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		By: Cappy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/02/11/its-not-about-vaccines-its-not-even-about-mandates/#comment-2607187</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cappy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2022 14:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Simon Says?

How about Red Light Green Light?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon Says?</p>
<p>How about Red Light Green Light?</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/02/11/its-not-about-vaccines-its-not-even-about-mandates/#comment-2607072</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excellent news (i.e., for those who want to save lives):
&quot;States push to ease access to ivermectin, other COVID treatments that establishment blocked.
&quot;Oklahoma attorney general also says he&#039;ll leave alone doctors prescribing FDA-approved drugs for off-label COVID treatment.&quot;---
https://justthenews.com/government/state-houses/lawmakers-tackle-hurdles-covid-patients-get-treatments-opposed-medical

+ Bonus...on how &quot;THE SCIENCE HAS CHANGED&quot;(TM)....
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/02/the-liberal-retreat-from-mandates-2.php
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/team-doom-suddenly-reversing-covid-restrictions-shows-it-was-never-about-science-only]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent news (i.e., for those who want to save lives):<br />
&#8220;States push to ease access to ivermectin, other COVID treatments that establishment blocked.<br />
&#8220;Oklahoma attorney general also says he&#8217;ll leave alone doctors prescribing FDA-approved drugs for off-label COVID treatment.&#8221;&#8212;<br />
<a href="https://justthenews.com/government/state-houses/lawmakers-tackle-hurdles-covid-patients-get-treatments-opposed-medical" rel="nofollow ugc">https://justthenews.com/government/state-houses/lawmakers-tackle-hurdles-covid-patients-get-treatments-opposed-medical</a></p>
<p>+ Bonus&#8230;on how &#8220;THE SCIENCE HAS CHANGED&#8221;(TM)&#8230;.<br />
<a href="https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/02/the-liberal-retreat-from-mandates-2.php" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/02/the-liberal-retreat-from-mandates-2.php</a><br />
<a href="https://www.zerohedge.com/political/team-doom-suddenly-reversing-covid-restrictions-shows-it-was-never-about-science-only" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.zerohedge.com/political/team-doom-suddenly-reversing-covid-restrictions-shows-it-was-never-about-science-only</a></p>
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		By: stan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There are still millions of Americans who regard Fauci as the foremost authority and advisor on Covid. They hear and believe him. They are willing to do horrible things to themselves and their children because he says so. His long sordid history of incompetence, dishonesty and corruption does not matter. No rational person could possibly think him credible or trustworthy. But tens of millions of liberals do.

Obviously, there is no thinking involved. None. Rational thought, logic, benefit/cost analysis are foreign.  Because they ALWAYS have been.

Covid believers are liberals for the same reasons and in the same way that they are liberals voting Democrat. They don&#039;t think for themselves. They don&#039;t want to. Men can get pregnant because the party says so. BLM riots are peaceful because the party says so. Jan 6 was an attempted coup despite the complete absence of any evidence to support the claim because the party says so. Women never lie, cops roam the streets looking to kill blacks, the planet is dying, masks work, rape culture, spending trillions will cure inflation, renewables can provide all our power needs, most honest election in history, white supremacy is our most serious terror threat --- every single one of these brain dead beliefs is held firmly by liberals because they are told to believe them. And they will do a 180 on any of them the moment the party tells them to. 

