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		By: Cappy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2022 17:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This one had my mom in stitches.]]></description>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/02/23/open-thread-2-23-22/#comment-2609245</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2022 20:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ huxley &#062; &quot;We, the new, the nameless, &lt;b&gt;the hard-to-understand&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

Nietzsche got that last part right.
We were looking through our bookshelves just last night (before I read this thread) and spotted our copies of &quot;Zarathustra&quot; in German and English, still unread after several decades, and jointly determined that (at 70) life was now too short to bother reading them.

Share anything of interest that you find, though; I don&#039;t have to read something to have an opinion on it!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ huxley &gt; &#8220;We, the new, the nameless, <b>the hard-to-understand&#8221;</b></p>
<p>Nietzsche got that last part right.<br />
We were looking through our bookshelves just last night (before I read this thread) and spotted our copies of &#8220;Zarathustra&#8221; in German and English, still unread after several decades, and jointly determined that (at 70) life was now too short to bother reading them.</p>
<p>Share anything of interest that you find, though; I don&#8217;t have to read something to have an opinion on it!</p>
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		By: JohnTyler		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2022 14:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In the 2008 HBO mini-series,  &quot;John Adams,&quot;  there is a segment where some children and parents are purposefully given the pox virus as a &quot;vaccine&quot; against small pox. The segment depicts them all getting real sick, but they all survive. 

Recall that John Adams was the second president of the USA .

That series also showed folks washing down their wooden floors with vinegar as a disinfectant.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the 2008 HBO mini-series,  &#8220;John Adams,&#8221;  there is a segment where some children and parents are purposefully given the pox virus as a &#8220;vaccine&#8221; against small pox. The segment depicts them all getting real sick, but they all survive. </p>
<p>Recall that John Adams was the second president of the USA .</p>
<p>That series also showed folks washing down their wooden floors with vinegar as a disinfectant.</p>
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		By: Zaphod		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/02/23/open-thread-2-23-22/#comment-2609146</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2022 05:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Showtime!

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/separatist-leaders-issue-formal-request-russian-army-repel-ukrainian-aggression

Let&#039;s not have too much hand-wringing and virtue-signaling. It&#039;s about time rotten Western Elites saw some Reality they can&#039;t just wave hands and pretend doesn&#039;t exist.

LIVE MULTI-CAM: EXPLOSIONS NEAR KIEV - UKRAINE/RUSSIA/DONETSK/LUHANSK + TWITTER FEEDS/NEWS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncfpk4OFkXE]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Showtime!</p>
<p><a href="https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/separatist-leaders-issue-formal-request-russian-army-repel-ukrainian-aggression" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/separatist-leaders-issue-formal-request-russian-army-repel-ukrainian-aggression</a></p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not have too much hand-wringing and virtue-signaling. It&#8217;s about time rotten Western Elites saw some Reality they can&#8217;t just wave hands and pretend doesn&#8217;t exist.</p>
<p>LIVE MULTI-CAM: EXPLOSIONS NEAR KIEV &#8211; UKRAINE/RUSSIA/DONETSK/LUHANSK + TWITTER FEEDS/NEWS<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncfpk4OFkXE" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncfpk4OFkXE</a></p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/02/23/open-thread-2-23-22/#comment-2609135</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2022 03:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;...genius level creativity has gone downhill since the invention of Sulphanomides and Penicillin.&lt;/i&gt;

Zaphod:

Perhaps. Though in general I note that we no longer seem to have the wealth of Cult-Level Intellectuals offered by the 20th C.

I think people were eventually vaccinated (ahem) against Genius Guys boldly pointing The Way to the Future.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;genius level creativity has gone downhill since the invention of Sulphanomides and Penicillin.</i></p>
<p>Zaphod:</p>
<p>Perhaps. Though in general I note that we no longer seem to have the wealth of Cult-Level Intellectuals offered by the 20th C.</p>
<p>I think people were eventually vaccinated (ahem) against Genius Guys boldly pointing The Way to the Future.</p>
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		By: Zaphod		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2022 03:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Huxley:

&quot;As I sometimes slot things, the three models Westerners have to choose from come down to Judeo-Christianity, Scientific Materialism or Nietzschean self-creation.&quot;

Can I get a refund?

That being said, I&#039;d pay good money to see you do a TED Talk explaining to the Trannies that they&#039;re mostly Fun House Mirror Nietzcheans.

