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		By: R2L		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/01/19/open-thread-1-19-22/#comment-2602821</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2022 03:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TJ:  SJW&#039;s, perhaps ??
So much new language! Hard to keep up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TJ:  SJW&#8217;s, perhaps ??<br />
So much new language! Hard to keep up.</p>
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		By: TJ		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/01/19/open-thread-1-19-22/#comment-2602638</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2022 10:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes to physicsguy. Just say no to all doctors graduated from med school beginning 2019 and after.

Obama&#039;s minions radically &quot;reformed&quot; the MCAT admitting screen to load for SWJs.

Yeah, you read that right. Doctors are admitted for their social justice commitedness.

This entire new cohort must be rejected. Not just BIPOCs, though, as physicsguy does. But entire new and young classes who&#039;ve graduated from med school.

Or else you&#039;re taking on as your physician an SWJ. (Unless you personally know him or her to be otherwise.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes to physicsguy. Just say no to all doctors graduated from med school beginning 2019 and after.</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s minions radically &#8220;reformed&#8221; the MCAT admitting screen to load for SWJs.</p>
<p>Yeah, you read that right. Doctors are admitted for their social justice commitedness.</p>
<p>This entire new cohort must be rejected. Not just BIPOCs, though, as physicsguy does. But entire new and young classes who&#8217;ve graduated from med school.</p>
<p>Or else you&#8217;re taking on as your physician an SWJ. (Unless you personally know him or her to be otherwise.)</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/01/19/open-thread-1-19-22/#comment-2602628</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2022 07:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[While I was over at Quillette, I took the time to read this movie review.
https://quillette.com/2022/01/19/fatal-vision-a-review-of-joel-coens-macbeth/

Lots of ponderables in it that apply to the current political situation.
&lt;blockquote&gt;This, then, is a Macbeth for our contemporary moment, where it may indeed feel as though we have little personal autonomy over forces that work both beneath and above us. Entities we can do little to control, or even clearly identify—the bureaucratic rulings of government fiat, the priestly divinations of Silicon Valley’s latest algorithms, the therapeutic and professional experts who direct our social policies—these are the forces that move around us, often in inscrutable ways. Of course, in a liberal society, these forces are intended to work for our good, not, as in Coen’s Macbeth, toward our ill. The liberal belief is that humans are good. It is a flawed society which makes them turn toward evil. Let us fix the society, with our expert wisdom, and we will extinguish human wrongdoing. &lt;b&gt;Conveniently, it isn’t really a moral agent who does good or ill, but the record of malicious social forces that work upon an individual’s unconscious or social standing that is at fault.&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If you are a film fan or Shakespeare aficionado, or happily both, RTWT.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I was over at Quillette, I took the time to read this movie review.<br />
<a href="https://quillette.com/2022/01/19/fatal-vision-a-review-of-joel-coens-macbeth/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://quillette.com/2022/01/19/fatal-vision-a-review-of-joel-coens-macbeth/</a></p>
<p>Lots of ponderables in it that apply to the current political situation.</p>
<blockquote><p>This, then, is a Macbeth for our contemporary moment, where it may indeed feel as though we have little personal autonomy over forces that work both beneath and above us. Entities we can do little to control, or even clearly identify—the bureaucratic rulings of government fiat, the priestly divinations of Silicon Valley’s latest algorithms, the therapeutic and professional experts who direct our social policies—these are the forces that move around us, often in inscrutable ways. Of course, in a liberal society, these forces are intended to work for our good, not, as in Coen’s Macbeth, toward our ill. The liberal belief is that humans are good. It is a flawed society which makes them turn toward evil. Let us fix the society, with our expert wisdom, and we will extinguish human wrongdoing. <b>Conveniently, it isn’t really a moral agent who does good or ill, but the record of malicious social forces that work upon an individual’s unconscious or social standing that is at fault.</b>
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<p>If you are a film fan or Shakespeare aficionado, or happily both, RTWT.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/01/19/open-thread-1-19-22/#comment-2602627</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2022 07:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A companion piece to the Jordan Peterson post, via Powerline today.
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/01/hero-of-the-week.php
&lt;blockquote&gt;Stuart Reges, who is a professor of computer science and engineering at the University of Washington. UW encourages faculty there to include a land acknowledgement statement on their course syllibi, and Prof. Reges decided to do so, though with a twist: he decided to ground his “land acknowledgement” statement in Marxist economics with the following version:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
“I acknowledge that by the labor theory of property the Coast Salish people can claim historical ownership of almost none of the land currently occupied by the University of Washington.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

To be sure, the labor theory of value originates with Locke, but Marx’s application of Locke’s idea held that the value of the land over time should justly accrue to the people who added value to it, and that for the owners of the land to claim that value was to expropriate that value unjustly from the laborers who improved the place—in this case the builders and faculty of the University of Washington over a century.

