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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[I live in Michigan.   That&#039;s where the feds faked up an entrapment case about kidnapping Whitmer.  Most folks know it.  Some do but don&#039;t admit it and some think it was a fine idea.
So let&#039;s say half know it was a fibbie plan.  Of that cohort, most have seen or heard of the Richard Jewell movie, and many knew about the scam years earlier.
Since much of the Larry Nassar case abusing young female gymnasts occurred in Michigan, more of us know about it than in other states, including the fibbies&#039; studious and energetic avoidance of the case.
It&#039;s conceivable that half the potential jury pool in Michigan are aware of all three issues, certainly more are aware of one or two.
It&#039;s conceivable that some know of the ATF&#039;s trick of faking low-functioning adults into federal fire arms crimes.   I recall Holder saying that when he heard about it he ordered it stopped.  That meant the evidence was too wide and deep to even bother trying to lie about it.
The wife of the Orlando night club shooter was cleared of various charges such as obstruction and assistance.  One juror said the jurists had been doubtful of some of the FBI testimony because they were FBI.
Yeah.  Not seeing fed prosecutors having a good time in a court room outside of DC.  Might not have a good time when everybody else is invited to the block party.
It&#039;s not going to be a clean adversarial proceeding.  It&#039;s going to be doubting the prosecution&#039;s case from the get go no matter evidence provided.
Too bad. It&#039;s possible they arrest an actual bad guy from time to time by accident.  But doing juror null to be on the safe side is going to occur to a lot more people going forward.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Michigan.   That&#8217;s where the feds faked up an entrapment case about kidnapping Whitmer.  Most folks know it.  Some do but don&#8217;t admit it and some think it was a fine idea.<br />
So let&#8217;s say half know it was a fibbie plan.  Of that cohort, most have seen or heard of the Richard Jewell movie, and many knew about the scam years earlier.<br />
Since much of the Larry Nassar case abusing young female gymnasts occurred in Michigan, more of us know about it than in other states, including the fibbies&#8217; studious and energetic avoidance of the case.<br />
It&#8217;s conceivable that half the potential jury pool in Michigan are aware of all three issues, certainly more are aware of one or two.<br />
It&#8217;s conceivable that some know of the ATF&#8217;s trick of faking low-functioning adults into federal fire arms crimes.   I recall Holder saying that when he heard about it he ordered it stopped.  That meant the evidence was too wide and deep to even bother trying to lie about it.<br />
The wife of the Orlando night club shooter was cleared of various charges such as obstruction and assistance.  One juror said the jurists had been doubtful of some of the FBI testimony because they were FBI.<br />
Yeah.  Not seeing fed prosecutors having a good time in a court room outside of DC.  Might not have a good time when everybody else is invited to the block party.<br />
It&#8217;s not going to be a clean adversarial proceeding.  It&#8217;s going to be doubting the prosecution&#8217;s case from the get go no matter evidence provided.<br />
Too bad. It&#8217;s possible they arrest an actual bad guy from time to time by accident.  But doing juror null to be on the safe side is going to occur to a lot more people going forward.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2022 16:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Danimal28 &#062; &quot;Love ya, Sarah, precisely because you came from a communist state and understand the preciousness of America;&quot;

Are you perhaps addressing Sarah Hoyt, who was born in Portugal but got here as soon as she could?
She has a lot of cross-over readers with Neo.

For obvious reasons.
https://accordingtohoyt.com/2022/05/28/parallel-worlds/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Danimal28 &gt; &#8220;Love ya, Sarah, precisely because you came from a communist state and understand the preciousness of America;&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you perhaps addressing Sarah Hoyt, who was born in Portugal but got here as soon as she could?<br />
She has a lot of cross-over readers with Neo.</p>
<p>For obvious reasons.<br />
<a href="https://accordingtohoyt.com/2022/05/28/parallel-worlds/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://accordingtohoyt.com/2022/05/28/parallel-worlds/</a></p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2022 16:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;And now we learn that not just in 2016, &lt;b&gt;but four years earlier,&lt;/b&gt; dating to the middle of the Obama administration, the FBI had some kind of cozy relationship with the Perkins firm.&quot;

In 2012, the Democrats could not possibly have known - or even guessed? - that Donald Trump would enter the 2016 election race, much less that he would win.
So Obama-Clinton Inc. was already preparing to pull dirty tricks on whoever got the nomination, in expectation of tanking his (or her) candidacy.

