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		By: Gerard Van der Leun		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/02/19/open-thread-2-19-22/#comment-2608737</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerard Van der Leun]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2022 01:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo writes: &quot; to the lowest common denominator (lowest comment denominator?).&quot;

&quot;Lowest comment denominator&quot; is a phrase that pays. It&#039;s a standard that I often set.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo writes: &#8221; to the lowest common denominator (lowest comment denominator?).&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Lowest comment denominator&#8221; is a phrase that pays. It&#8217;s a standard that I often set.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/02/19/open-thread-2-19-22/#comment-2608727</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2022 00:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Always a modest man, that Yammer.  


The UN?  Don&#039;t  they wear blue helmets?

&quot;A man has got to know his limitations.&quot;  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always a modest man, that Yammer.  </p>
<p>The UN?  Don&#8217;t  they wear blue helmets?</p>
<p>&#8220;A man has got to know his limitations.&#8221;  🙂</p>
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		By: ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/02/19/open-thread-2-19-22/#comment-2608724</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2022 00:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot; I’m asking you to cut way back and be more respectful in the way you disagree with people.&quot;

The respect Om shows to Neo is not respect, but fear due to her power over the blog admin functions.

It is a miscommunication. If you want people to show respect, Neo, you have to demonstrate you have a respect for views that deeply trigger you.

People who have internal traumas and soul fragmentations will adhere to behaviors more than theory or ideals. Since I was prevented from training the bad behavior out, I have not seen you or others get any results over the few times I have visited.

This is a lesson for your soul.  Try to make the most use of it with your limited time on Earth, Neo.

Om is not going to show respect to DNW or Zaphod because Om does not fear those 2.

&quot;More comedy gold from Yammer. Another deep deep thinker. The trioka of deep thought. ?

OT: Do you still have Georgia covered?&quot;

I am sure you missed me over the years, but I certainly did not miss your energy and vibrations.

I have Georgia locked up better than Justin has with UN mercenaries in Canada.

I am after all, breaking your nations apart. How does it feel in your life so far?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; I’m asking you to cut way back and be more respectful in the way you disagree with people.&#8221;</p>
<p>The respect Om shows to Neo is not respect, but fear due to her power over the blog admin functions.</p>
<p>It is a miscommunication. If you want people to show respect, Neo, you have to demonstrate you have a respect for views that deeply trigger you.</p>
<p>People who have internal traumas and soul fragmentations will adhere to behaviors more than theory or ideals. Since I was prevented from training the bad behavior out, I have not seen you or others get any results over the few times I have visited.</p>
<p>This is a lesson for your soul.  Try to make the most use of it with your limited time on Earth, Neo.</p>
<p>Om is not going to show respect to DNW or Zaphod because Om does not fear those 2.</p>
<p>&#8220;More comedy gold from Yammer. Another deep deep thinker. The trioka of deep thought. ?</p>
<p>OT: Do you still have Georgia covered?&#8221;</p>
<p>I am sure you missed me over the years, but I certainly did not miss your energy and vibrations.</p>
<p>I have Georgia locked up better than Justin has with UN mercenaries in Canada.</p>
<p>I am after all, breaking your nations apart. How does it feel in your life so far?</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/02/19/open-thread-2-19-22/#comment-2608721</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2022 00:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[More comedy gold from Yammer.  Another deep deep thinker. The trioka of deep thought.  :)

OT:  Do you still have Georgia covered?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More comedy gold from Yammer.  Another deep deep thinker. The trioka of deep thought.  🙂</p>
<p>OT:  Do you still have Georgia covered?</p>
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		By: ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/02/19/open-thread-2-19-22/#comment-2608720</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2022 00:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;As far as we know faster than light travel is just not possible. The warp of space, in theory, is possible but not likely to be developed any time soon. The energy required is far beyond what we are capable of. So the answer is some tech or another that is efficient enough to accelerate a ship to a speed approaching say 25% of the speed of light. Then travel between the stars is possible.

But we’re not even close.&quot;

The recent limited disclosure by the Pentagon about reverse engineered technology from Roswell should at least dispel the &quot;improbability of getting here&quot; premise.