&lt;b&gt;Well as the internet click-bait cliche goes, you’ll never guess what happened next! Actually of course you do: a campus uproar over Prof. Reges’s “offensive” and “hurtful” statement, which somehow makes his classroom less “inclusive.” &lt;/b&gt;The director of the school of UW’s computer science ordered Reges to remove the statement from his course syllabus, because “it is offensive and creates a toxic environment in your course.” Reges refused, whereupon the director of the school removed it online without Prof. Reges’s permission, violating the first principle of academic freedom in the classroom. Further, the university is now saying that professors who include a land acknowledgement statement must use a university-approved version. &lt;b&gt;In other words, at UW the land acknowledgement has become yet another coerced Maoist confession of collective guilt.&lt;/b&gt;

“I decided to see whether it was acceptable to present an alternate viewpoint,” said Reges. “Obviously their version of diversity does not include conservative viewpoints.” Of course not. “Diversity” on campus now means that while people look different, they must think the same thing.

UPDATE: This is not Prof. Reges’s first brush with the UW campus Stasi.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The link in the UPDATE references another post that Reges got flak for. 
Both are worth reading. 
https://quillette.com/2020/01/11/demoted-and-placed-on-probation/
&lt;blockquote&gt;
It all started in June 2018, when Quillette published my article, “Why Women Don’t Code,” and things picked up steam when Jordan Peterson shared a link to the article on his Twitter account. A burst of outrage and press coverage followed which I discussed in a follow-up piece. The original article was one of the ten most read pieces published by Quillette in 2018, and continues to generate interest. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

https://quillette.com/2018/06/19/why-women-dont-code/
&lt;blockquote&gt;Ever since Google fired James Damore for “advancing harmful gender stereotypes in our workplace,” those of us working in tech have been trying to figure out what we can and cannot say on the subject of diversity. You might imagine that a university would be more open to discussing his ideas, but my experience suggests otherwise.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Neo &#038; Co. discussed the Damore Affair thoroughly at the time, IIRC, but Prof. Reges gives some professional insight into the background and substance of the arguments.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A companion piece to the Jordan Peterson post, via Powerline today.<br />
<a href="https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/01/hero-of-the-week.php" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/01/hero-of-the-week.php</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Stuart Reges, who is a professor of computer science and engineering at the University of Washington. UW encourages faculty there to include a land acknowledgement statement on their course syllibi, and Prof. Reges decided to do so, though with a twist: he decided to ground his “land acknowledgement” statement in Marxist economics with the following version:</p>
<blockquote><p>
“I acknowledge that by the labor theory of property the Coast Salish people can claim historical ownership of almost none of the land currently occupied by the University of Washington.”</p></blockquote>
<p>To be sure, the labor theory of value originates with Locke, but Marx’s application of Locke’s idea held that the value of the land over time should justly accrue to the people who added value to it, and that for the owners of the land to claim that value was to expropriate that value unjustly from the laborers who improved the place—in this case the builders and faculty of the University of Washington over a century.</p>
<p><b>Well as the internet click-bait cliche goes, you’ll never guess what happened next! Actually of course you do: a campus uproar over Prof. Reges’s “offensive” and “hurtful” statement, which somehow makes his classroom less “inclusive.” </b>The director of the school of UW’s computer science ordered Reges to remove the statement from his course syllabus, because “it is offensive and creates a toxic environment in your course.” Reges refused, whereupon the director of the school removed it online without Prof. Reges’s permission, violating the first principle of academic freedom in the classroom. Further, the university is now saying that professors who include a land acknowledgement statement must use a university-approved version. <b>In other words, at UW the land acknowledgement has become yet another coerced Maoist confession of collective guilt.</b></p>
<p>“I decided to see whether it was acceptable to present an alternate viewpoint,” said Reges. “Obviously their version of diversity does not include conservative viewpoints.” Of course not. “Diversity” on campus now means that while people look different, they must think the same thing.</p>
<p>UPDATE: This is not Prof. Reges’s first brush with the UW campus Stasi.
</p></blockquote>
<p>The link in the UPDATE references another post that Reges got flak for.<br />
Both are worth reading.<br />
<a href="https://quillette.com/2020/01/11/demoted-and-placed-on-probation/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://quillette.com/2020/01/11/demoted-and-placed-on-probation/</a></p>
<blockquote><p>
It all started in June 2018, when Quillette published my article, “Why Women Don’t Code,” and things picked up steam when Jordan Peterson shared a link to the article on his Twitter account. A burst of outrage and press coverage followed which I discussed in a follow-up piece. The original article was one of the ten most read pieces published by Quillette in 2018, and continues to generate interest.
</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="https://quillette.com/2018/06/19/why-women-dont-code/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://quillette.com/2018/06/19/why-women-dont-code/</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Ever since Google fired James Damore for “advancing harmful gender stereotypes in our workplace,” those of us working in tech have been trying to figure out what we can and cannot say on the subject of diversity. You might imagine that a university would be more open to discussing his ideas, but my experience suggests otherwise.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Neo &amp; Co. discussed the Damore Affair thoroughly at the time, IIRC, but Prof. Reges gives some professional insight into the background and substance of the arguments.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/01/19/open-thread-1-19-22/#comment-2602621</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2022 07:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On the Jordan Peterson video: I listened to it on the Reddit thread, as well as reading along in the Canadian National Post, which published the article that Peterson is reading. 

