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		By: Cappy		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Boy, that zeitgeist was exhausting.

Well, we boomers sure did a job.  From protesting Kent State 50 years ago to demanding it now.

You&#039;re welcome, America!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy, that zeitgeist was exhausting.</p>
<p>Well, we boomers sure did a job.  From protesting Kent State 50 years ago to demanding it now.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re welcome, America!</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2022 23:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi  sparkee. 
Greetings fellow Buff.  Yes, the school still seemed relatively normal in the 80s - a mix of left and right.

Jack was a go-getter in college and remained so his entire life. We did as much as we could to help him in his election campaign. His untimely death was a shock.   I&#039;m grateful that I knew him and that he was my friend.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi  sparkee.<br />
Greetings fellow Buff.  Yes, the school still seemed relatively normal in the 80s &#8211; a mix of left and right.</p>
<p>Jack was a go-getter in college and remained so his entire life. We did as much as we could to help him in his election campaign. His untimely death was a shock.   I&#8217;m grateful that I knew him and that he was my friend.</p>
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		By: sparkee		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2022 18:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[J.J.:

That&#039;s so cool that you knew Jack Swigert. He was a great man.

I was going to CU Boulder during the &#039;80&#039;s and while many there were budding leftists, it seemed that there was a pretty good sized population of normal folk. Not so much the case today unfortunately.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J.J.:</p>
<p>That&#8217;s so cool that you knew Jack Swigert. He was a great man.</p>
<p>I was going to CU Boulder during the &#8217;80&#8217;s and while many there were budding leftists, it seemed that there was a pretty good sized population of normal folk. Not so much the case today unfortunately.</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2022 18:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One thing I seem to recall about the &quot;eighties&quot; is a general return to, as Art Deco would probably put it, &quot;Sartorial sanity&quot; . 

Not sure just when it began, and never was a reader of Esquire, but I seem to recall some trend beginning in those precincts and about that era  toward &quot; natural fabrics&quot; and so-called &quot;Classic styles&quot;

It certainly made life easier: not having to endleslly search out the least flowered shirt or the most modestly flared slacks, or the least extravagant collars.

That might have even started in the late mid seventies, but I don&#039;t recall. 

I mean you could always find certain things - or so I assume - at Brooks Brothers - but what average 17 or 18 year old male was shopping there?

What I do remember is as a youngish adult with a job in industry in the mid eighties and 90&#039;s, being able to just walk into a clothing store and find racks of wool slacks, pleated or not;  stacks of cotton dress and casual shirts, button down or not (and with substantial tails!); jackets to be had that were cut roomy with natural shoulders, and silk and other ties that were of a reasonable width. 

You see the skinny short stick  suits some guys try threading themselves into nowadays, even overweight middle aged guys, and it looks like they are modeling for a cartoon in a satirical magazine.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I seem to recall about the &#8220;eighties&#8221; is a general return to, as Art Deco would probably put it, &#8220;Sartorial sanity&#8221; . </p>
<p>Not sure just when it began, and never was a reader of Esquire, but I seem to recall some trend beginning in those precincts and about that era  toward &#8221; natural fabrics&#8221; and so-called &#8220;Classic styles&#8221;</p>
<p>It certainly made life easier: not having to endleslly search out the least flowered shirt or the most modestly flared slacks, or the least extravagant collars.</p>
<p>That might have even started in the late mid seventies, but I don&#8217;t recall. </p>
<p>I mean you could always find certain things &#8211; or so I assume &#8211; at Brooks Brothers &#8211; but what average 17 or 18 year old male was shopping there?</p>
<p>What I do remember is as a youngish adult with a job in industry in the mid eighties and 90&#8217;s, being able to just walk into a clothing store and find racks of wool slacks, pleated or not;  stacks of cotton dress and casual shirts, button down or not (and with substantial tails!); jackets to be had that were cut roomy with natural shoulders, and silk and other ties that were of a reasonable width. </p>
<p>You see the skinny short stick  suits some guys try threading themselves into nowadays, even overweight middle aged guys, and it looks like they are modeling for a cartoon in a satirical magazine.</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2022 18:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Agree with the gist of a number of remarks here. 

The gender insanity that has become endemic in, and thus emblematic of,  our civilization, has precedents in morally and spiritually decadent prior civilizations. The moral nihilism of those times - exemplified by intellectual  movements such as radical philisophical skepticism -  has found new intellectual bedding or excuses or justifications in our own times;  new banners to fly under, technological developments such as contraception, abortifacients, and antibiotics, to enable.

Marx, Freud, Evolutionary Materialism, the worship of the will as will;  and you have all the pseudo philosophical ingredients necessary to give all the mutant freaks and faeries and narsissistic sociopaths who you have always with you, to pretend to a kind of subversive moral legitimacy which seemingly makes giving them the back of your hand, rather than extending tolerance, somehow wrong. 

Take away the moral hazards of insanity via tech, and they will recognize no limits because they will have temporarily at least, insulated themselves from reality by subversively burrowing deep inside the moral and economic lives of those who have not quite abandoned it completely.

It is difficult to see how our actions in a pick-up bar in 1990 could possibly be all that wrong, much less related to the preconditions for a possibly emerging social decoherence. But then no one is saying that a few such occasional and restrained acts will. 

Aside from the subtle effects of a spreading  temporal wave of all our acts through time, there is the simple fact that a significant portion of the population never seems content to take just a couple steps over the line,nor to.keep their acts private and circumscribed. 

Instead they seem giddily determined to take, lead, or expose, all of humanity to hell along with them.

And that impulse may in the last analysis be the most defining psychgoligical  trait of the natural born moral nihilist.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with the gist of a number of remarks here. </p>
<p>The gender insanity that has become endemic in, and thus emblematic of,  our civilization, has precedents in morally and spiritually decadent prior civilizations. The moral nihilism of those times &#8211; exemplified by intellectual  movements such as radical philisophical skepticism &#8211;  has found new intellectual bedding or excuses or justifications in our own times;  new banners to fly under, technological developments such as contraception, abortifacients, and antibiotics, to enable.</p>
<p>Marx, Freud, Evolutionary Materialism, the worship of the will as will;  and you have all the pseudo philosophical ingredients necessary to give all the mutant freaks and faeries and narsissistic sociopaths who you have always with you, to pretend to a kind of subversive moral legitimacy which seemingly makes giving them the back of your hand, rather than extending tolerance, somehow wrong. </p>
<p>Take away the moral hazards of insanity via tech, and they will recognize no limits because they will have temporarily at least, insulated themselves from reality by subversively burrowing deep inside the moral and economic lives of those who have not quite abandoned it completely.</p>
<p>It is difficult to see how our actions in a pick-up bar in 1990 could possibly be all that wrong, much less related to the preconditions for a possibly emerging social decoherence. But then no one is saying that a few such occasional and restrained acts will. </p>
<p>Aside from the subtle effects of a spreading  temporal wave of all our acts through time, there is the simple fact that a significant portion of the population never seems content to take just a couple steps over the line,nor to.keep their acts private and circumscribed. </p>
<p>Instead they seem giddily determined to take, lead, or expose, all of humanity to hell along with them.</p>
<p>And that impulse may in the last analysis be the most defining psychgoligical  trait of the natural born moral nihilist.</p>
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