In general, Earth&#039;s level of spice resources and genetic data is so valuable that ET groups have actually intentionally crash landed vessels here (Roswell) in order to manipulate governments using fear into signing treaties with them.

Grenada Treaty.

This is all part of a long term strategy often used on more primitive civilizations. Crash land a ship, let them study the technology and realize how out classed they are. Then do some light intimidation on their capitals, make their leaders realize that they need equal weapons parity. THen come in and offer a deal, &quot;we give you weapons, and in return you allow us to sample some of your people for DNA data gathering purposes, we will return them unharmed&quot;.

And thus the rise in abductions began after Roswell.

Then there&#039;s the AI nanite threat scenario, which posits that ET groups are actually controlled by a vampiric galaxy wide network of AI, using nanites to control the blood and nerves of lesser ET slave groups. By helping humanity to reverse engineer technology, this helps develop the infrastructure for silicon computing and nanotechnology. The AI group then invades not with a classical physical show of force, but simply by hijacking all the computer chips and technology. The Beast System.

Perhaps microchips in bodies made no sense 10 years ago, but now your phone is connected to your body&#039;s biometrics and nanotechnology can reside in your blood stream, changing your very DNA (mutations).

By the time Neural Link and Gates succeeds, it will be too late. The invasion (higher level) will have succeeded.

So the scenarios are complicated, in that it is the mixing up of different layers, including the Dark Forest scenario, with a number of other things (using human tech and bodies as violent mercenaries).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As far as we know faster than light travel is just not possible. The warp of space, in theory, is possible but not likely to be developed any time soon. The energy required is far beyond what we are capable of. So the answer is some tech or another that is efficient enough to accelerate a ship to a speed approaching say 25% of the speed of light. Then travel between the stars is possible.</p>
<p>But we’re not even close.&#8221;</p>
<p>The recent limited disclosure by the Pentagon about reverse engineered technology from Roswell should at least dispel the &#8220;improbability of getting here&#8221; premise.</p>
<p>In general, Earth&#8217;s level of spice resources and genetic data is so valuable that ET groups have actually intentionally crash landed vessels here (Roswell) in order to manipulate governments using fear into signing treaties with them.</p>
<p>Grenada Treaty.</p>
<p>This is all part of a long term strategy often used on more primitive civilizations. Crash land a ship, let them study the technology and realize how out classed they are. Then do some light intimidation on their capitals, make their leaders realize that they need equal weapons parity. THen come in and offer a deal, &#8220;we give you weapons, and in return you allow us to sample some of your people for DNA data gathering purposes, we will return them unharmed&#8221;.</p>
<p>And thus the rise in abductions began after Roswell.</p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s the AI nanite threat scenario, which posits that ET groups are actually controlled by a vampiric galaxy wide network of AI, using nanites to control the blood and nerves of lesser ET slave groups. By helping humanity to reverse engineer technology, this helps develop the infrastructure for silicon computing and nanotechnology. The AI group then invades not with a classical physical show of force, but simply by hijacking all the computer chips and technology. The Beast System.</p>
<p>Perhaps microchips in bodies made no sense 10 years ago, but now your phone is connected to your body&#8217;s biometrics and nanotechnology can reside in your blood stream, changing your very DNA (mutations).</p>
<p>By the time Neural Link and Gates succeeds, it will be too late. The invasion (higher level) will have succeeded.</p>
<p>So the scenarios are complicated, in that it is the mixing up of different layers, including the Dark Forest scenario, with a number of other things (using human tech and bodies as violent mercenaries).</p>
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		By: ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/02/19/open-thread-2-19-22/#comment-2608718</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2022 23:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Om, have you learned your lessons yet on how pretending to be christian/identity by finding people to project on and hate, has consequences?

God: Let&#039;s see what he answers with.

Satans: I would like to know as well.

I rate people&#039;s level of infuriation based on their emotions. In Om&#039;s life, he has survived up to now by finding people to kick down at and superiors to kiss up at.

It is the little middle management that will abuse people he can in his environment, because of his limited powers, but will bootlick and appease anyone up the chain of command or with any real power over their career.

Detecting that emotion is an ugly experience, and most humans let alone ET psi users, won&#039;t deal with human disrespect. THey have a high intolerance for it.