An insurance policy for Hillary, indeed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And now we learn that not just in 2016, <b>but four years earlier,</b> dating to the middle of the Obama administration, the FBI had some kind of cozy relationship with the Perkins firm.&#8221;</p>
<p>In 2012, the Democrats could not possibly have known &#8211; or even guessed? &#8211; that Donald Trump would enter the 2016 election race, much less that he would win.<br />
So Obama-Clinton Inc. was already preparing to pull dirty tricks on whoever got the nomination, in expectation of tanking his (or her) candidacy.</p>
<p>An insurance policy for Hillary, indeed.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2022 13:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Related:
&quot;Ric Grenell...: &#039;I&#039;ve Seen the Evidence,&#039; Comey Must Be &#039;Prosecuted&#039;&quot;---
https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/ric-grenell-donald-trump-john-durham-michael-sussmann/2022/06/01/id/1072555/
Key graf:
&#039;...&quot;We live in a country where no one is above the law, and this political partisanship that&#039;s going on in Washington, D.C., where three Clinton donors and an AOC [Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y.] donor all get together with the judge who&#039;s married to someone who represented Lisa Page, somehow tries to tell the rest of America that we have a really clean, honest, legal system, and I think that the American people can see it,&quot; Grenell said. &quot;They know that it&#039;s phony, and we got to clean it up, so I&#039;m not going to stop until we prosecute Jim Comey. I think he is guilty. I&#039;ve seen the evidence, and he needs to be prosecuted.&quot;....&#039;

Drip, drip, drip...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Related:<br />
&#8220;Ric Grenell&#8230;: &#8216;I&#8217;ve Seen the Evidence,&#8217; Comey Must Be &#8216;Prosecuted'&#8221;&#8212;<br />
<a href="https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/ric-grenell-donald-trump-john-durham-michael-sussmann/2022/06/01/id/1072555/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/ric-grenell-donald-trump-john-durham-michael-sussmann/2022/06/01/id/1072555/</a><br />
Key graf:<br />
&#8216;&#8230;&#8221;We live in a country where no one is above the law, and this political partisanship that&#8217;s going on in Washington, D.C., where three Clinton donors and an AOC [Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y.] donor all get together with the judge who&#8217;s married to someone who represented Lisa Page, somehow tries to tell the rest of America that we have a really clean, honest, legal system, and I think that the American people can see it,&#8221; Grenell said. &#8220;They know that it&#8217;s phony, and we got to clean it up, so I&#8217;m not going to stop until we prosecute Jim Comey. I think he is guilty. I&#8217;ve seen the evidence, and he needs to be prosecuted.&#8221;&#8230;.&#8217;</p>
<p>Drip, drip, drip&#8230;</p>
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		By: Danimal28		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Danimal28]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2022 11:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Love ya, Sarah, precisely because you came from a communist state and understand the preciousness of America; I served in Europe when the Wall was up(then down) and witnessed it...