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/jordan-peterson-why-i-am-no-longer-a-tenured-professor-at-the-university-of-toronto]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the Jordan Peterson video: I listened to it on the Reddit thread, as well as reading along in the Canadian National Post, which published the article that Peterson is reading. </p>
<p><a href="https://nationalpost.com/opinion/jordan-peterson-why-i-am-no-longer-a-tenured-professor-at-the-university-of-toronto" rel="nofollow ugc">https://nationalpost.com/opinion/jordan-peterson-why-i-am-no-longer-a-tenured-professor-at-the-university-of-toronto</a></p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/01/19/open-thread-1-19-22/#comment-2602619</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2022 06:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Zaphod in re Carlson video at BRM - the commenter there named Aesop is not me.
Just in case the CIA is monitoring.

Commenter Eric passes on this tip: &quot;Fox News doesn&#039;t seem to like links from Blogspot, or something. I&#039;ve seen this before.
I just hit ENTER on the URL bar, and the page loaded - so it&#039;s a valid URL, and I have access to it, but the server is blocking some or all outside referrers. Copying the URL and pasting it into the browser should also work.&quot;

I haven&#039;t tried it; I did get an access denied notice and haven&#039;t bothered because the excerpt at BRM was sufficient.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Zaphod in re Carlson video at BRM &#8211; the commenter there named Aesop is not me.<br />
Just in case the CIA is monitoring.</p>
<p>Commenter Eric passes on this tip: &#8220;Fox News doesn&#8217;t seem to like links from Blogspot, or something. I&#8217;ve seen this before.<br />
I just hit ENTER on the URL bar, and the page loaded &#8211; so it&#8217;s a valid URL, and I have access to it, but the server is blocking some or all outside referrers. Copying the URL and pasting it into the browser should also work.&#8221;</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t tried it; I did get an access denied notice and haven&#8217;t bothered because the excerpt at BRM was sufficient.</p>
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		By: Zaphod		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2022 05:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@huxley:

To be more precise, the Censorship and Gatekeeping are pervasive. When one sees someone still around with a large following on a popular platform and not cancelled yet being &#039;Edgy Right Wing&#039;... one needs to stop and think &#039;Why is this one still here? Which issues does he shut down? Which issues doesn&#039;t he talk about ever?&#039;


&quot;I would kick in some $$ to Manchin’s and Sinema’s security funds, if there were a place to send it.&quot;

If you do so, suggest you avoid anything involves payment processors. Plenty of folks to the right of the Overton Window have had their PayPal, Credit Cards, and even regular banking facilities cancelled because they sent money to support a person or organisation disapproved of by these private entities. Zero overt government involvement.

