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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/05/11/norman-podhoretz-on-donald-trump-and-ex-friends/#comment-2623105</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[tip o&#039;neil was fairly left on foreign policy, jim wright was worse, same for foley, but he was generally a new deal democrat, which meant mostly sane on cultural and economic issues, the only house speaker that mattered was newt, and you saw how asiduously they worked to replace him with pederast hastert, he wasn&#039;t perfect and he&#039;d readily admit that, Bob Dole was another who didn&#039;t rock the boat, but after frist, lott and co, well they didn&#039;t get very far either,

much like the 1980s pro  Soviet labour party this crew is stark raving mad, and lets their freak flag fly, in every conceivable direction, here in florida we recognize the difference between a putnam and a desantis, bob graham really was the sanest on the other side of the aisle, his caution about the consequences of the iraq war, should really have been taken more into consideration,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tip o&#8217;neil was fairly left on foreign policy, jim wright was worse, same for foley, but he was generally a new deal democrat, which meant mostly sane on cultural and economic issues, the only house speaker that mattered was newt, and you saw how asiduously they worked to replace him with pederast hastert, he wasn&#8217;t perfect and he&#8217;d readily admit that, Bob Dole was another who didn&#8217;t rock the boat, but after frist, lott and co, well they didn&#8217;t get very far either,</p>
<p>much like the 1980s pro  Soviet labour party this crew is stark raving mad, and lets their freak flag fly, in every conceivable direction, here in florida we recognize the difference between a putnam and a desantis, bob graham really was the sanest on the other side of the aisle, his caution about the consequences of the iraq war, should really have been taken more into consideration,</p>
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		By: Severn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Severn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2022 21:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re Reagan vs Trump and their different receptions by the DC Establishment .... several commenters here are living in a fantasy world in which the typical &quot;Republican&quot; and Democrat&quot;  of today are at least roughly comparable to what they were forty years ago.

The truth id that the typical Democrat of Reagans time would be a conservative Republican in todays world. Tip O&#039;Neill was less left-wing than Paul Ryan or Mitt Romney.

The opposition to Trump was political and philosophical, not persona;. The &quot;two parties&quot;, as we persist in calling them, have a single uniform world view, and it is one deeply hostile to the American right, and arguable to the American center as well. The modern GOP is far to the left of the GOP of Reagans day, and is in fact well to the left of the Democratic Party of Reagans day,

Of course admitting that would impose a certain obligation on rank-and-file Republican voters to accept blame for the mess we are in, and start replacing some of the many &quot;RINO&#039;s&quot; n Congress and at the state level across the country. That would be both emotionally painful and a lot of difficult work ... hence the attraction of pretending that the GOP is fundamentally fine and that it was merely &quot;Trump&#039;s character&quot; which created the difficulties.

Republicans voted for Trump in the 206 primary for the very good reason that most of them regarded the typical Republican politician as corrupt and hostile to their interests. They were correct in that assessment and its truth will not change simply by dumping Trump.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re Reagan vs Trump and their different receptions by the DC Establishment &#8230;. several commenters here are living in a fantasy world in which the typical &#8220;Republican&#8221; and Democrat&#8221;  of today are at least roughly comparable to what they were forty years ago.</p>
<p>The truth id that the typical Democrat of Reagans time would be a conservative Republican in todays world. Tip O&#8217;Neill was less left-wing than Paul Ryan or Mitt Romney.</p>
<p>The opposition to Trump was political and philosophical, not persona;. The &#8220;two parties&#8221;, as we persist in calling them, have a single uniform world view, and it is one deeply hostile to the American right, and arguable to the American center as well. The modern GOP is far to the left of the GOP of Reagans day, and is in fact well to the left of the Democratic Party of Reagans day,</p>
<p>Of course admitting that would impose a certain obligation on rank-and-file Republican voters to accept blame for the mess we are in, and start replacing some of the many &#8220;RINO&#8217;s&#8221; n Congress and at the state level across the country. That would be both emotionally painful and a lot of difficult work &#8230; hence the attraction of pretending that the GOP is fundamentally fine and that it was merely &#8220;Trump&#8217;s character&#8221; which created the difficulties.</p>
<p>Republicans voted for Trump in the 206 primary for the very good reason that most of them regarded the typical Republican politician as corrupt and hostile to their interests. They were correct in that assessment and its truth will not change simply by dumping Trump.</p>
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		By: MP Ryan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2022 21:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[God bless Norman. While I can’t quite call myself a Trumpster, I’m sure to encounter a blast furnace of hatred whenever I try to explain my thoughts on him, i.e., that he is a champion of people to whom attention must be paid and hasn’t. (Mr. Podhoretz will of course recognize the allusion to another Brooklyn boy, Arthur Miller.) I still don’t understand the visceral hatred of Donald, especially in comparison to his absurd successor. (The gods must have both a malicious sense of humor and a delicious sense of irony.)

