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		By: Kurt		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kurt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2022 02:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll cast another vote for the Horowitz performance.  I might have appreciated Rubinstein more if there had been accompanying video, but, not really knowing the piece, just in listening to it, I found Horowitz captured my interest in a way that the others did not.  On re-listening, Rubinstein sounds like it is probably technically perfect, but it also sounds a little too earnest and like he&#039;s trying too hard.  By contrast, the Lang Lang version seems like he&#039;s barely trying and like he is just showing off.   There&#039;s something more natural and flowing about Horowitz&#039;s rendition.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll cast another vote for the Horowitz performance.  I might have appreciated Rubinstein more if there had been accompanying video, but, not really knowing the piece, just in listening to it, I found Horowitz captured my interest in a way that the others did not.  On re-listening, Rubinstein sounds like it is probably technically perfect, but it also sounds a little too earnest and like he&#8217;s trying too hard.  By contrast, the Lang Lang version seems like he&#8217;s barely trying and like he is just showing off.   There&#8217;s something more natural and flowing about Horowitz&#8217;s rendition.</p>
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		By: Michael R Penney		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael R Penney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2022 11:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Horowitz is the best performance I have heard.  Listen to it a few times a year.  Never approached that level of delicacy on the keys when I was taking lessons.  Brilliant pianist.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Horowitz is the best performance I have heard.  Listen to it a few times a year.  Never approached that level of delicacy on the keys when I was taking lessons.  Brilliant pianist.</p>
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		By: Lee Merrick		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lee Merrick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2022 14:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I saw Rubinstein in concert in 1966.  No Chopin, but he played Beethoven’s 4th piano concerto and Brahms’ 2nd concerto.  Two major works in the same evening - unheard of!  And memorable!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw Rubinstein in concert in 1966.  No Chopin, but he played Beethoven’s 4th piano concerto and Brahms’ 2nd concerto.  Two major works in the same evening &#8211; unheard of!  And memorable!</p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rufus T. Firefly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2022 14:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jimmy,

I absolutely agree. And what&#039;s wrong with &quot;playful and delightful?&quot; How many humans who&#039;ve walked the earth have provided so much delight to so many?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmy,</p>
<p>I absolutely agree. And what&#8217;s wrong with &#8220;playful and delightful?&#8221; How many humans who&#8217;ve walked the earth have provided so much delight to so many?</p>
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		By: Jimmy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jimmy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2022 05:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I saw a Rubinstein recital in 1976 when he was 89. A full two-hour recital including Chopin and Beethoven, plus some encores. He is usually my reliable go-to for Chopin, but I prefer others, usually Russians like Gilels or Richter for Beethoven and other composers. I admired Horowitz but can&#039;t think of any piece for which he&#039;s my favorite, except his incredible arrangement of &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uNh3Um7LaM&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;Stars and Stripes Forever&lt;/a&gt;.

And TJ, I&#039;m afraid you&#039;re wrong about Mozart. Gould wasn&#039;t being entirely serious, just provocative, and even he said he greatly admired Mozart&#039;s younger (in his 20s) works. And he made a very good recording of the C minor piano concerto. &quot;[S]o much of his output consists of juvenilia — playful and delightful, but simple in unadorned and, flat out, not that interesting.&quot;? Check out &quot;Marriage of Figaro&quot; or &quot;Don Giovanni&quot; and get back to me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw a Rubinstein recital in 1976 when he was 89. A full two-hour recital including Chopin and Beethoven, plus some encores. He is usually my reliable go-to for Chopin, but I prefer others, usually Russians like Gilels or Richter for Beethoven and other composers. I admired Horowitz but can&#8217;t think of any piece for which he&#8217;s my favorite, except his incredible arrangement of <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uNh3Um7LaM" rel="nofollow ugc">Stars and Stripes Forever</a>.</p>
<p>And TJ, I&#8217;m afraid you&#8217;re wrong about Mozart. Gould wasn&#8217;t being entirely serious, just provocative, and even he said he greatly admired Mozart&#8217;s younger (in his 20s) works. And he made a very good recording of the C minor piano concerto. &#8220;[S]o much of his output consists of juvenilia — playful and delightful, but simple in unadorned and, flat out, not that interesting.&#8221;? Check out &#8220;Marriage of Figaro&#8221; or &#8220;Don Giovanni&#8221; and get back to me.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2022 04:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wendy Laubach:

I do indeed like Prokofiev&#039;s R&amp;J very much.  But for me, it&#039;s not quite up there with the others.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wendy Laubach:</p>
<p>I do indeed like Prokofiev&#8217;s R&#038;J very much.  But for me, it&#8217;s not quite up there with the others.</p>
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		By: Mac		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2022 03:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not exactly on topic, but on the matter of attempting to learn an instrument more or less on one&#039;s own: I have been fiddling with the guitar since I was 15 or so, and I had some lessons around that age that taught me the rudiments of reading music, but I never worked at any of it consistently or tried very hard to get better. Around age 30 I had sort of accidentally come into possession of a nylon-string (classical style) guitar, and picked up a book of easy classical guitar pieces. I worked fairly hard at mastering the first one (don&#039;t remember what it was) and thought I had it reasonable well. 

