Comments on: On crime, “progressive” DAs, and self-defense

By: Another Mike

Another Mike — Thu, 27 Jan 2022 16:40:24 +0000

R2L: Not to make this a mini-self defense course… In the words of Paul Hornig: “Practice, practice, practice..” Yes, all who carry should work on “weak-hand” shooting, and single-handed reloading, either semi-auto or revolver. It might make a difference some day. Hopefully, though, a never-needed skill.

By: R2L

R2L — Wed, 26 Jan 2022 03:51:18 +0000

Another Mike on January 25, 2022 at 10:22 am
“… aging process … ability to stand and defend one’s self unarmed.”
And you don’t have to be all that far down the aging process to get arthritis in your fingers such that the trigger finder no longer can be bent enough to pull the trigger [but I can still type 🙂 ].

Wife and I took a 2 hr. gun awareness class, followed by a trip to a range. Ended up firing 10 rounds from a Glock at a target 25 ft. away with my left hand. Did ok but clearly a far cry from protecting myself during a crime situation.

By: Tim

Tim — Tue, 25 Jan 2022 20:48:59 +0000

A problem with the 21 foot rule is that the attacker won’t show the knife when he’s 21 feet away. He’ll show it when he’s at bad breath distance and closing. Trust your instincts: when you get a bad vibe from someone, move and prepare to respond as needed.

By: neo

neo — Tue, 25 Jan 2022 18:34:55 +0000

Nancy B:

I’m glad you were able to get out.

By: huxley

huxley — Tue, 25 Jan 2022 18:05:15 +0000

@huxley – loved that scene, but it doesn’t real “prove” the 21 foot rule.

zenman:

I didn’t say it proved the rule. I didn’t think it did. It was just a fun scene and the first time I heard of the “21 foot rule.

By: sonny wayz

sonny wayz — Tue, 25 Jan 2022 17:20:19 +0000

@Another Mike

“Ex. construction laborer whose home and job site are not served by pub-trans. The theft creates a financial crisis for that family.”

I always ask, what if the worker’s *tools* are in the truck? Still just property, right? No potential at all for a bad outcome for the victim.

That academic who claimed ‘insurance covers it’ can’t go to Hades quickly enough.

By: Nancy B.

Nancy B. — Tue, 25 Jan 2022 15:59:31 +0000

Back in the early 1990s, we had just moved into a new house like that week. I went out shopping, and when I came back saw a light in the basement. I was about halfway down the stairs to turn it off when a black man came out of the room that was to be used as an office, and said “Come here.” I have always vividly remembered it, because, frankly, my first impulse was to comply. It was a rental, the man was middle-aged, and I supposed it possible that he was some sort of handyman for the landlord. What astounded me was that there was no “fight or flight” impulse but a sense of expanded time where I calculated my odds. I had half a flight of stairs advantage, and reckoned a chance of escape was worth it.

I ran into the street, saw a woman neighbor who took me into her house to call the police (no cell phone then). They came in, guns drawn, although the man had gone. He had robbed the house (he temporarily stored everything in the garbage bins in the alley, so we got it all back). When I came back to the house to meet the police, I found my cat (who apparently ran out the door as I ran) walking down the middle of the street crying plaintively to find me. That fear pheromone thing must be real.

Despite in the end losing nothing a unexpected light in the basement always caused cold fear in me thereafter.

And, oh, when the 911 dispatcher asked for a description of the man, I was unable to say “black” until she (herself obviously black) more or less ordered me to tell her. I even feel a little uneasy retailing this anecdote.

By: Another Mike

Another Mike — Tue, 25 Jan 2022 15:22:34 +0000

Rufus @ 11:41pm: There comes a time in the aging process when that “trust in feet” will become misplaced. Along with the ability to stand and defend one’s self unarmed. That is also the time in the process that you become more viable as a victim. Predators seek out victims for these reasons. Handling a weapon is a teachable skill,

The “only property crime” defense: consider the car theft. Many victims are people who need their car for work and are not financially able to use Uber or public transportation. Ex. construction laborer whose home and job site are not served by pub-trans. The theft creates a financial crisis for that family.

21-sec: Try searching for “Tuller (or Tueller) Drill”. TV and movies orchestrate their content to achieve a preconceived result…. not good for actual knowledge.

The problem is *perception* time. How far must an event or action progress before you realize, perceive, it as a threat? Therein lies the rub….

By: Rufus T. Firefly

Rufus T. Firefly — Tue, 25 Jan 2022 14:59:21 +0000

Erlod Penwhistle,

Well stated and I agree with your opinion.

By: om

om — Tue, 25 Jan 2022 14:25:44 +0000

There is a bodycam video of a woman LEO shooting (dead) a male knife attacker from 2020 in Michigan. She was not surprised, but it took many hits to stop him; she had to back up while firing, clear a malfunction, continue firing, and he finally collapsed and died. Both were white so it wasn’t a national incident.