Yes, Mr. Podhoretz, as another Brooklyn boy who grew up on those same streets (well before they became posh), I can readily identify with your thoughts. Our children can’t possibly know what it was to like to navigate those tribal neighborhoods and escape them but take with us many valuable lessons and, yes, even some fond memories.

If this leads anyone to Norman Podhoretz’s writings, I can’t recommend highly enough his “Making It.” “One of the longest journeys in the world is the journey from Brooklyn to Manhattan.” As the cowardly lion would say, “ain’t it da truth, ain’t it da truth.”

I am sorry for your enormous loss, Mr. Podhoretz. May your late wife rest in peace until we all meet again (some of us for the first time).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God bless Norman. While I can’t quite call myself a Trumpster, I’m sure to encounter a blast furnace of hatred whenever I try to explain my thoughts on him, i.e., that he is a champion of people to whom attention must be paid and hasn’t. (Mr. Podhoretz will of course recognize the allusion to another Brooklyn boy, Arthur Miller.) I still don’t understand the visceral hatred of Donald, especially in comparison to his absurd successor. (The gods must have both a malicious sense of humor and a delicious sense of irony.)</p>
<p>Yes, Mr. Podhoretz, as another Brooklyn boy who grew up on those same streets (well before they became posh), I can readily identify with your thoughts. Our children can’t possibly know what it was to like to navigate those tribal neighborhoods and escape them but take with us many valuable lessons and, yes, even some fond memories.</p>
<p>If this leads anyone to Norman Podhoretz’s writings, I can’t recommend highly enough his “Making It.” “One of the longest journeys in the world is the journey from Brooklyn to Manhattan.” As the cowardly lion would say, “ain’t it da truth, ain’t it da truth.”</p>
<p>I am sorry for your enormous loss, Mr. Podhoretz. May your late wife rest in peace until we all meet again (some of us for the first time).</p>
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		By: Wesson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wesson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2022 21:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lance,
So, if the election was today you would not vote for Trump unless his opponent was Hillary. Thus, your vote would de facto go to Biden, Harris or whomever. Do I have that right?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lance,<br />
So, if the election was today you would not vote for Trump unless his opponent was Hillary. Thus, your vote would de facto go to Biden, Harris or whomever. Do I have that right?</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/05/11/norman-podhoretz-on-donald-trump-and-ex-friends/#comment-2623085</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2022 20:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[well many were the ones who could get passed the possums, graham mcconnell and co, you see how they are willing to lavish lucre on ukraine, how they voted for austin, mayorkas, garland and choke the life out of every functioning part of the country, leaving it open to marauders, letting the cities crumble, which tentacle is responsible, omidyar, soros steyer it doesn&#039;t really matter,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well many were the ones who could get passed the possums, graham mcconnell and co, you see how they are willing to lavish lucre on ukraine, how they voted for austin, mayorkas, garland and choke the life out of every functioning part of the country, leaving it open to marauders, letting the cities crumble, which tentacle is responsible, omidyar, soros steyer it doesn&#8217;t really matter,</p>
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		By: Delilah		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Delilah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2022 20:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Trump was elected in 2016 primarily because he was NOT a politician.  Normal Americans were sick of the Clintons, and couldn&#039;t stand Hillary, and sick of a Congress full of people who fail in their Constitutional duty to &quot;REPRESENT&quot; the will of their constituents.  And they voted for Trump because he is a fighter.  A great part of Trump&#039;s fall was because he didn&#039;t recognize the depth of the Deep State Swamp and he didn&#039;t know how to choose and vet good, dedicated, competent people to his Administration]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trump was elected in 2016 primarily because he was NOT a politician.  Normal Americans were sick of the Clintons, and couldn&#8217;t stand Hillary, and sick of a Congress full of people who fail in their Constitutional duty to &#8220;REPRESENT&#8221; the will of their constituents.  And they voted for Trump because he is a fighter.  A great part of Trump&#8217;s fall was because he didn&#8217;t recognize the depth of the Deep State Swamp and he didn&#8217;t know how to choose and vet good, dedicated, competent people to his Administration</p>
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		By: kwteaparty		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/05/11/norman-podhoretz-on-donald-trump-and-ex-friends/#comment-2623066</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kwteaparty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2022 19:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve visited here a few times at Sarah Hoyt&#039;s Instapundit invitation &#038; have always been impressed both by posts, but especially by community&#039;s comments. 