So one night I say to my wife, who as a high school band member knows how to read music, &quot;Listen to this&quot; and she stands behind me while I play it, from the book because I haven&#039;t memorized it. I finish and she says &quot;Well, that&#039;s very pretty, but it&#039;s not what&#039;s written on that page.&quot; It seems my rudimentary reading was enough to get the right notes, but I was pretty much mangling their time values. 

Well, it sounded good to me. I still can&#039;t follow written music--it tells me what notes to play, but I have to get the timing from a recording. 

I don&#039;t know Chopin&#039;s music well at all. Not entirely my cup of tea. But I did like Rubinstein better than Lang.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not exactly on topic, but on the matter of attempting to learn an instrument more or less on one&#8217;s own: I have been fiddling with the guitar since I was 15 or so, and I had some lessons around that age that taught me the rudiments of reading music, but I never worked at any of it consistently or tried very hard to get better. Around age 30 I had sort of accidentally come into possession of a nylon-string (classical style) guitar, and picked up a book of easy classical guitar pieces. I worked fairly hard at mastering the first one (don&#8217;t remember what it was) and thought I had it reasonable well. </p>
<p>So one night I say to my wife, who as a high school band member knows how to read music, &#8220;Listen to this&#8221; and she stands behind me while I play it, from the book because I haven&#8217;t memorized it. I finish and she says &#8220;Well, that&#8217;s very pretty, but it&#8217;s not what&#8217;s written on that page.&#8221; It seems my rudimentary reading was enough to get the right notes, but I was pretty much mangling their time values. </p>
<p>Well, it sounded good to me. I still can&#8217;t follow written music&#8211;it tells me what notes to play, but I have to get the timing from a recording. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know Chopin&#8217;s music well at all. Not entirely my cup of tea. But I did like Rubinstein better than Lang.</p>
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		By: Wendy Laubach		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wendy Laubach]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2022 03:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am in entire sympathy with your list of favorites but--no Prokofiev?  There is some ravishing Prokofiev, especially Romeo and Juliet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in entire sympathy with your list of favorites but&#8211;no Prokofiev?  There is some ravishing Prokofiev, especially Romeo and Juliet.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2022 02:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I did sign up for an online piano course called Piano Superhuman. The teacher brings an infectious enthusiasm to the task plus he&#039;s done a lot of out-of-the-box thinking.

https://www.bestpianoclass.com/dashboard/the-best-piano-theory-course-for-beginners/piano-superhuman-overview/

Some of his students do quite well. I didn&#039;t stop because his lessons were bad, but it just took more time than I was willing to spend.

I imagined the vast stretches of leisure which would open up for me in retirement. But it&#039;s only so much. I am pushing ahead on math, programming and chess -- any one of which could be a full-time pursuit.

--Clint Eastwood, &quot;A man&#039;s got to know his limitations.&quot;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG2cux_6Rcw]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did sign up for an online piano course called Piano Superhuman. The teacher brings an infectious enthusiasm to the task plus he&#8217;s done a lot of out-of-the-box thinking.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.bestpianoclass.com/dashboard/the-best-piano-theory-course-for-beginners/piano-superhuman-overview/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.bestpianoclass.com/dashboard/the-best-piano-theory-course-for-beginners/piano-superhuman-overview/</a></p>
<p>Some of his students do quite well. I didn&#8217;t stop because his lessons were bad, but it just took more time than I was willing to spend.</p>
<p>I imagined the vast stretches of leisure which would open up for me in retirement. But it&#8217;s only so much. I am pushing ahead on math, programming and chess &#8212; any one of which could be a full-time pursuit.</p>
<p>&#8211;Clint Eastwood, &#8220;A man&#8217;s got to know his limitations.&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG2cux_6Rcw" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG2cux_6Rcw</a></p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2022 00:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A few years ago I bought a Yamaha P-71 for $430. It had 88 keys and weighted-action, meaning it was a reasonable simulation of a real piano.

I figured I would either stick with practicing or I wouldn&#039;t. But either way I would have a piano in the living room like Americans of yore, which wouldn&#039;t be a bad thing. 

Well, I stuck with the Minuet in G and some basic beginners books plus a few stabs at Satie&#039;s 1st Gymnopedie for a couple months, but with pressure from my college courses and general discouragement -- it&#039;s plain hard to get ten fingers to do different things at the same time -- I&#039;ve let my keyboard lie for the time being.

I may get back to it. Or perhaps some enchanted evening a guest will step up to the keys and thrill me with miracles of Bach or Beethoven or Satie.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few years ago I bought a Yamaha P-71 for $430. It had 88 keys and weighted-action, meaning it was a reasonable simulation of a real piano.</p>
<p>I figured I would either stick with practicing or I wouldn&#8217;t. But either way I would have a piano in the living room like Americans of yore, which wouldn&#8217;t be a bad thing. </p>
<p>Well, I stuck with the Minuet in G and some basic beginners books plus a few stabs at Satie&#8217;s 1st Gymnopedie for a couple months, but with pressure from my college courses and general discouragement &#8212; it&#8217;s plain hard to get ten fingers to do different things at the same time &#8212; I&#8217;ve let my keyboard lie for the time being.</p>
<p>I may get back to it. Or perhaps some enchanted evening a guest will step up to the keys and thrill me with miracles of Bach or Beethoven or Satie.</p>
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