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		By: Cappy		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Avoid Fort Marcy Park.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Avoid Fort Marcy Park.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/01/27/the-carter-page-lawsuit/#comment-2604346</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2022 07:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Dan D - you got me interested; I had never heard about that act by Harding, although I&#039;ve read a few things recently that are raising him in my opinion from the stereotypical historical view.

https://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/david-keene/69203-a-second-look-at-harding
After some fascinating background, not complimentary to Wilson: 
&lt;blockquote&gt;As president, Harding unhesitatingly freed Debs and others unfairly persecuted by Wilson; his “normalcy” was, it seems, built on a respect for the Constitution, and while he craved the good opinion of others as much as any politician, he didn’t spend his time dreaming up ways to send his critics to prison.

&lt;b&gt;Also differing from Wilson on questions involving race, the new president headed off to Birmingham, Ala., of all places, to tell a crowd in excess of 25,000 that America would never realize her full potential until blacks and whites could count on equal treatment under the law in a society in which men and women would be judged as individuals rather than on the color of their skin. &lt;/b&gt;The crowd that day was divided by a chain-link fence with whites on one side and blacks on the other. When Harding uttered these words, the 10,000 men and women on the “black side” of the fence cheered while the whites stood stonily silent staring at them and the president of whom they’d expected “better.”

That speech is forgotten today, though it would be nearly half a century before national politicians would speak as forthrightly and few would have the courage, even in the ’60s, to say what Harding said in Birmingham.

So things aren’t always as they appear. Historians have always loved Wilson, perhaps because they see him as one of their own: an author, an intellectual and a university president. Harding, on the other hand, was just a regular guy without pretension who tried to do the right thing; &lt;b&gt;not the sort of guy admired by the academic and journalistic elitists who write histories.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Do tell.

WaPo, for some reason, had a very recent story on Harding, which is behind their paywall and I didn&#039;t read it. 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2022/01/06/warren-harding-eugene-debs/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Dan D &#8211; you got me interested; I had never heard about that act by Harding, although I&#8217;ve read a few things recently that are raising him in my opinion from the stereotypical historical view.</p>
<p><a href="https://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/david-keene/69203-a-second-look-at-harding" rel="nofollow ugc">https://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/david-keene/69203-a-second-look-at-harding</a><br />
After some fascinating background, not complimentary to Wilson: </p>
<blockquote><p>As president, Harding unhesitatingly freed Debs and others unfairly persecuted by Wilson; his “normalcy” was, it seems, built on a respect for the Constitution, and while he craved the good opinion of others as much as any politician, he didn’t spend his time dreaming up ways to send his critics to prison.</p>
<p><b>Also differing from Wilson on questions involving race, the new president headed off to Birmingham, Ala., of all places, to tell a crowd in excess of 25,000 that America would never realize her full potential until blacks and whites could count on equal treatment under the law in a society in which men and women would be judged as individuals rather than on the color of their skin. </b>The crowd that day was divided by a chain-link fence with whites on one side and blacks on the other. When Harding uttered these words, the 10,000 men and women on the “black side” of the fence cheered while the whites stood stonily silent staring at them and the president of whom they’d expected “better.”</p>
<p>That speech is forgotten today, though it would be nearly half a century before national politicians would speak as forthrightly and few would have the courage, even in the ’60s, to say what Harding said in Birmingham.</p>
<p>So things aren’t always as they appear. Historians have always loved Wilson, perhaps because they see him as one of their own: an author, an intellectual and a university president. Harding, on the other hand, was just a regular guy without pretension who tried to do the right thing; <b>not the sort of guy admired by the academic and journalistic elitists who write histories.</b></p></blockquote>
<p>Do tell.</p>
<p>WaPo, for some reason, had a very recent story on Harding, which is behind their paywall and I didn&#8217;t read it.<br />
<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2022/01/06/warren-harding-eugene-debs/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2022/01/06/warren-harding-eugene-debs/</a></p>
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		By: buddhaha		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/01/27/the-carter-page-lawsuit/#comment-2604316</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2022 02:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The FBI is, and always has been, corrupt. 

I will hold to that opinion unless and until they rename their headquarters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The FBI is, and always has been, corrupt. </p>
<p>I will hold to that opinion unless and until they rename their headquarters.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/01/27/the-carter-page-lawsuit/#comment-2604298</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2022 00:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Start anew, defund the FBI.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Start anew, defund the FBI.</p>
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		By: Leland		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2022 23:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wish him luck as well.  Actually, what I really wish is that I saw as much chance of Page getting legal and public support as the Antifa rioters in the summer of 2020.

I also wish the US Women&#039;s Gymnastics team members could sue the FBI SAC that let them be continually molested for his own career self-interest.

The real problem is we have a DoJ that protects itself while it tramples the rights of others.  It is thoroughly corrupt and an example of why government power should always be limited.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish him luck as well.  Actually, what I really wish is that I saw as much chance of Page getting legal and public support as the Antifa rioters in the summer of 2020.</p>
<p>I also wish the US Women&#8217;s Gymnastics team members could sue the FBI SAC that let them be continually molested for his own career self-interest.</p>
<p>The real problem is we have a DoJ that protects itself while it tramples the rights of others.  It is thoroughly corrupt and an example of why government power should always be limited.</p>
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		By: Dan D		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2022 22:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike K, you mean the first time since the Great War.  Woodrow Wilson and A Mitchell Palmer, his nasty Attorney General, filled jails with political prisoners.  Harding freed hundreds in his first month in office.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike K, you mean the first time since the Great War.  Woodrow Wilson and A Mitchell Palmer, his nasty Attorney General, filled jails with political prisoners.  Harding freed hundreds in his first month in office.</p>
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		By: Mike K		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2022 21:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think Page has about as much chance of success as Papadopoulis has. The FBI has been corrupt since before they took Nixon down.  The DOJ is corrupt and we see American political prisoners for the first time since the Civil War.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Page has about as much chance of success as Papadopoulis has. The FBI has been corrupt since before they took Nixon down.  The DOJ is corrupt and we see American political prisoners for the first time since the Civil War.</p>
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