Comments on: The American Bar Association forces CRT-based education into all accredited law schools

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:11:34 +0000

@ John W Dorman –
I agree with your prescription, but don’t think it will ever be actuated, because legislatures and their staffs are predominantly comprised of law school graduates (not necessarily practicing lawyers), and the ABA has massive lobbying power.

They don’t necessarily have as much clout on the K-12 and general college level education. However, I assume they will exercise as much arm-twisting as they can.

By: John W Dorman

John W Dorman — Fri, 11 Feb 2022 17:55:44 +0000

I would think state law would trump the ABA, so conservatives should push to make sure that prohibitions on racist CRT teaching should apply to all levels of education, and if a public law school in that state complies with the ABA’s requirements on CRT, they lose ALL funding. I’m sure they can also put pressure on private law schools by withholding benefits from those schools, or providing that the state and any subdivisions may not hire any graduates from law schools that promote CRT.

By: neo

neo — Fri, 11 Feb 2022 17:49:01 +0000

shadow:

I don’t think that’s a new phenomenon.

By: miguel cervantes

miguel cervantes — Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:34:32 +0000

of course crt or die is like malware, it contaminates and corrupts every institution,
law already had a tenuous relation to logic, with dread pirate roberts, trying to be ‘on the right side of history’

By: Cappy

Cappy — Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:30:00 +0000

This is happening in medical schools. I know for certain that in a red state adjacent to me the curriculum is changing to delete medical training in order to have more time for DIE.

Seriously, after a lifetime of indoctrination, admission essays, monitoring of social media, and other means of weeding out those impure of thought, if they haven’t bought in to this crap by medical school admission, what’s the point?

By: shadow

shadow — Fri, 11 Feb 2022 13:34:58 +0000

I’ll say it: Law school has become a path for many people who want a career, but don’t know what else to do. There are no required undergraduate majors or courses. It’s not easy to get into a T14 school, but if you’re halfway bright it is quite easy to get into an okay school. For the first year, your only obligation is to sit in lecture halls and read books. To young people who don’t want the college experience to end, or who hate their dead-end first job, that’s appealing. So I think you have more and more people going to law school who don’t really care about the principles behind the legal system all that much.

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Fri, 11 Feb 2022 07:26:14 +0000

We knew the law schools were going to be the cause of trouble back in the late 1970s, when AesopSpouse’s class on Constitutional Law never required the students to actually read the Constitution.
And that was at a conservative university.

By: Geoffrey Britain

Geoffrey Britain — Fri, 11 Feb 2022 04:51:09 +0000

“I disagree that the actual work could be easily condensed into 2 years. That was not my impression at all when I was in law school.” neo

Something like 20 years ago, I read that just the State of California alone, averages passing 1200 new laws each year.

They say that no matter how law abiding one may be, we are in violation of numerous laws and, ignorance is no excuse in the eyes of ‘the law’.

The need for mountains of laws is a reflection of how badly, on average, a society’s individuals have lost their moral compass. In the aggregate, the more moral a society, the less need for laws.

There are only Ten Commandments. Jesus only offered one new Commandment and there is only one Golden Rule.

Imagine a society where the great majority diligently practiced those 12 principles. And when someone violated any of those principles responded promptly with proportionate consequence.

No matter how many new laws we create, no matter how tightly we seek to cover every manner in which men may act dishonestly, it will never be enough.

By: Jimmy

Jimmy — Fri, 11 Feb 2022 03:36:46 +0000

But I disagree that the actual work could be easily condensed into 2 years. That was not my impression at all when I was in law school.

I think their point is more based on the first criticism, that law school doesn’t prepare you to practice law, so from that point of view the three years seems unnecessary. You learn how to be a lawyer when you start working. But I also know people who really enjoyed law school intellectually (including my mother, who went in her 40s after she and my father divorced) and didn’t complain about the duration.

By: R2L

R2L — Fri, 11 Feb 2022 03:33:49 +0000

j e on February 10, 2022 at 3:28 pm
Lets take over D.I.E. as our own, say as Determination, Integrity, and Excellence; or perhaps Deplorable, Insignificant, Entity.

DNW on February 10, 2022 at 4:03 pm: I see a great future for you in writing legal textbooks. And at 4:24pm: “the same old chord” I thought discussions of chords was reserved for the Open Thread postings.