Being a loyal, believing liberal is all about faith. It&#039;s how they define morality. It would be heresy to do otherwise. If thinking interferes with their liberal faith, abandon the thinking.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are still millions of Americans who regard Fauci as the foremost authority and advisor on Covid. They hear and believe him. They are willing to do horrible things to themselves and their children because he says so. His long sordid history of incompetence, dishonesty and corruption does not matter. No rational person could possibly think him credible or trustworthy. But tens of millions of liberals do.</p>
<p>Obviously, there is no thinking involved. None. Rational thought, logic, benefit/cost analysis are foreign.  Because they ALWAYS have been.</p>
<p>Covid believers are liberals for the same reasons and in the same way that they are liberals voting Democrat. They don&#8217;t think for themselves. They don&#8217;t want to. Men can get pregnant because the party says so. BLM riots are peaceful because the party says so. Jan 6 was an attempted coup despite the complete absence of any evidence to support the claim because the party says so. Women never lie, cops roam the streets looking to kill blacks, the planet is dying, masks work, rape culture, spending trillions will cure inflation, renewables can provide all our power needs, most honest election in history, white supremacy is our most serious terror threat &#8212; every single one of these brain dead beliefs is held firmly by liberals because they are told to believe them. And they will do a 180 on any of them the moment the party tells them to. </p>
<p>Being a loyal, believing liberal is all about faith. It&#8217;s how they define morality. It would be heresy to do otherwise. If thinking interferes with their liberal faith, abandon the thinking.</p>
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		By: TommyJay		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/02/11/its-not-about-vaccines-its-not-even-about-mandates/#comment-2606992</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TommyJay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2022 17:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo,
I see your point, but I still think there is an important distinction.  To put too blunt of a point on it, contrast the Hitler Youth movement vs. the Nazi treatment of Jews.  A foundation of the latter is division and hatred, but not (or much less so) for the former; although I&#039;d argue the Youth movement did produce obedience.

Nowadays, our primary and secondary schools are becoming a version of the Youth movement.  Wildly speculating as to the motivations of the left, it seems as though they are pulling all the levers to achieve power.  The division and hatred avenue reminds me of Orwell&#039;s quote.  Something about playing with fire without realizing that fire can burn.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo,<br />
I see your point, but I still think there is an important distinction.  To put too blunt of a point on it, contrast the Hitler Youth movement vs. the Nazi treatment of Jews.  A foundation of the latter is division and hatred, but not (or much less so) for the former; although I&#8217;d argue the Youth movement did produce obedience.</p>
<p>Nowadays, our primary and secondary schools are becoming a version of the Youth movement.  Wildly speculating as to the motivations of the left, it seems as though they are pulling all the levers to achieve power.  The division and hatred avenue reminds me of Orwell&#8217;s quote.  Something about playing with fire without realizing that fire can burn.</p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/02/11/its-not-about-vaccines-its-not-even-about-mandates/#comment-2606974</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rufus T. Firefly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2022 14:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Some very interesting talk from Doug Ford and Justin Trudeau. Their reaction is very out of line with the nature of the protest. Rather than easing tension their words and actions are prolonging the protest. So far the protesters have been far more civil than Ford and Trudeau, but the latter seem to want provocation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some very interesting talk from Doug Ford and Justin Trudeau. Their reaction is very out of line with the nature of the protest. Rather than easing tension their words and actions are prolonging the protest. So far the protesters have been far more civil than Ford and Trudeau, but the latter seem to want provocation.</p>
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		By: charles		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[charles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2022 07:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sort of off topic; but two minor things I noticed, and loved, about the Canadians during this nationwide protest in Canada.

First are the videos showing kids and adults (can I assume it is truckers with their kids?) playing street hockey in Ottawa.  Americans? we would have started throwing Frisbees around or something.  But, leave it to the Canadians to start a game of street hockey!

Second was a video clip showing men on horseback showing up at the closed border crossing out west and one of the men had the Canadian flag flying from a hockey stick.

Both scenes are so Canadian one just has to love it! We Americans are lucky to have some great neighbors to our north.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sort of off topic; but two minor things I noticed, and loved, about the Canadians during this nationwide protest in Canada.</p>
<p>First are the videos showing kids and adults (can I assume it is truckers with their kids?) playing street hockey in Ottawa.  Americans? we would have started throwing Frisbees around or something.  But, leave it to the Canadians to start a game of street hockey!</p>
<p>Second was a video clip showing men on horseback showing up at the closed border crossing out west and one of the men had the Canadian flag flying from a hockey stick.</p>
<p>Both scenes are so Canadian one just has to love it! We Americans are lucky to have some great neighbors to our north.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2022 05:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Back in the Tea Party days I read a column by Frida Ghtis, who is such an unreflective liberal idiot that Jon Stewart once took her to a task on his show. She was trying to understand the Tea Party, and I would say in good faith.