Sundance at the Last Refuge has been documenting the FBI chicanery since 2017.  The fact that McCarthy was a federal prosecutor for so many years and still believes our federal &#039;the rank and file&#039; are our finest is extremely naïve and I will not give him quarter on this until he actually acts to root out the filth.  G-d damn him and the rest of our federales for violating the oath all of us took.  Sorry.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love ya, Sarah, precisely because you came from a communist state and understand the preciousness of America; I served in Europe when the Wall was up(then down) and witnessed it&#8230;</p>
<p>Sundance at the Last Refuge has been documenting the FBI chicanery since 2017.  The fact that McCarthy was a federal prosecutor for so many years and still believes our federal &#8216;the rank and file&#8217; are our finest is extremely naïve and I will not give him quarter on this until he actually acts to root out the filth.  G-d damn him and the rest of our federales for violating the oath all of us took.  Sorry.</p>
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		By: Miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2022 04:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is what weve found out just in the past few years while the bureau was laser focused on carter page a year and a half of surveilance of course the witchhunt against general flynn]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what weve found out just in the past few years while the bureau was laser focused on carter page a year and a half of surveilance of course the witchhunt against general flynn</p>
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		By: Miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2022 04:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Keep in mind there was a russian mole in the special forces peter dobbins 
therehttps://www.voanews.com/a/usa_former-us-army-officer-arrested-charges-spying-russia/6194805.html
He was active for 20 or so was an iranian mole in air force intelligence who defected over there (around the time of snowden) we didnt now about it for 6, there were chinese spies in the bureauhttps://observer.com/2016/08/breaking-chinese-mole-uncovered-inside-the-fbi/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep in mind there was a russian mole in the special forces peter dobbins<br />
therehttps://www.voanews.com/a/usa_former-us-army-officer-arrested-charges-spying-russia/6194805.html<br />
He was active for 20 or so was an iranian mole in air force intelligence who defected over there (around the time of snowden) we didnt now about it for 6, there were chinese spies in the bureauhttps://observer.com/2016/08/breaking-chinese-mole-uncovered-inside-the-fbi/</p>
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		By: Miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2022 04:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We had more spare capacity then, consider this notion if the russians wanted to target our food supply using spetznaz troops whaf would they do differently]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had more spare capacity then, consider this notion if the russians wanted to target our food supply using spetznaz troops whaf would they do differently</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/06/01/it-turns-out-the-fbi-has-been-very-cozy-with-perkins-coie/#comment-2626044</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2022 04:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Spartacus &#062; &quot;I never was a conspiracy theorist five years ago. But now I look at each anomalous event through that lens and most times it comes out to be so. The mean time from “conspiracy” to fact has shortened to about 3 months.&quot;

First - good to hear from you! I hope, as I&#039;m sure most of us do, that your election work is going well. And yeah, that does seem to be the case now.

https://twitter.com/SethDillon/status/1528918709577961472
&quot;Please enjoy this collection of Babylon Bee jokes that came true.&quot; 
Links to a looonngg GoogleDocs spreadsheet going back a couple of years.

Here are this year&#039;s predictions; we&#039;re closing in on some of them.
https://babylonbee.com/news/the-babylon-bees-top-predictions-for-2022


* * * 
&#062; &quot;The burning of food processing plants is something strange. Wonder why?&quot;

As it happened, I just read this today about the processing plant disasters that have been in the news lately. Sounds plausible to me, and the references cited don&#039;t appear to have a political bias (though everything seems to have that these days).

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/jeff-reynolds/2022/06/01/update-on-food-plants-blowing-up-more-explosions-more-stress-on-domestic-food-supply-n1602423
&lt;blockquote&gt;Jim Geraghty at National Review made the point that the number of such disasters hasn’t actually increased:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
What we’re likely experiencing is the “Baader-Meinhof Phenomenon,” a.k.a. “frequency illusion” — when you hear a term and then feel like you’re suddenly seeing it everywhere. In reality, whatever you’re observing is occurring at the same frequency, it’s just that you didn’t notice it or ignored it before.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
...
The National Fire Protection Association (NFPA), which PJ Media quoted in the May 2 article, has since examined the reports of food plant incidents to determine if a trend has emerged. NFPA reports:&lt;blockquote&gt;
The truth, however, is that nothing is unusual about any of the fires that have occurred in food processing plants over the first few months of the year. Although no data is kept on fires that occur strictly at food processing facilities, the National Fire Incident Reporting System tracks fires within broader categories like manufacturing, refrigerated storage, and agricultural facilities.&lt;b&gt; In 2019, the number of fires at all manufacturing or processing plants in the country topped 5,300—nearly 15 a day. Additionally, more than 2,000 fires occurred in agricultural, grain and livestock, and refrigerated storage facilities, which could all include food processing operations.&lt;/b&gt;
...
While Messerschmidt hopes the focus on these fires will shift away from the conspiracy theories surrounding them, she said there is still value to examining what went wrong in particular incidents.
...
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Any number of factors could be at play, including the proclivity of fire to break out at these plants, supply chain stresses, deferred maintenance, and the possibility of insurance fraud and arson, which is hardly unheard of. We have also seen some high-profile cyberattacks, and the FBI has warned that more could be on the way.

