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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/02/19/the-missing-j/#comment-2608741</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2022 01:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gerald, thanks for sharing your insight.  Any other cheery thoughts old boy?  

DNW was angry, your excuse?

Have a good day.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gerald, thanks for sharing your insight.  Any other cheery thoughts old boy?  </p>
<p>DNW was angry, your excuse?</p>
<p>Have a good day.</p>
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		By: Gerard Van der Leun		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/02/19/the-missing-j/#comment-2608735</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerard Van der Leun]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2022 01:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot; It always perturbs me to find a relative about whom all I can glean are birthdate, marriage date, names of children, and death date – an entire life neatly encapsulated and researched in just a few minutes. &quot;


Among what is known as &quot;old money&quot; it was an axiom that a proper woman only got her name in the newspapers three times: At birth, at marriage, and at death.  Anything more was looked upon as quite louche. And the rituals of the upper classes in America always (until recently) tended to drift down.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; It always perturbs me to find a relative about whom all I can glean are birthdate, marriage date, names of children, and death date – an entire life neatly encapsulated and researched in just a few minutes. &#8221;</p>
<p>Among what is known as &#8220;old money&#8221; it was an axiom that a proper woman only got her name in the newspapers three times: At birth, at marriage, and at death.  Anything more was looked upon as quite louche. And the rituals of the upper classes in America always (until recently) tended to drift down.</p>
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		By: Robert Shotzberger		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/02/19/the-missing-j/#comment-2608613</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Shotzberger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2022 13:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My ancestor was from Brunswick and was a professioanl soldier. He because one the hirelings rented by the British during the American Revolution. In 1776 he and his brigade were sent to Montreal to join Burgoyne&#039;s army and ended up a prisoner after the surrender. By 1782 he was in a prisoner of war camp in Reading, PA where he reached an agreement with a local German man and was freed with an indenture.  His name was Christopher Scherzeberg and the name transformed into my present spelling by a english speaking clerk.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My ancestor was from Brunswick and was a professioanl soldier. He because one the hirelings rented by the British during the American Revolution. In 1776 he and his brigade were sent to Montreal to join Burgoyne&#8217;s army and ended up a prisoner after the surrender. By 1782 he was in a prisoner of war camp in Reading, PA where he reached an agreement with a local German man and was freed with an indenture.  His name was Christopher Scherzeberg and the name transformed into my present spelling by a english speaking clerk.</p>
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		By: Wesson		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/02/19/the-missing-j/#comment-2608589</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wesson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2022 03:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here is another link about the &quot;long s&quot; which I coincidentally ran across the other day:
https://www.pgdp.net/wiki/DP_Official_Documentation:Proofreading/Proofing_old_texts

BTW this is a site associated with Project Gutenberg. They are volunteers who proofread and prepare free ebooks online from public domain texts. It can be relaxing and enjoyable if one has an obsessive mentality. I&#039;ve come across a number of interesting reads this way. It&#039;s also neat to me to help proofread a book, and when it&#039;s finished to download it and read it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is another link about the &#8220;long s&#8221; which I coincidentally ran across the other day:<br />
<a href="https://www.pgdp.net/wiki/DP_Official_Documentation:Proofreading/Proofing_old_texts" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.pgdp.net/wiki/DP_Official_Documentation:Proofreading/Proofing_old_texts</a></p>
<p>BTW this is a site associated with Project Gutenberg. They are volunteers who proofread and prepare free ebooks online from public domain texts. It can be relaxing and enjoyable if one has an obsessive mentality. I&#8217;ve come across a number of interesting reads this way. It&#8217;s also neat to me to help proofread a book, and when it&#8217;s finished to download it and read it.</p>
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		By: jon baker		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/02/19/the-missing-j/#comment-2608565</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jon baker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2022 00:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“F”,
Regarding the “ f “. 
In the larger part printed part of the book I was looking at, you are right in that there is no crossbar. 
There is however the beginning of what seems to be a start of a cross bar. As if someone put a period on the left side of the “ f “ and then stopped.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“F”,<br />
Regarding the “ f “.<br />
In the larger part printed part of the book I was looking at, you are right in that there is no crossbar.<br />
There is however the beginning of what seems to be a start of a cross bar. As if someone put a period on the left side of the “ f “ and then stopped.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/02/19/the-missing-j/#comment-2608548</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2022 22:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Curiously, the “gl” in Italian (for instance in my family name) is pronounced like “J” in the German “Ja”, or “LL” in the Spanish “paella”.&lt;/i&gt;