Z does not have the usual corrupt human mutated mix of envy, hatreds, anger, and jealousies (usually), thus Z is far easier to read and interact with.

I prefer dealing with humans (unmutated) like Zaphod. In fact, I prefer dealing with serial killers (they are purely animalistic in a way) than the corrupt ones online that show their ugly emotions so clearly.

Btw, Neo is the reason why Om has gotten out of hand, because whenever someone is capable of putting Om in his place, she moderates them. But for people with deep psychological imbalances or desires to punch down on people, just cooling down a fight by putting both in detention won&#039;t fix the issue in the long term.

That&#039;s a lesson Neo could learn from, but she does not see it as something very critical. Om is thus doing her a favor, albeit in a negative indirect fashion. It is the way of Karma.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Om, have you learned your lessons yet on how pretending to be christian/identity by finding people to project on and hate, has consequences?</p>
<p>God: Let&#8217;s see what he answers with.</p>
<p>Satans: I would like to know as well.</p>
<p>I rate people&#8217;s level of infuriation based on their emotions. In Om&#8217;s life, he has survived up to now by finding people to kick down at and superiors to kiss up at.</p>
<p>It is the little middle management that will abuse people he can in his environment, because of his limited powers, but will bootlick and appease anyone up the chain of command or with any real power over their career.</p>
<p>Detecting that emotion is an ugly experience, and most humans let alone ET psi users, won&#8217;t deal with human disrespect. THey have a high intolerance for it.</p>
<p>Z does not have the usual corrupt human mutated mix of envy, hatreds, anger, and jealousies (usually), thus Z is far easier to read and interact with.</p>
<p>I prefer dealing with humans (unmutated) like Zaphod. In fact, I prefer dealing with serial killers (they are purely animalistic in a way) than the corrupt ones online that show their ugly emotions so clearly.</p>
<p>Btw, Neo is the reason why Om has gotten out of hand, because whenever someone is capable of putting Om in his place, she moderates them. But for people with deep psychological imbalances or desires to punch down on people, just cooling down a fight by putting both in detention won&#8217;t fix the issue in the long term.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a lesson Neo could learn from, but she does not see it as something very critical. Om is thus doing her a favor, albeit in a negative indirect fashion. It is the way of Karma.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2022 23:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Z doesn&#039;t consider himself non human, unlike the fictional Zaphod Bebbelbrox. So there is that distinction.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Z doesn&#8217;t consider himself non human, unlike the fictional Zaphod Bebbelbrox. So there is that distinction.</p>
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		By: ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/02/19/open-thread-2-19-22/#comment-2608712</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2022 23:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;And yes, I’m barely tolerable and doubtless infuriating to many present. &quot;

Compared to whom, ymar? You are not even close to being infuriating.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And yes, I’m barely tolerable and doubtless infuriating to many present. &#8221;</p>
<p>Compared to whom, ymar? You are not even close to being infuriating.</p>
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		By: Yawrate		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/02/19/open-thread-2-19-22/#comment-2608619</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2022 15:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting video. It calls to mind the very short story by Terry Bisson, &quot;They&#039;re Made Out Of Meat&quot;. It gives an amusing reason why we&#039;ve never been contacted. You can find it online at no cost.

Science fiction has come up with many ways to look at this problem. Cixin Liu&#039;s trilogy, &quot;The Three Body Problem&quot; answers the question by positing a dangerous galaxy where it&#039;s best to remain quiet.

I&#039;ve just finished reading John Sandford&#039;s &quot;Saturn Run&quot;. Another interesting way to look at this question. The book is based on the current state of our technology (so there&#039;s no transporters!) and takes place in the near future.

Sandford&#039;s take on this is much more likely. How could aliens ever know we are even here? Our EM signals only just started and fade with distance. Sure, maybe Proxima might notice as it&#039;s only 4 light years out. But habitable planets with intelligent life might be hundreds of light years away. No one knows we&#039;re here and they may never know!

As far as we know faster than light travel is just not possible. The warp of space, in theory, is possible but not likely to be developed any time soon. The energy required is far beyond what we are capable of. So the answer is some tech or another that is efficient enough to accelerate a ship to a speed approaching say 25% of the speed of light. Then travel between the stars is possible.

