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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2022 18:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bob From Virginia:

Often it&#039;s the world that regards them as Jews, rather than the people themselves (who do sometimes call themselves &quot;ethnic Jews&quot;, however).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob From Virginia:</p>
<p>Often it&#8217;s the world that regards them as Jews, rather than the people themselves (who do sometimes call themselves &#8220;ethnic Jews&#8221;, however).</p>
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		By: Bob From Virginia		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/04/27/whatever-happened-to-the-iran-deal/#comment-2621070</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob From Virginia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2022 14:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo and Gordon Scott-with regard to the why Jews vote Democrat-
There may be two factors in play.  The first is that the biggest determinant of our opinions is what our neighbors think.  Most Jews live in traditionally liberal areas so that is one explanation.  The ardently pro-slavery Jews of the confederacy, yes they existed, supports that argument.   The other is that over time the ethnic Jewish identity has been supplanted by identity with the Democratic Party.  The question then is why so many Democrats still regard themselves as Jews?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo and Gordon Scott-with regard to the why Jews vote Democrat-<br />
There may be two factors in play.  The first is that the biggest determinant of our opinions is what our neighbors think.  Most Jews live in traditionally liberal areas so that is one explanation.  The ardently pro-slavery Jews of the confederacy, yes they existed, supports that argument.   The other is that over time the ethnic Jewish identity has been supplanted by identity with the Democratic Party.  The question then is why so many Democrats still regard themselves as Jews?</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/04/27/whatever-happened-to-the-iran-deal/#comment-2620930</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2022 20:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gordon Scott
Ninety percent....  Sixty percent....   Why any percent at all?
Decades ago, in my career, I was associated with an agency which whose management and most staff were Jewish.  They seemed about as rational as anybody I&#039;d ever met.  No wishful thinking.  Up was not down because it made you feel good.  
While I doubt that many of them are still around, I can&#039;t believe their younger like do not exist.
Was I looking at some island of....something or other?  They were Jewish, with some various vocab from the Yiddish, I suppose, in casual conversation, but no obvious signs of observance.
I don&#039;t see them voting dem.  After all, if you judge a candidate by his supporters--as many do--there&#039;s not much to say for a lot of dems.

The influence of the Czarist pogroms on their ancestors, which is said to be a cultural memory driving many Jews leftward, can&#039;t still be a Thing, now, can it?
Their grandparents may have been refused entrance to a country club well within their means. It&#039;s their kids who are being violently attacked by those who are not republicans.  To which do you attach most meaning?

The rural bumpkin stereotype (as republican)  may still be current in a lot of places, but it&#039;s not particularly associated with anti-Semitism, is it?

Said it before, going to be funny/sad when Jews discover their safe spaces are NASCAR events and Baptist churches.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gordon Scott<br />
Ninety percent&#8230;.  Sixty percent&#8230;.   Why any percent at all?<br />
Decades ago, in my career, I was associated with an agency which whose management and most staff were Jewish.  They seemed about as rational as anybody I&#8217;d ever met.  No wishful thinking.  Up was not down because it made you feel good.<br />
While I doubt that many of them are still around, I can&#8217;t believe their younger like do not exist.<br />
Was I looking at some island of&#8230;.something or other?  They were Jewish, with some various vocab from the Yiddish, I suppose, in casual conversation, but no obvious signs of observance.<br />
I don&#8217;t see them voting dem.  After all, if you judge a candidate by his supporters&#8211;as many do&#8211;there&#8217;s not much to say for a lot of dems.</p>
<p>The influence of the Czarist pogroms on their ancestors, which is said to be a cultural memory driving many Jews leftward, can&#8217;t still be a Thing, now, can it?<br />
Their grandparents may have been refused entrance to a country club well within their means. It&#8217;s their kids who are being violently attacked by those who are not republicans.  To which do you attach most meaning?</p>
<p>The rural bumpkin stereotype (as republican)  may still be current in a lot of places, but it&#8217;s not particularly associated with anti-Semitism, is it?</p>
<p>Said it before, going to be funny/sad when Jews discover their safe spaces are NASCAR events and Baptist churches.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2022 16:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;...25th Amendment...&quot;

But what if they&#039;re ALL totally off their rockers?

(Asking the truly important questions....)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;25th Amendment&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>But what if they&#8217;re ALL totally off their rockers?</p>
<p>(Asking the truly important questions&#8230;.)</p>
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		By: Gordon Scott		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/04/27/whatever-happened-to-the-iran-deal/#comment-2620874</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gordon Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2022 16:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Art Deco,
Joe has followed hard left economics since he took office. Bernie is chair of the Senate budget committee, which I suspect makes Pete Domenici roll over in his grave.