I guess my politics are more Procrustean than Protean, but for sure am no kind of Scientific Materialist Devil.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Huxley:</p>
<p>&#8220;As I sometimes slot things, the three models Westerners have to choose from come down to Judeo-Christianity, Scientific Materialism or Nietzschean self-creation.&#8221;</p>
<p>Can I get a refund?</p>
<p>That being said, I&#8217;d pay good money to see you do a TED Talk explaining to the Trannies that they&#8217;re mostly Fun House Mirror Nietzcheans.</p>
<p>I guess my politics are more Procrustean than Protean, but for sure am no kind of Scientific Materialist Devil.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2022 03:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Thus spake Zarathustra. And at that time he abode in the town
which is called The Pied Cow.&lt;/i&gt;

Zaphod:

Close enough!

Oh, &quot;Thus Spake&quot; is better than the average book. But then I like the mad writers and the high writers.

Nietzsche was big. As I sometimes slot things, the three models Westerners have to choose from come down to Judeo-Christianity, Scientific Materialism or Nietzschean self-creation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Thus spake Zarathustra. And at that time he abode in the town<br />
which is called The Pied Cow.</i></p>
<p>Zaphod:</p>
<p>Close enough!</p>
<p>Oh, &#8220;Thus Spake&#8221; is better than the average book. But then I like the mad writers and the high writers.</p>
<p>Nietzsche was big. As I sometimes slot things, the three models Westerners have to choose from come down to Judeo-Christianity, Scientific Materialism or Nietzschean self-creation.</p>
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		By: Zaphod		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2022 03:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Huxley:

I&#039;m kind of a broken record on this topic (no... not the Joos... Syphilis):

The good old Spirochetes likely did a bit to liven up Nietzsche&#039;s creativity as he aged. As they did for the likes of Schubert and Maupassant amongst many others.

Can&#039;t remember where I first read it but someone pointed out that genius level creativity has gone downhill since the invention of Sulphanomides and Penicillin. Seems not wrong.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Huxley:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m kind of a broken record on this topic (no&#8230; not the Joos&#8230; Syphilis):</p>
<p>The good old Spirochetes likely did a bit to liven up Nietzsche&#8217;s creativity as he aged. As they did for the likes of Schubert and Maupassant amongst many others.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t remember where I first read it but someone pointed out that genius level creativity has gone downhill since the invention of Sulphanomides and Penicillin. Seems not wrong.</p>
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		By: Zaphod		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/02/23/open-thread-2-23-22/#comment-2609129</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2022 03:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Huxley:

&quot;Someone recommends a book, you like what you hear, you order the book and then you start reading?&quot;

Pretty much like that. Otherwise I&#039;d just keep reading more of the same, no? Of course if I don&#039;t like what I hear, I retaliate disproportionately with cruise missiles.

Which reminds me is there a book you can recommend along the lines of &quot;No, you&#039;re not Caspar Weinberger. Relax!&quot;

I think the point with Nietzsche is that he figured out that Western Thought had a gigantic boil on its behind in dire need of lancing. Not entirely convinced that he was the go to guy for reconstructive surgery.

Can&#039;t remember if it&#039;s in Zarathustra or not because been a long time... still I think memory not playing me false here... but any buke with:

(a) a village called The Spotted Cow

and

(b) describing a young child as a Self-propelling Wheel

is better than the average book.

I woudln&#039;t go quite so far as to call Ezra Pound the Ariel Sharon of Literary Critics, but it&#039;s fun to read his pithy diatribes against Anthologists for leaving this or that out and putting other dross in. For someone who grew up with a parental bookshelf of F R Leavis nonsense crit... bliss.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Huxley:</p>
<p>&#8220;Someone recommends a book, you like what you hear, you order the book and then you start reading?&#8221;</p>
<p>Pretty much like that. Otherwise I&#8217;d just keep reading more of the same, no? Of course if I don&#8217;t like what I hear, I retaliate disproportionately with cruise missiles.</p>
<p>Which reminds me is there a book you can recommend along the lines of &#8220;No, you&#8217;re not Caspar Weinberger. Relax!&#8221;</p>
<p>I think the point with Nietzsche is that he figured out that Western Thought had a gigantic boil on its behind in dire need of lancing. Not entirely convinced that he was the go to guy for reconstructive surgery.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t remember if it&#8217;s in Zarathustra or not because been a long time&#8230; still I think memory not playing me false here&#8230; but any buke with:</p>
<p>(a) a village called The Spotted Cow</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>(b) describing a young child as a Self-propelling Wheel</p>
<p>is better than the average book.</p>
<p>I woudln&#8217;t go quite so far as to call Ezra Pound the Ariel Sharon of Literary Critics, but it&#8217;s fun to read his pithy diatribes against Anthologists for leaving this or that out and putting other dross in. For someone who grew up with a parental bookshelf of F R Leavis nonsense crit&#8230; bliss.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2022 02:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Zaphod:

Let&#039;s see if I&#039;ve got this straight. 

