Don’t understand the point about Ireland…do you mean anti-Israel attitudes in Ireland itself, or does this involve American evangelicals?

Purported waning of support for Israel among evangelicals…to the extent this is a matter of *young* evangelicals, could perhaps be explained by the spread of lefty ‘the minority group is always right’ attitudes among that age range, overpowering traditional Celtic respect for fighting people.

For instance,
“Today, we see the bureaucrats running our schools with little representation from the actual parents of the students.”

“Today, we see the bureaucrats running our Cabinet offices with little representation from the actual elected President.” (especially 2016-2020)

70% did not want Obama care, 64% are against this, and 72% are against that and yet someone keeps voting for these knuckleheads both R&D…

R’s had two years to just dump O’Care and did nothing. As an old person with health difficulties I see the negative effects of O’Care all the time. The legislation needed to be one line long. No more O’Care, yea or nay.

All would have survived including me as the docs had more ability to actually practice medicine instead of drowning in bureaucratic nonsense.

Today, we see the bureaucrats running our care facilities with little representation from the actual care givers. Why do you think that you still have to mask up as you head into your clinic or hospital? It saddens me to see the care givers giving in to this nonsense.

So frustrating and infuriating. I don’t see much in the way of a way out…

1. As usual, Caroline Glick gets it largely correct. I certainly hope Neo is right about widespread support for Israel among secular Americans. I fear that many college educated people under 50 have been subjected to PC indoctrination throughout their formative years.

2. One curiosity is how the Israeli experience is a magic mirror for supporters as well as enemies – If the US and Europe show conservative Israeli society where woke sexual contortions lead, the Israeli experience provides a reality check of the Marxist mix of false Western guilt and one-world kumbaya fantasy…

This projection is typified by Geoffrey Britain and other saber-rattlers who wish Israel would do what they want done in their neck of the woods…. Talk to them about deporting their own Muslim 5th column and suddenly it’s not so simple, nor is it clear what equilibrium society returns to after such an upheaval.

Currently Israel is experiencing its 2nd wave of *internal* Pali terror – that is, pogron-like attacks by emboldened Arab residents of *pre-67* Israel on their Jewish neighbors.

Just like Oslo-era attacks from Pali-controlled Gaza, Judea, and Samaria destroyed the conceptions of many intellectuals, these attacks shatter the mantra by which many middle-Left Israelis have lived – it goes like this:

“The problem is *those* settlers over *there* and their post 1967 “occupation”, but regular Israeli Arabs are partners in Israeli society and accepted the 1948 partition.” (There is a clear religious/secular subtext to this song that lets mainstream Israelis view themselves as enlightened Westerners and hum John Lennon’s “Imagine” to themselves…)

Yet very few have had sudden revelations or drastic changes of opinion. This is human nature: people’s self-images are bound to certain positions. Like birth pangs, the waves of violence cumulatively work to overtake, destroy, and make untenable previous truths.

As where you live, these changes take time – human time. A significant chunk of society must make a political change similar to Neo’s. The response of the police and army to narrative-upending violence from Israeli Arabs has been confused, unsure, and tentative – reflecting a population slowly surrendering PC illusion for reality. And the institutions always lag the populace.

I sense that some supporters of Israel have a projected, wishful view of Israelis as commandos who can brush aside all the moral and practical considerations that make extreme ethnic cleansing difficult and undesireable. Or that our experiences created wall-to wall clarity and consensus. This is not so.

After each attack my son has interesting discussions with left-leaning guys in his army unit, as various pennies drop. In human time…

Perhaps this grass-roots awakening is accelerated here by our narrow margin of error – too much navel-gazing, and buses start blowing up. But unzombie-ing Left-leaning institutions is the same slow process here as where you live.

I love Netanyahu – but he’s a politician and a patriot, not a prophet.

Stop calling them “Progressives”. Progressives suggests that what they are is, in any possible regard, “Progress”.