I don&#039;t think Pelosi wants Bernie. But such a deal could be struck to get the senate&#039;s Democrats to get in line. There&#039;s also that pesky bit in the 25th Amendment: &quot;Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, . . . &quot;

Can Congress designate an ad hoc committee to judge the president&#039;s fitness? Can they do that without the president signing off on it? 

I think their dream is to somehow ditch Kamala, have Biden appoint Obama, who graciously agrees to serve to unify the country, and then Joe gets the 25th amendment axe. 

They could appoint Stacey Abrams to be VP.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art Deco,<br />
Joe has followed hard left economics since he took office. Bernie is chair of the Senate budget committee, which I suspect makes Pete Domenici roll over in his grave.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Pelosi wants Bernie. But such a deal could be struck to get the senate&#8217;s Democrats to get in line. There&#8217;s also that pesky bit in the 25th Amendment: &#8220;Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, . . . &#8221;</p>
<p>Can Congress designate an ad hoc committee to judge the president&#8217;s fitness? Can they do that without the president signing off on it? </p>
<p>I think their dream is to somehow ditch Kamala, have Biden appoint Obama, who graciously agrees to serve to unify the country, and then Joe gets the 25th amendment axe. </p>
<p>They could appoint Stacey Abrams to be VP.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/04/27/whatever-happened-to-the-iran-deal/#comment-2620873</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2022 16:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[SAYS.IT.ALL:

&quot;Blinken: Iran has plotted to assassinate Pompeo, other top US officials while negotiating nuke deal;
&quot;While U.S. work to deter assassination threats, American negotiators remain at the table in Vienna to work towards a deal.&quot;---
https://justthenews.com/world/foreign-desk/blinken-iran-plotting-assassinate-top-american-officials-while-negotiating-us

Funny thing though: He says it as though it were a bad thing....

(Of course, this is nothing new...since Iran has always admitted that it can&#039;t NOT seek revenge for Soleimani...which means that the real---the TRUTHFUL---headline should be:
&quot;Blinken: WE have continued---and will continue---to negotiate nuke deal with Iran EVEN THOUGH IRAN IS PLOTTING TO ASSASSINATE POMPEO AND OTHER TOP US OFFICIALS...&quot;
There. Fixed it.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SAYS.IT.ALL:</p>
<p>&#8220;Blinken: Iran has plotted to assassinate Pompeo, other top US officials while negotiating nuke deal;<br />
&#8220;While U.S. work to deter assassination threats, American negotiators remain at the table in Vienna to work towards a deal.&#8221;&#8212;<br />
<a href="https://justthenews.com/world/foreign-desk/blinken-iran-plotting-assassinate-top-american-officials-while-negotiating-us" rel="nofollow ugc">https://justthenews.com/world/foreign-desk/blinken-iran-plotting-assassinate-top-american-officials-while-negotiating-us</a></p>
<p>Funny thing though: He says it as though it were a bad thing&#8230;.</p>
<p>(Of course, this is nothing new&#8230;since Iran has always admitted that it can&#8217;t NOT seek revenge for Soleimani&#8230;which means that the real&#8212;the TRUTHFUL&#8212;headline should be:<br />
&#8220;Blinken: WE have continued&#8212;and will continue&#8212;to negotiate nuke deal with Iran EVEN THOUGH IRAN IS PLOTTING TO ASSASSINATE POMPEO AND OTHER TOP US OFFICIALS&#8230;&#8221;<br />
There. Fixed it.)</p>
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		By: fiona		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/04/27/whatever-happened-to-the-iran-deal/#comment-2620858</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fiona]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2022 15:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Admin has a Russia problem.  One aspect of the deal is that the reactors to be built with US money for the Iranians were to be built by the Russians.  Two problems I see:  exposure of Russian tech during Ukraine war reduces the desirability (on the Iranian side) of using their tech even as a booster to Iran&#039;s ability to produce nuclear elements 2) Current relations with Russia may lead to Slow Joe&#039;s masters realizing that public perception would be really bad and therefor the graft would be more difficult.  On the plus side, if they proceed they could re award the contract to the Germans - Oh Wait!  The German greens really wouldn&#039;t be happy about that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Admin has a Russia problem.  One aspect of the deal is that the reactors to be built with US money for the Iranians were to be built by the Russians.  Two problems I see:  exposure of Russian tech during Ukraine war reduces the desirability (on the Iranian side) of using their tech even as a booster to Iran&#8217;s ability to produce nuclear elements 2) Current relations with Russia may lead to Slow Joe&#8217;s masters realizing that public perception would be really bad and therefor the graft would be more difficult.  On the plus side, if they proceed they could re award the contract to the Germans &#8211; Oh Wait!  The German greens really wouldn&#8217;t be happy about that.</p>
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		By: Gordon Scott		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/04/27/whatever-happened-to-the-iran-deal/#comment-2620851</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gordon Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo,
You may be right--probably are right--about the percentages. I&#039;m going on what I know of DFL politics in Minnesota, which has long had overwhelming Jewish support. 