But with all the depression &#038; current bouts of hopelessness, many of your Reagan posts resonated--he was the 1st president I voted for.

So many of your Trump posts today also resonated in my heart. Thank you all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve visited here a few times at Sarah Hoyt&#8217;s Instapundit invitation &amp; have always been impressed both by posts, but especially by community&#8217;s comments. </p>
<p>But with all the depression &amp; current bouts of hopelessness, many of your Reagan posts resonated&#8211;he was the 1st president I voted for.</p>
<p>So many of your Trump posts today also resonated in my heart. Thank you all.</p>
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		By: BrooklynBoy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BrooklynBoy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2022 19:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A lot of Republican supporters register as Democrats if they living in overwhelmingly Blue areas because whoever wins the Democratic primary is almost guaranteed to win the general election, so the feeling is that you can at least have a say in the election so pick the least odious Democrat (best of a bad lot) out there. I changed briefly my party registration from Republican to Democrat so I could vote for Eric Adams in the primary and then quickly re-registered as a Republican.

I agree with Lance, I have had enough of Donald J. Trump and his immature temper tantrums and prefer someone more like DeSantis who fights back but has far more savvy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of Republican supporters register as Democrats if they living in overwhelmingly Blue areas because whoever wins the Democratic primary is almost guaranteed to win the general election, so the feeling is that you can at least have a say in the election so pick the least odious Democrat (best of a bad lot) out there. I changed briefly my party registration from Republican to Democrat so I could vote for Eric Adams in the primary and then quickly re-registered as a Republican.</p>
<p>I agree with Lance, I have had enough of Donald J. Trump and his immature temper tantrums and prefer someone more like DeSantis who fights back but has far more savvy.</p>
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		By: Lance		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lance]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2022 19:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When you&#039;re 92+ you can make broad statements about who should run a world you won&#039;t have to live in. Trump is dangerous because he loves Trump more than he loves America even if it&#039;s true (very well may be) as NPod said that Trump loves America. 
Trump accomplished something that many will be eternally grateful for - he beat Hillary. For that he should be praised. But he&#039;s a bafoon and a boor and shouldn&#039;t be President ever again...Unless Hillary runs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you&#8217;re 92+ you can make broad statements about who should run a world you won&#8217;t have to live in. Trump is dangerous because he loves Trump more than he loves America even if it&#8217;s true (very well may be) as NPod said that Trump loves America.<br />
Trump accomplished something that many will be eternally grateful for &#8211; he beat Hillary. For that he should be praised. But he&#8217;s a bafoon and a boor and shouldn&#8217;t be President ever again&#8230;Unless Hillary runs.</p>
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		By: y81		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[y81]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2022 18:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Unworthy vessel&quot; is mostly an allusion to 2 Cor. 4:7.  The ideas Trump expresses, like the virtues Christians display, have a source much greater than the person displaying them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Unworthy vessel&#8221; is mostly an allusion to 2 Cor. 4:7.  The ideas Trump expresses, like the virtues Christians display, have a source much greater than the person displaying them.</p>
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