So, I invite any of those Democrats who don’t believe the election was stolen to play me in a hand of draw poker, wagering their house against mine. But, I get to play by their “Democrat party election rules”! After they have revealed their cards, they will be forcibly removed from the room for a short while. When they are allowed to return to the room, they will see I have the winning hand. And, by their own statements, since they didn’t actually see any cheating, then there wasn’t any cheating! And then they can hand over the title to their house. I am serious about this.

Rusty

Occam’s razor is a rule of thumb, not a provider of correct answers.

The problem here is that you — and all the quacks and charlatans making pretty much the same points — are missing is that elections should be sacrosanct..

If they are unreliable, then that’s a major problem in a democracy.

America USED to be a “high trust society”. The left has succeeded in eroding that high trust and it is now a fairly low trust society.

Banana-Republic grade election processes do not improve this.

}}} but if the evidence was even close to as incontrovertible as stop the steal folks think it is,

I have zero belief that it wasn’t stolen. There are too many of the key pointers to the result which were magically wrong — the bellweather counties which are consistently right? Almost all wrong (19 out of 20, iirc). The bellweather states which are consistently right? Almost all wrong (90%, iirc). Biden could not get 50 people to turn out for his rallies, but somehow gets better turnout at the polls than ANY PRESIDENT IN HISTORY? This seems improbable. The election mostly came down to about 4-5 democratically-run CITIES, and those cities violated — repeatedly — different election rules for their OWN STATES**, but nothing was done about this. This included the destruction of ballots after 2-3 months in states where LAWS require them to be held for 6 months.

THEN there is/was the rather massive amount of clearly documented “hinky” events going on in those exact same venues on election night, “after hours”, “after closing” and “after everyone was sent home — PARTICULARLY OBSERVERS”

Then there’s this:
The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election
https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

Sorry, simply reading between the lines — the people who wrote that clearly and indisputably felt justified in doing anything they thought they could get away with to subvert the results of the election.

Any single one of these things — even a couple, or a few, put together — would not be objective evidence that the election was a sham.

All together, however — NO

Occam’s Razor — particularly combined with the crowing article from Time — says the election was scammed. No, it is almost certainly impossible to prove.

The reason why it wasn’t provable had far more to do with the deliberate obfuscation and refusal of the courts to sequester any evidence that might have been analyzed to demonstrate that. In Particular — the notion that state attorneys don’t have “standing” to charge that other states did not follow their own laws in the elections, which made the results highly questionable to anyone actually observing is preposterous.

The whole position of the court appears to be that the only people who “have standing” to challenge the results of an election are the very same people who would have been rigging it all along. That is not how elections WORK.

EVERY AMERICAN VOTER has “standing” to challenge the results of an election. This is inherently obvious, or the elections are an utter sham… The various actors acting on their behalf, as representatives — particularly State Attorneys — therefore have standing by collective assent. And such clearly offer a reasonable alternative to everyone filing their own lawsuits, or even collective “class action” suits by attorneys.

It will never be proven, but Occam’s Razor says it was almost certainly a broken, corrupted, and invalid election result. There are far far far too many pointers to the fact that Biden was not going to win to rationally come to any other conclusion.

The notion that Occam’s Razor says such would have been proven by now is ridiculous, when the very ones doing the cheating had open and unrestricted access to any and all the evidence that might have been used to prove they had cheated, for at LEAST two whole months before any of it was actually constrained.

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** BTW, fun part? When people tried to challenge the changes before the election, they were told that they had to wait until the election to challenge them.

THEN, once the election had occurred, they were told “they lacked standing”… and “besides, it’s too late to challenge it now.”.

Ya, right. Again, yet another plank tilting Occam’s Razor in ONE DIRECTION.

You see, the problem here is that you’re thinking Occam’s Razor as being a razor. It’s more of a scale. And when you put all the “Scammed election” on one side, and all the “not a scammed election” on the other side, then kick the retailers out of place, that fucker falls down on the “scammed election” side so hard and fast it breaks the whole mechanism.

:-/

The best description yet of the 2020 election I’ve seen.

WHAT?

Not what the comment was referring to?

OK, so what? It’s still “The best description yet of the 2020 election I’ve seen.”
😀

Seems that poor, misguided John Solomon FEELS he has the right to tweet about a peer-reviewed study that CONTRADICTS the government.

What planet does he think he’s living on?

(Truly, if he had first consulted Occam, he probably would NOT have made such an absurd mistake in judgment…NOR sacrificed his hard-earned integrity….)

Occam’s razor can be our friend in these situations.

Losing elections is not fun. But if i were you I’d be feeling pretty saucy right now The GOP will most likely own Congress after this election, and Donald Trump is the odds on favorite to retake the Presidency on 2024.

Bill, the Republicans really have to get on their game.

I wish they had applied the same reasoning to Mueller’s investigation of President Trump.

It’s amazing (not surprising) to me how much evidence keeps turning up that validates Trump’s “baseless accusations” about election fraud – maybe not fraudulent votes exactly* (although there were certainly some), but the general lawlessness and unethical-even-if-legal (because of Democrat legislation) events that keep getting unmasked.

And I use that last word deliberately, because the Science can change for elections as fast as it did for Covid.

*”Exactly” is now the standard for rating claims of Republicans, according to Politifact.

https://notthebee.com/article/politifact-fact-checks-the-claim-that-the-us-doubled-russian-oil-imports-last-year-as-mostly-false-while-admitting-its-completely-true

The article is long and convoluted. But you can tell by reading it that they came to their conclusion first before doing any research at all.

The latest data from the EIA doesn’t back [Bartiromo] up. The U.S. increased its Russian oil imports by about 28% last year. That’s a notable increase, but it’s not double.

Bartiromo has more of a point when looking at only crude oil imported from Russia in 2021, which has more than doubled. But Russia accounted for about 3% of overall U.S. crude oil imports in 2021 — a 2 percentage point increase from 2020.

We rate this claim Mostly False.

They rated the claim “Mostly False” because it’s 100% true and they didn’t like the implications.