Isn&#039;t the German word &lt;i&gt;fremdschämen, &lt;/i&gt; the feeling of shame for what another has done? I felt that with Jewish support for Ilhan Omar. She&#039;d trot out one antisemitic trope after another, and then the Jewish community in St. Louis Park would have a &quot;listening&quot; meeting with her. 

More or less, the tone was, &quot;Can&#039;t you keep your mouth shut long enough for the check to clear?&quot; This happened multiple times. It was even covered in the Minneapolis &lt;i&gt;Star Tribune,&lt;/i&gt; which is truly adverse to saying anything unpleasant about Omar.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo,<br />
You may be right&#8211;probably are right&#8211;about the percentages. I&#8217;m going on what I know of DFL politics in Minnesota, which has long had overwhelming Jewish support. </p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t the German word <i>fremdschämen, </i> the feeling of shame for what another has done? I felt that with Jewish support for Ilhan Omar. She&#8217;d trot out one antisemitic trope after another, and then the Jewish community in St. Louis Park would have a &#8220;listening&#8221; meeting with her. </p>
<p>More or less, the tone was, &#8220;Can&#8217;t you keep your mouth shut long enough for the check to clear?&#8221; This happened multiple times. It was even covered in the Minneapolis <i>Star Tribune,</i> which is truly adverse to saying anything unpleasant about Omar.</p>
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		By: Miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2022 11:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Biden is a puppet like john gill, many of his appointees were givrn assent by republicans like murkowski and graham the authors of our pain]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biden is a puppet like john gill, many of his appointees were givrn assent by republicans like murkowski and graham the authors of our pain</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2022 10:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Ah, crap, I don’t know. Perhaps they’ll 25th Amendment Joe and Kamala and install Pelosi, who will appoint Bernie to be VP. They get the FBI to arrest enough Republican senators that Bernie is approved. And after that, there is nothing to stop them.&lt;/i&gt;

In order to remove Biden, you&#039;d have to have the assent of Kamala and eight of the fourteen cabinet secretaries.  Jill would have the option to scotch the operation by having her husband sign a statement reclaiming his powers.  Then the matter goes to Congress and you need a 2/3 majority of both chambers to countermand his statement.  You&#039;re going to require the co-operation of the speaker and all four floor leaders and they have to bring enough of their caucuses along to get that supermajority. It&#039;s simple enough if Jill and or Klain do not stand in the way, but if they do, it&#039;s very challenging.  

I do not believe their is a provision for placing the &#039;Acting President&#039; on an involuntary leave of absence.  Our political class took nearly 50 years to address the problem which erupted in 1919-1921 then contrived a procedure which did not actually address it.  

Not sure why you think Pelosi wants Bernie in the VP chair.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Ah, crap, I don’t know. Perhaps they’ll 25th Amendment Joe and Kamala and install Pelosi, who will appoint Bernie to be VP. They get the FBI to arrest enough Republican senators that Bernie is approved. And after that, there is nothing to stop them.</i></p>
<p>In order to remove Biden, you&#8217;d have to have the assent of Kamala and eight of the fourteen cabinet secretaries.  Jill would have the option to scotch the operation by having her husband sign a statement reclaiming his powers.  Then the matter goes to Congress and you need a 2/3 majority of both chambers to countermand his statement.  You&#8217;re going to require the co-operation of the speaker and all four floor leaders and they have to bring enough of their caucuses along to get that supermajority. It&#8217;s simple enough if Jill and or Klain do not stand in the way, but if they do, it&#8217;s very challenging.  </p>
<p>I do not believe their is a provision for placing the &#8216;Acting President&#8217; on an involuntary leave of absence.  Our political class took nearly 50 years to address the problem which erupted in 1919-1921 then contrived a procedure which did not actually address it.  </p>
<p>Not sure why you think Pelosi wants Bernie in the VP chair.</p>
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