Paolo Pagliaro:

Reminds me of my favorite Cyrillic letter, &quot;ee kratkoye,&quot; as I learned it. Looks lke a backwards N with a curvy bit over the top. In English, &quot;short i.&quot;
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&lt;i&gt;Short I represents the palatal approximant /j/ like the pronunciation of ?y? in yesterday. ... Depending on the romanization system in use and the Slavic language that is under examination, it can be romanized as ?y?, ?j?, ?i? or ???. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_I&lt;/i&gt;
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So if you happen to see &quot;j&quot; appearing, often mysteriously at the end, of a romanized Russian word, that&#039;s our friend, ee kratkoye.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Curiously, the “gl” in Italian (for instance in my family name) is pronounced like “J” in the German “Ja”, or “LL” in the Spanish “paella”.</i></p>
<p>Paolo Pagliaro:</p>
<p>Reminds me of my favorite Cyrillic letter, &#8220;ee kratkoye,&#8221; as I learned it. Looks lke a backwards N with a curvy bit over the top. In English, &#8220;short i.&#8221;<br />
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<p><i>Short I represents the palatal approximant /j/ like the pronunciation of ?y? in yesterday. &#8230; Depending on the romanization system in use and the Slavic language that is under examination, it can be romanized as ?y?, ?j?, ?i? or ???. </p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_I" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_I</a></i><br />
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<p>So if you happen to see &#8220;j&#8221; appearing, often mysteriously at the end, of a romanized Russian word, that&#8217;s our friend, ee kratkoye.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/02/19/the-missing-j/#comment-2608541</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2022 20:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[DNW:

Spreading sweetness and light again, it seems.  

I&#039;be heard the interweb is forever.  Find a dictionary, look up constant, cheritable.

Philosophy is a heavy burden for some.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DNW:</p>
<p>Spreading sweetness and light again, it seems.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;be heard the interweb is forever.  Find a dictionary, look up constant, cheritable.</p>
<p>Philosophy is a heavy burden for some.</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/02/19/the-missing-j/#comment-2608540</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DNW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2022 20:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo, if you read this, I have a favor to ask.

Please use your editing rights to remove either the last sentence or the entire posting here ...https://www.thenewneo.com/2022/02/19/open-thread-2-19-22/#comment-2608533

Telling Om to go hang and kill himself, was, despite his constant trolling provocations, possibly a little, verging on, maybe, uncharitable.

Anyway, if you see this please do what you can.


Thanks,

DNW]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo, if you read this, I have a favor to ask.</p>
<p>Please use your editing rights to remove either the last sentence or the entire posting here &#8230;<a href="https://www.thenewneo.com/2022/02/19/open-thread-2-19-22/#comment-2608533" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.thenewneo.com/2022/02/19/open-thread-2-19-22/#comment-2608533</a></p>
<p>Telling Om to go hang and kill himself, was, despite his constant trolling provocations, possibly a little, verging on, maybe, uncharitable.</p>
<p>Anyway, if you see this please do what you can.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>DNW</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/02/19/the-missing-j/#comment-2608534</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2022 19:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ TroyCity, Paolo Pagliaro: Arabic-speaking Christians, having the ancestral memories of the related language, Aramaic, which was spoken in New Testament times, call him &quot;Yeshua.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ TroyCity, Paolo Pagliaro: Arabic-speaking Christians, having the ancestral memories of the related language, Aramaic, which was spoken in New Testament times, call him &#8220;Yeshua.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Cappy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/02/19/the-missing-j/#comment-2608515</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cappy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2022 14:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m so glad they invented J.

Tired of being Ewish.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so glad they invented J.</p>
<p>Tired of being Ewish.</p>
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