Comments on: For Memorial Day

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Wed, 01 Jun 2022 05:45:30 +0000

I just read this essay by Tim Kowal, and it is very much to the same point that David’s link addressed, at much greater length and with a current example at the heart of its epistemological exegesis.

https://reformclub.blogspot.com/2022/05/you-cannot-make-candace-owens-drink.html

The URL “headline” is just a teaser – the whole thing is serious.

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Tue, 31 May 2022 23:07:02 +0000

Case in point — THERE HE GOES, UNITING THE COUNTRY SOME MORE: Joe Biden to College Graduates: ‘Get Goin’ for God’s Sake’ and Take Back Country from ‘Darkest Forces.’
https://instapundit.com/522953/

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Tue, 31 May 2022 22:55:21 +0000

@ David Foster – thanks for the link to your article.
As one of the commenters noted (in 2013!), referring to the situation in the USA specifically then, but I would extend certainly to Canada, Australia-NZ, and parts of Europe – How is this different from today?

The German dissidents of WW2 were a special study of mine some years ago.
Of course, as the saying goes, “One man’s freedom fighter is another man’s terrorist.”
When the full atrocities of the Nazis were disclosed, The White Rose group and the others of their ilk were rightly placed in the freedom fighter category.
If Hitler had won, that would be different.

Now, many people cast BLM, AntiFa, and (sad to say) most of the Democrat leadership as the freedom fighters, when to our view (which I believe to be correct) they are the domestic terrorists that AG Garland should be arresting.

By: david foster

david foster — Tue, 31 May 2022 19:51:00 +0000

(Link to trial transcript is broken, but you can get a sense of it from the comments)

By: david foster

david foster — Tue, 31 May 2022 19:49:38 +0000

Also related to the White Rose–see my post Deconstructing a Nazi Death Sentence:

https://chicagoboyz.net/archives/35717.html

By: david foster

david foster — Tue, 31 May 2022 19:48:15 +0000

There is a very good 1982 German movie about the White Rose group, titled simply ‘The White Rose’. The 2005 American movie ‘Sophie Scholl” is also pretty good, but the 1982 film is in a class by itself.

Not readily available, but sometimes shows up in VHS form on Ebay.

By: Barry Meislin

Barry Meislin — Tue, 31 May 2022 19:12:31 +0000

Xylourgos, we may be (slightly?) enlightened…but we’re not that (slightly?) enlightened….

Anyway, here’s (more than) something to ponder:
“Tyranny and freedom;
“On Defying Hitler: The White Rose Pamphlets by Alexandra Lloyd.”—
https://newcriterion.com/blogs/dispatch/tyranny-freedom
H/T Powerline blog.

By: david foster

david foster — Tue, 31 May 2022 13:19:32 +0000

The War was in Color:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf29IIQuqYk&t=6s

By: Xylourgos

Xylourgos — Tue, 31 May 2022 07:15:40 +0000

To GB, PA+Cat and the others who were offended by my offensive and ill-timed reference to the link I provided I do sincerely apologize. There is no way I meant to compare the actions of German soldiers to that of American GIs during WWII. The ultimate tragedy for Germany was that there were good boys fighting for an incredibly evil cause. My father flew over the sky of Germany with the RCAF. He was no NAZI sympathizer, and neither am I. Once again, sincere apologies for any offence taken.

By: Geoffrey Britain

Geoffrey Britain — Tue, 31 May 2022 05:08:12 +0000

PA+Cat,

It demanded a response. Nor do I have anything against the German people per se. It’s the Nazi mentality of course that I find offensive. As we’ve sadly learned to our regret, that mentality infests mankind. No society is immune from that virus.