She asked, what does the Tea Party want. She was told that they didn&#039;t want anything. They wanted the government to leave them alone.

She couldn&#039;t process that answer. She kept asking, no, what do *you* want the government to do for *you*.

Same answer.

She couldn&#039;t get it. It was not a possibility for her.

It was amusing and tragic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in the Tea Party days I read a column by Frida Ghtis, who is such an unreflective liberal idiot that Jon Stewart once took her to a task on his show. She was trying to understand the Tea Party, and I would say in good faith.</p>
<p>She asked, what does the Tea Party want. She was told that they didn&#8217;t want anything. They wanted the government to leave them alone.</p>
<p>She couldn&#8217;t process that answer. She kept asking, no, what do *you* want the government to do for *you*.</p>
<p>Same answer.</p>
<p>She couldn&#8217;t get it. It was not a possibility for her.</p>
<p>It was amusing and tragic.</p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rufus T. Firefly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2022 04:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[R2L,

Whomever controls force controls power. Cuomo and DeSantis had the power in their states. The Karens in New York convinced Governor Cuomo to lock the state down. The Karens in Florida did not do the same with DeSantis. DeSantis respected individual rights, Cuomo did not.

The question isn&#039;t why some people seek power over others. The question is, how to devise a system that doesn&#039;t allow them to succeed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R2L,</p>
<p>Whomever controls force controls power. Cuomo and DeSantis had the power in their states. The Karens in New York convinced Governor Cuomo to lock the state down. The Karens in Florida did not do the same with DeSantis. DeSantis respected individual rights, Cuomo did not.</p>
<p>The question isn&#8217;t why some people seek power over others. The question is, how to devise a system that doesn&#8217;t allow them to succeed.</p>
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		By: R2L		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[R2L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2022 04:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[But WHY do we have some people that have to be Karen&#039;s and/or real tyrants and attempt to control others, while most of us most of the time prefer to just be left alone (also see Rufus&#039;s comments in prior thread)?

I believe Sowell&#039;s Conflict of Visions between people with constrained vs. unconstrained visions applies here, although my impression is he was not suggesting this was a clean black-white type of dichotomy. 

Or is there some other psychological dimension in play here?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But WHY do we have some people that have to be Karen&#8217;s and/or real tyrants and attempt to control others, while most of us most of the time prefer to just be left alone (also see Rufus&#8217;s comments in prior thread)?</p>
<p>I believe Sowell&#8217;s Conflict of Visions between people with constrained vs. unconstrained visions applies here, although my impression is he was not suggesting this was a clean black-white type of dichotomy. </p>
<p>Or is there some other psychological dimension in play here?</p>
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		By: Ray SoCa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray SoCa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2022 04:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What they did to the tea party is why you got Trump, and a huge ongoing fight for the soul of the Republican Party.

Trumps great power was he ripped off the mask to show the corruption, incompetence, and fascism of our elite governing class.

The Trucker Revolt is doing something similar in Canada. The conservatives seem to have been willing uniparty partners, junior members. Just like the establishment Gop is in the US is to the Democrats.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What they did to the tea party is why you got Trump, and a huge ongoing fight for the soul of the Republican Party.</p>
<p>Trumps great power was he ripped off the mask to show the corruption, incompetence, and fascism of our elite governing class.</p>
<p>The Trucker Revolt is doing something similar in Canada. The conservatives seem to have been willing uniparty partners, junior members. Just like the establishment Gop is in the US is to the Democrats.</p>
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