Remember your Social Credit Score, Citizen!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@huxley:</p>
<p>To be more precise, the Censorship and Gatekeeping are pervasive. When one sees someone still around with a large following on a popular platform and not cancelled yet being &#8216;Edgy Right Wing&#8217;&#8230; one needs to stop and think &#8216;Why is this one still here? Which issues does he shut down? Which issues doesn&#8217;t he talk about ever?&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8220;I would kick in some $$ to Manchin’s and Sinema’s security funds, if there were a place to send it.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you do so, suggest you avoid anything involves payment processors. Plenty of folks to the right of the Overton Window have had their PayPal, Credit Cards, and even regular banking facilities cancelled because they sent money to support a person or organisation disapproved of by these private entities. Zero overt government involvement.</p>
<p>Remember your Social Credit Score, Citizen!</p>
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		By: Zaphod		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2022 05:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Huxley:

The censorship is pervasive.

As you know, I follow some YouTube commentators who are rather more &#039;Crunchy&#039; than Tucker. They&#039;ve mostly had to relocate to Odysee or Gab TV or otherwise speak in code. Was listening to one of the Academic Agent&#039;s panel discussions yesterday and a participant was talking about vaccination mandates -- he used &#039;penetration&#039; and some circumlocution for &#039;mandate&#039;... Any direct reference and you get a channel strike. This has to be done for every contentious issue: Race, Feminism, Climate Science, Usual Suspects (sorry Usual Suspects!), Covid, CRT, Transgenderism, etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Huxley:</p>
<p>The censorship is pervasive.</p>
<p>As you know, I follow some YouTube commentators who are rather more &#8216;Crunchy&#8217; than Tucker. They&#8217;ve mostly had to relocate to Odysee or Gab TV or otherwise speak in code. Was listening to one of the Academic Agent&#8217;s panel discussions yesterday and a participant was talking about vaccination mandates &#8212; he used &#8216;penetration&#8217; and some circumlocution for &#8216;mandate&#8217;&#8230; Any direct reference and you get a channel strike. This has to be done for every contentious issue: Race, Feminism, Climate Science, Usual Suspects (sorry Usual Suspects!), Covid, CRT, Transgenderism, etc.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2022 05:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: Tucker link...

Zaphod:

A commenter to &quot;Bayou Renaissance Man&quot; mentioned the Tucker link from Fox was denied on &quot;Chrome, Yandex, Edge, Firefox, and Opera.&quot;

Sonofagun. The Brave browser did the trick, but this is getting creepy.

The prog overreach is clear and the Dems will be clobbered in November. They are desperate and the main danger IMO is what they will do out of desperation.

I would kick in some $$ to Manchin&#039;s and Sinema&#039;s security funds, if there were a place to send it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Tucker link&#8230;</p>
<p>Zaphod:</p>
<p>A commenter to &#8220;Bayou Renaissance Man&#8221; mentioned the Tucker link from Fox was denied on &#8220;Chrome, Yandex, Edge, Firefox, and Opera.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sonofagun. The Brave browser did the trick, but this is getting creepy.</p>
<p>The prog overreach is clear and the Dems will be clobbered in November. They are desperate and the main danger IMO is what they will do out of desperation.</p>
<p>I would kick in some $$ to Manchin&#8217;s and Sinema&#8217;s security funds, if there were a place to send it.</p>
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		By: Zaphod		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2022 05:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[More on the Hong Kong Hamster Holocaust:

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3164000/hong-kong-hamster-cull-top-covid-19-expert

Furthermore, I’m instructed by my CCP Paymasters to pass along a reassurance to a Mister Richard Gere that thus far no Aktions are planned against any Gerbils.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More on the Hong Kong Hamster Holocaust:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3164000/hong-kong-hamster-cull-top-covid-19-expert" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3164000/hong-kong-hamster-cull-top-covid-19-expert</a></p>
<p>Furthermore, I’m instructed by my CCP Paymasters to pass along a reassurance to a Mister Richard Gere that thus far no Aktions are planned against any Gerbils.</p>
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