Someone recommends a book, you like what you hear, you order the book and then you start reading?

You are a strange lad! 

Maybe it will catch on.

Latenightways I&#039;ve been reading &quot;Thus Spake Zarathustra.&quot; I tried to read it in high school and had no idea where the book was coming from. Now I find it rather funny. I imagine N. pounding the table and roaring about GREAT HEALTHINESS! 

Clearly Nietzsche was mad or high on top-shelf stimulants.
___________________________

&lt;i&gt;We, the new, the nameless, the hard-to-understand, we 
firstlings of a yet untried future--we require for a new
end also a new means, namely, a new healthiness, stronger,
sharper, tougher, bolder and merrier than all healthiness hitherto.
He whose soul longeth to experience the whole range of hitherto
recognised values and desirabilities, and to circumnavigate all the
coasts of this ideal &#039;Mediterranean Sea&#039;, who, from the adventures
of his most personal experience, wants to know how it feels to be a
conqueror, and discoverer of the ideal--as likewise how it is with
the artist, the saint, the legislator, the sage, the scholar, the
devotee, the prophet, and the godly non-conformist of the old
style:--requires one thing above all for that purpose, GREAT
HEALTHINESS--such healthiness as one not only possesses, but
also constantly acquires and must acquire, because one
unceasingly sacrifices it again, and must sacrifice it!

--Friedrich Nietzsche, &quot;Thus Spake Zarahthustra&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
___________________________

I understand that Nietzsche wouldn&#039;t have looked ahead at Hitler and Nazis and said, &quot;There. That. That&#039;s the Man and the Movement.&quot; 

But the more casual onlooker who connected the dots between the three wouldn&#039;t have been off-base.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zaphod:</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see if I&#8217;ve got this straight. </p>
<p>Someone recommends a book, you like what you hear, you order the book and then you start reading?</p>
<p>You are a strange lad! </p>
<p>Maybe it will catch on.</p>
<p>Latenightways I&#8217;ve been reading &#8220;Thus Spake Zarathustra.&#8221; I tried to read it in high school and had no idea where the book was coming from. Now I find it rather funny. I imagine N. pounding the table and roaring about GREAT HEALTHINESS! </p>
<p>Clearly Nietzsche was mad or high on top-shelf stimulants.<br />
___________________________</p>
<p><i>We, the new, the nameless, the hard-to-understand, we<br />
firstlings of a yet untried future&#8211;we require for a new<br />
end also a new means, namely, a new healthiness, stronger,<br />
sharper, tougher, bolder and merrier than all healthiness hitherto.<br />
He whose soul longeth to experience the whole range of hitherto<br />
recognised values and desirabilities, and to circumnavigate all the<br />
coasts of this ideal &#8216;Mediterranean Sea&#8217;, who, from the adventures<br />
of his most personal experience, wants to know how it feels to be a<br />
conqueror, and discoverer of the ideal&#8211;as likewise how it is with<br />
the artist, the saint, the legislator, the sage, the scholar, the<br />
devotee, the prophet, and the godly non-conformist of the old<br />
style:&#8211;requires one thing above all for that purpose, GREAT<br />
HEALTHINESS&#8211;such healthiness as one not only possesses, but<br />
also constantly acquires and must acquire, because one<br />
unceasingly sacrifices it again, and must sacrifice it!</p>
<p>&#8211;Friedrich Nietzsche, &#8220;Thus Spake Zarahthustra&#8221;</i><br />
___________________________</p>
<p>I understand that Nietzsche wouldn&#8217;t have looked ahead at Hitler and Nazis and said, &#8220;There. That. That&#8217;s the Man and the Movement.&#8221; </p>
<p>But the more casual onlooker who connected the dots between the three wouldn&#8217;t have been off-base.</p>
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