But we&#039;re not even close.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting video. It calls to mind the very short story by Terry Bisson, &#8220;They&#8217;re Made Out Of Meat&#8221;. It gives an amusing reason why we&#8217;ve never been contacted. You can find it online at no cost.</p>
<p>Science fiction has come up with many ways to look at this problem. Cixin Liu&#8217;s trilogy, &#8220;The Three Body Problem&#8221; answers the question by positing a dangerous galaxy where it&#8217;s best to remain quiet.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve just finished reading John Sandford&#8217;s &#8220;Saturn Run&#8221;. Another interesting way to look at this question. The book is based on the current state of our technology (so there&#8217;s no transporters!) and takes place in the near future.</p>
<p>Sandford&#8217;s take on this is much more likely. How could aliens ever know we are even here? Our EM signals only just started and fade with distance. Sure, maybe Proxima might notice as it&#8217;s only 4 light years out. But habitable planets with intelligent life might be hundreds of light years away. No one knows we&#8217;re here and they may never know!</p>
<p>As far as we know faster than light travel is just not possible. The warp of space, in theory, is possible but not likely to be developed any time soon. The energy required is far beyond what we are capable of. So the answer is some tech or another that is efficient enough to accelerate a ship to a speed approaching say 25% of the speed of light. Then travel between the stars is possible.</p>
<p>But we&#8217;re not even close.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2022 06:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Philip Sells:

I&#039;ve reengaged somewhat with the chess world in recent years, though not enough to notice Aronian&#039;s latest move. Though, as you say, the more traditional displacement to NYC for global chess talent.

I did love the story of Korchnoi at 79 defeating Caruana at 18, ten years ago:
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&lt;i&gt;The game’s mental and physical toll eventually forces most top players to stop competing. And those who continue to play tend to avoid the elite tournaments where the pressure is greatest.

Then there is Viktor Korchnoi.

He was a top player for more than 30 years and competed for the world title three times. The last of those battles was in 1981, when he was 50. Four years ago, when he was 75, he was still ranked No. 85 in the world.

At 79, ‘Viktor the Terrible’ Outsmarts an 18-Year-Old
https://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/30/crosswords/chess/30chess.html&lt;/i&gt;
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If one followed those fabulous sixties-seventies World Chess Championship cycles which featured Spassky and Fischer at their peaks, there was always Viktor Korchnoi, grim-faced in the mix, not far behind either of them, though never quite cracking the final level.
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&lt;i&gt;He is considered one of the strongest players never to have become World Chess Champion. --Wiki&lt;/i&gt;
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But what a competitior! Also, one of the only Soviet Grandmasters who broke with Moscow and defected to the West.

Then there is Viktor Korchnoi. A man of iron. 

His victory over Caruana was epic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philip Sells:</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve reengaged somewhat with the chess world in recent years, though not enough to notice Aronian&#8217;s latest move. Though, as you say, the more traditional displacement to NYC for global chess talent.</p>
<p>I did love the story of Korchnoi at 79 defeating Caruana at 18, ten years ago:<br />
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<p><i>The game’s mental and physical toll eventually forces most top players to stop competing. And those who continue to play tend to avoid the elite tournaments where the pressure is greatest.</p>
<p>Then there is Viktor Korchnoi.</p>
<p>He was a top player for more than 30 years and competed for the world title three times. The last of those battles was in 1981, when he was 50. Four years ago, when he was 75, he was still ranked No. 85 in the world.</p>
<p>At 79, ‘Viktor the Terrible’ Outsmarts an 18-Year-Old<br />
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/30/crosswords/chess/30chess.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/30/crosswords/chess/30chess.html</a></i><br />
___________________________</p>
<p>If one followed those fabulous sixties-seventies World Chess Championship cycles which featured Spassky and Fischer at their peaks, there was always Viktor Korchnoi, grim-faced in the mix, not far behind either of them, though never quite cracking the final level.<br />
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<p><i>He is considered one of the strongest players never to have become World Chess Champion. &#8211;Wiki</i><br />
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<p>But what a competitior! Also, one of the only Soviet Grandmasters who broke with Moscow and defected to the West.</p>
<p>Then there is Viktor Korchnoi. A man of iron. </p>
<p>His victory over Caruana was epic.</p>
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