Comments on: Looking back: remember that debate between Romney and Obama about Russia?

By: neo

neo — Fri, 08 Apr 2022 04:38:17 +0000

BrooklynBoy: I don't know whether you were reading this blog yet when that 2012 debate happened where Candy Crowley intervened to help Obama. But you might be interested in my take on it at the time, here and here.

By: BrooklynBoy

BrooklynBoy — Fri, 08 Apr 2022 00:07:13 +0000

Neo
Yes, I made a typo and forgot to proof read.

By: BrooklynBoy

BrooklynBoy — Fri, 08 Apr 2022 00:06:05 +0000

The problem with Romney‘s campaign amongst many others was that like George W. Bush he was a punching bag and would never fight back. The first debate which was October 3, 2012 he turned in a magnificent performance. He seemed calm, intelligent, well spoken, and presidential. Chris Matthews of MSNBC was apoplectic about how out debated Obama was. The next debate was the presidential debate and the talking head Paul Ryan allowed Joe Biden to just ridicule him while Eraser Head Ryan droned on about “Dodd Frank“. The next debate that Romney and Obama had, Obama had Candy Crowley run interference for him.

By: neo

neo — Wed, 09 Mar 2022 20:34:53 +0000

BrooklynBoy: The quote is not what you say it is, although close. It is this:

By: BrooklynBoy

BrooklynBoy — Wed, 09 Mar 2022 15:34:42 +0000

Obama’s snarky reply was “the 1970s called they want their foreign policy back”.

By: neo

neo — Wed, 09 Mar 2022 05:25:11 +0000

Rufus T. Firefly:

I remembered that line of Obama’s, all right. But in my case, I remembered it not only because it seemed planned in advance, but because it was puerile and snarky and sounded like something from “Wayne’s World”.

By: R2L

R2L — Wed, 09 Mar 2022 04:28:28 +0000

It turns out to be a good thing that the news media providing us a view into the situation is able to find so many local people who speak English. They don’t have to rely on translators, who may be unavailable, inaccurate, or have their own agenda. And that some of these people can and do go on line to provide a “straight scoop”, per om’s example above. A great many more eyes and ears allowed to see and hear what is happening – unusual until recently with cell phones, etc. Still requires skepticism in what we view, but beneficial overall.

If we were to allow Russian news people free rein here to interview people [and I suspect that we do, but … ], they would find very few who can speak Russian or Ukrainian, by comparison. [setting aside the Russian media being so controlled to maintain a pro-Russian message.]

By: om

om — Wed, 09 Mar 2022 04:06:23 +0000

A personal view from Poland; how Poles are responding. They remember. Poland is not a rich country either.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CGzFbzZI2TU

The Eastern European prospective. Vlad’s paranoia and despotism has a human cost Geoffrey.

By: Rufus T. Firefly

Rufus T. Firefly — Wed, 09 Mar 2022 03:28:51 +0000

When I look at the debate footage it seems very much like a prepared line from Obama. I’d bet $100 that it was scripted for him in advance and he was told to work it in if possible. When you watch how Obama delivers it and right after Obama seems a bit directionless, unsure what to say next. It does not appear off the cuff at all.

And it is a good line. We all remember it.

By: WhoStruckJohn

WhoStruckJohn — Wed, 09 Mar 2022 01:19:03 +0000

It’s too bad McCain isn’t alive for his apology. He once said that the only thing he saw when he looked in Putin’s eyes was three letters: K G B. He was right.