misspelling up with which I refuse to countenance. 

It&#039;s a google, not a googol. :-P

.

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(IZ JOKE!! Google is a misspelling of googol, just as Macintosh is a misspelling of either the apple variety or the raincoat).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>}}} <i>(Note the spelling: googol, not google.)</i></p>
<p>A popular misspelling up with which I refuse to countenance. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a google, not a googol. 😛</p>
<p>.</p>
<p>.</p>
<p>.</p>
<p>.<br />
(IZ JOKE!! Google is a misspelling of googol, just as Macintosh is a misspelling of either the apple variety or the raincoat).</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2022 02:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Then there&#039;s the Liverpool Shuffle:

--&quot;A Hard Day&#039;s Night&quot; (0:15)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-kxb20oqNQ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then there&#8217;s the Liverpool Shuffle:</p>
<p>&#8211;&#8220;A Hard Day&#8217;s Night&#8221; (0:15)<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-kxb20oqNQ" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-kxb20oqNQ</a></p>
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		By: BigD		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/06/04/open-thread-6-4-22/#comment-2626640</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BigD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2022 01:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BTW, this also assumes you shuffle enough. Apparently you have to shuffle 7 times to get the effect described in the video. More info is in this link

http://thescienceexplorer.com/universe/how-many-times-should-you-shuffle-deck-cards

Which also has a link to a youtube video from numberphile. If you don&#039;t shuffle that many times then no you wouldn&#039;t see 52!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, this also assumes you shuffle enough. Apparently you have to shuffle 7 times to get the effect described in the video. More info is in this link</p>
<p><a href="http://thescienceexplorer.com/universe/how-many-times-should-you-shuffle-deck-cards" rel="nofollow ugc">http://thescienceexplorer.com/universe/how-many-times-should-you-shuffle-deck-cards</a></p>
<p>Which also has a link to a youtube video from numberphile. If you don&#8217;t shuffle that many times then no you wouldn&#8217;t see 52!</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/06/04/open-thread-6-4-22/#comment-2626605</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2022 19:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yellen again in a classic &quot;I really am competent, really I am&quot; moment:
She seems to LOVE the publicity....
&quot;Yellen Throws Biden Under The Bus On Runaway Inflation: She &quot;Wanted&quot; $1.9 Trillion Stimulus Cut By A Third&quot;---
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/yellen-throws-biden-under-bus-runaway-inflation-she-wanted-19-trillion-stimulus-cut-third

...or maybe that should be a classic &quot;I really have integrity, really I do&quot; moment....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yellen again in a classic &#8220;I really am competent, really I am&#8221; moment:<br />
She seems to LOVE the publicity&#8230;.<br />
&#8220;Yellen Throws Biden Under The Bus On Runaway Inflation: She &#8220;Wanted&#8221; $1.9 Trillion Stimulus Cut By A Third&#8221;&#8212;<br />
<a href="https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/yellen-throws-biden-under-bus-runaway-inflation-she-wanted-19-trillion-stimulus-cut-third" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/yellen-throws-biden-under-bus-runaway-inflation-she-wanted-19-trillion-stimulus-cut-third</a></p>
<p>&#8230;or maybe that should be a classic &#8220;I really have integrity, really I do&#8221; moment&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/06/04/open-thread-6-4-22/#comment-2626603</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2022 19:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Naomi Wolf is, very simply, a nut case. 
This doesn&#039;t mean that she&#039;s wrong necessarily; only  that any claim she makes should be taken with a salt-mine&#039;s worth of NaCl.

(Having said that, she does seem to have become more sane ever since realizing that her former friends on the left have become The Enemy... Still, remember that salt mine.)

Speaking of &quot;outlandish&quot;---and likely soon to be illegal---claims...
https://blazingcatfur.ca/2022/06/04/get-ready-lara-logans-new-film-on-election-fraud-is-almost-here/

File under: Wrongthink must be eradicated from the face of the Earth!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naomi Wolf is, very simply, a nut case.<br />
This doesn&#8217;t mean that she&#8217;s wrong necessarily; only  that any claim she makes should be taken with a salt-mine&#8217;s worth of NaCl.</p>
<p>(Having said that, she does seem to have become more sane ever since realizing that her former friends on the left have become The Enemy&#8230; Still, remember that salt mine.)</p>
<p>Speaking of &#8220;outlandish&#8221;&#8212;and likely soon to be illegal&#8212;claims&#8230;<br />
<a href="https://blazingcatfur.ca/2022/06/04/get-ready-lara-logans-new-film-on-election-fraud-is-almost-here/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://blazingcatfur.ca/2022/06/04/get-ready-lara-logans-new-film-on-election-fraud-is-almost-here/</a></p>
<p>File under: Wrongthink must be eradicated from the face of the Earth!!</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/06/04/open-thread-6-4-22/#comment-2626599</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2022 18:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AesopFan:

It would be very difficult to check Wolf&#039;s assertions because the link she gives is to a mountain of articles that would take about a year to plow through.  But one thing I can say is that I see some headlines there that deal with claims about the vaccine that I&#039;ve already looked into and they are incorrect according to my own analysis. Wolf herself has sort of gone off the deep end in recent years in many ways, and I&#039;m not impressed by her intellectual rigor at all in the field of hard science.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AesopFan:</p>
<p>It would be very difficult to check Wolf&#8217;s assertions because the link she gives is to a mountain of articles that would take about a year to plow through.  But one thing I can say is that I see some headlines there that deal with claims about the vaccine that I&#8217;ve already looked into and they are incorrect according to my own analysis. Wolf herself has sort of gone off the deep end in recent years in many ways, and I&#8217;m not impressed by her intellectual rigor at all in the field of hard science.</p>
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