This would be like calling the former East Germany by the name it chose for itself: The “German Democratic Republic”. Only a complete imbecile thought it was either Democratic OR a Republic of any sort. You had to be kind of ignorant to not realize that it was a state as close to 1984 as humanity has ever created.

The proper name for them is “PostModern Liberals” (as opposed to “Classical Liberals”, who are at least worthy of some semblance of respect).

CLs are probably less than 5% of all self-identified “Liberals” (they are probably outnumbered by the RINOS who are closer to CLs than most of all liberals are — the real issue with RINOs is how utterly spineless they are, not their ideas).

PostModern Liberalism is — as I have said in this blog’s comments many many times before, a social cancer. Not a figurative one, an actual, literal cancer.

Their aim is to destroy Western Civilization. Every idea, notion, and concept they operate under targets the rational, moral, economic, and any other social basis for Western Civilization. They operate by the Cloward-Piven Strategy of Orchestrated Crisis:

The Strategy was first elucidated in the May 2, 1966 issue of The Nation magazine by a pair of radical socialist Columbia University professors, Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven. David Horowitz summarizes it as:

The strategy of forcing political change through orchestrated crisis. The “Cloward-Piven Strategy” seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.

Cloward and Piven were inspired by radical organizer [and Hillary Clinton mentor] Saul Alinsky:

“Make the enemy live up to their (sic) own book of rules,” Alinsky wrote in his 1989 book Rules for Radicals. When pressed to honor every word of every law and statute, every Judeo-Christian moral tenet, and every implicit promise of the liberal social contract, human agencies inevitably fall short. The system’s failure to “live up” to its rule book can then be used to discredit it altogether, and to replace the capitalist “rule book” with a socialist one.

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Looking back on the last 55+ years of Democratic activity, do things now start making more sense?

September 28, 2008
Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis
By James Simpson
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html

With regard to American support, I think there’s also the underlying assumption/hope (on Israel’s part) that at this point it would be more of the genuine moral and political support/solidarity variety and less of the military sort—though should the latter be required, as in 1973, it would certainly be welcome.

(Also involved is support and cooperation with regard to developing new technologies, e.g., the Iron Dome defensive system, which the US helped fund, and continues to do so. To be sure, significant amounts of the results of these R&D efforts redound to America’s use and benefit.)

The assumption here is PRIMARILY that the chances of a large bust-up between Israel and those who aren’t too happy about its existence WILL, with American support, be discouraged and therefore reduced; even if smaller-scale—and one hopes more “manageable”—conflicts will continue to break out from time to time.

Note that the LAST thing Israel wants is to be destroyed(!) and the SECOND-TO-LAST thing Israel wants is to have to destroy or greatly damage anyone who has is attempting its destruction.

No matter what one may think, Israel would really rather NOT have to do the latter…and the belief/hope/assumption IS that the backing of America would help to discourage (i.e., prevent) such an eventuality….

“Biden” has other plans, however, and is far less (i.e., not even remotely) interested in Israel’s assumptions/hopes than it is with promoting “even-handedness” (AKA being an “honest broker”), “justice” and “peace” in the region.

(Being an “honest-broker” means, in this case, “even-handedly” and “non-judgmentally” weighing Israel’s potential destroyers’ arguments against Israel’s desire to prevent its own destruction…without taking sides(!))

The result is a resumption of Obama’s grand “strategic” “vision” of cutting Israel down to size (“even-handedness”), empowering Iran (AKA “peace” in the region) and encouraging the Palestinians’ maximalist demand (AKA “justice”).

In short: The hell with Israel and its assumptions and hopes.

And so, with such encouragement, is it any mystery why the mini-war between Hamas and Israel broke out last spring (a mere several months after “Biden”‘s “election”) and a renewed round of hostilities has currently exploded?

…or any mystery why a new “deal” with Iran is imminent (though even if it does not “materialize”, the “mullahs” have been extensively empowered)?

“Biden” is indeed the gift that never stops giving…

The question (rhetorical, albeit) is, “gift for whom?”….