So, while no trend has emerged, it’s still something to keep an eye on, and it continues to cause more stress on an already overburdened domestic food supply system.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Spartacus &gt; &#8220;I never was a conspiracy theorist five years ago. But now I look at each anomalous event through that lens and most times it comes out to be so. The mean time from “conspiracy” to fact has shortened to about 3 months.&#8221;</p>
<p>First &#8211; good to hear from you! I hope, as I&#8217;m sure most of us do, that your election work is going well. And yeah, that does seem to be the case now.</p>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/SethDillon/status/1528918709577961472" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/SethDillon/status/1528918709577961472</a><br />
&#8220;Please enjoy this collection of Babylon Bee jokes that came true.&#8221;<br />
Links to a looonngg GoogleDocs spreadsheet going back a couple of years.</p>
<p>Here are this year&#8217;s predictions; we&#8217;re closing in on some of them.<br />
<a href="https://babylonbee.com/news/the-babylon-bees-top-predictions-for-2022" rel="nofollow ugc">https://babylonbee.com/news/the-babylon-bees-top-predictions-for-2022</a></p>
<p>* * *<br />
&gt; &#8220;The burning of food processing plants is something strange. Wonder why?&#8221;</p>
<p>As it happened, I just read this today about the processing plant disasters that have been in the news lately. Sounds plausible to me, and the references cited don&#8217;t appear to have a political bias (though everything seems to have that these days).</p>
<p><a href="https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/jeff-reynolds/2022/06/01/update-on-food-plants-blowing-up-more-explosions-more-stress-on-domestic-food-supply-n1602423" rel="nofollow ugc">https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/jeff-reynolds/2022/06/01/update-on-food-plants-blowing-up-more-explosions-more-stress-on-domestic-food-supply-n1602423</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Jim Geraghty at National Review made the point that the number of such disasters hasn’t actually increased:</p>
<blockquote><p>
What we’re likely experiencing is the “Baader-Meinhof Phenomenon,” a.k.a. “frequency illusion” — when you hear a term and then feel like you’re suddenly seeing it everywhere. In reality, whatever you’re observing is occurring at the same frequency, it’s just that you didn’t notice it or ignored it before.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230;<br />
The National Fire Protection Association (NFPA), which PJ Media quoted in the May 2 article, has since examined the reports of food plant incidents to determine if a trend has emerged. NFPA reports:</p>
<blockquote><p>
The truth, however, is that nothing is unusual about any of the fires that have occurred in food processing plants over the first few months of the year. Although no data is kept on fires that occur strictly at food processing facilities, the National Fire Incident Reporting System tracks fires within broader categories like manufacturing, refrigerated storage, and agricultural facilities.<b> In 2019, the number of fires at all manufacturing or processing plants in the country topped 5,300—nearly 15 a day. Additionally, more than 2,000 fires occurred in agricultural, grain and livestock, and refrigerated storage facilities, which could all include food processing operations.</b><br />
&#8230;<br />
While Messerschmidt hopes the focus on these fires will shift away from the conspiracy theories surrounding them, she said there is still value to examining what went wrong in particular incidents.<br />
&#8230;
</p></blockquote>
<p>Any number of factors could be at play, including the proclivity of fire to break out at these plants, supply chain stresses, deferred maintenance, and the possibility of insurance fraud and arson, which is hardly unheard of. We have also seen some high-profile cyberattacks, and the FBI has warned that more could be on the way.</p>
<p>So, while no trend has emerged, it’s still something to keep an eye on, and it continues to cause more stress on an already overburdened domestic food supply system.
</p></blockquote>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2022 04:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I never was a conspiracy theorist five years ago. But now I look at each anomalous event through that lens and most times it comes out to be so.&lt;/i&gt;

I am Spartacus:

Back in the day I was a leftist conspiracy theorist. We called those who argued otherwise &quot;coincidence theorists.&quot;

The leftist conspiracy theory record was, let us say, checkered, though not entirely without merit.

However, the current day when the left is in lockstep behind the FBI, the CIA, the White House, and the New York Times is alien to my old instincts.

Addressing my old comrades, What happened to you, man?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I never was a conspiracy theorist five years ago. But now I look at each anomalous event through that lens and most times it comes out to be so.</i></p>
<p>I am Spartacus:</p>
<p>Back in the day I was a leftist conspiracy theorist. We called those who argued otherwise &#8220;coincidence theorists.&#8221;</p>
<p>The leftist conspiracy theory record was, let us say, checkered, though not entirely without merit.</p>
<p>However, the current day when the left is in lockstep behind the FBI, the CIA, the White House, and the New York Times is alien to my old instincts.</p>
<p>Addressing my old comrades, What happened to you, man?</p>
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