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		By: R2L		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Upthread, two options for providing on-going medication were suggested: monthly shots or implanted medication.
Does anyone here have sufficient knowledge to educate us further about those options? Success? Problems/issues? Etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Upthread, two options for providing on-going medication were suggested: monthly shots or implanted medication.<br />
Does anyone here have sufficient knowledge to educate us further about those options? Success? Problems/issues? Etc.</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2022 02:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John Guilfoyle on January 19, 2022 at 9:11 pm said:	

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;And just like that an otherwise prime opportunity to have a rational discussion devolves into a playground pissing contest.

Another day ending in “y” it would seem.
Did the Boss fire all the bouncers?&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Disappointed as you may be, I&#039;d like to be allowed to point a couple- three things out.

The first is that my taking notice of, and then eventually responding to X, has not really prevented anyone else from continuing to comment on the mental illness social disaster along whatever lines they wish.

The subject of much comment here and on the Internet generally - including Tucker Carlson most recently - is how the mentally ill persist in their annoying patterns of getting into the faces of others, until some unfortunate result is provoked; and how this is perfectly predictable.

And too, if somewhat ironically, one might see in your complaint a kind of localized example of just what does eventually occur to the social infrastructure when those possessed by irrational drives and needs to make their presence felt on unwelcoming others, are neither held in check nor corrected.

What we have here is actually a paradigm case of the urban situation writ small.

Something to consider as we ponder the wisdom of letting the mentally ill run rampant in any context, and what the natural fall out tends to be.

If anyone distressed or disappointed by the previous exchange finds the prospect comforting, they may know that I plan on going back to ignoring those camping on my doorstep, and will allow the city government to handle the matter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Guilfoyle on January 19, 2022 at 9:11 pm said:	</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;And just like that an otherwise prime opportunity to have a rational discussion devolves into a playground pissing contest.</p>
<p>Another day ending in “y” it would seem.<br />
Did the Boss fire all the bouncers?&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Disappointed as you may be, I&#8217;d like to be allowed to point a couple- three things out.</p>
<p>The first is that my taking notice of, and then eventually responding to X, has not really prevented anyone else from continuing to comment on the mental illness social disaster along whatever lines they wish.</p>
<p>The subject of much comment here and on the Internet generally &#8211; including Tucker Carlson most recently &#8211; is how the mentally ill persist in their annoying patterns of getting into the faces of others, until some unfortunate result is provoked; and how this is perfectly predictable.</p>
<p>And too, if somewhat ironically, one might see in your complaint a kind of localized example of just what does eventually occur to the social infrastructure when those possessed by irrational drives and needs to make their presence felt on unwelcoming others, are neither held in check nor corrected.</p>
<p>What we have here is actually a paradigm case of the urban situation writ small.</p>
<p>Something to consider as we ponder the wisdom of letting the mentally ill run rampant in any context, and what the natural fall out tends to be.</p>
<p>If anyone distressed or disappointed by the previous exchange finds the prospect comforting, they may know that I plan on going back to ignoring those camping on my doorstep, and will allow the city government to handle the matter.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2022 02:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Philosophers are like that, and I don&#039;t even pretend to be one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philosophers are like that, and I don&#8217;t even pretend to be one.</p>
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		By: John Guilfoyle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Guilfoyle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2022 02:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And just like that an otherwise prime opportunity to have a rational discussion devolves into a playground pissing contest.

Another day ending in &quot;y&quot; it would seem.
Did the Boss fire all the bouncers?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And just like that an otherwise prime opportunity to have a rational discussion devolves into a playground pissing contest.</p>
<p>Another day ending in &#8220;y&#8221; it would seem.<br />
Did the Boss fire all the bouncers?</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2022 01:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[DNW:

You do get paid by the word, it seems, but by who and why?  

You may want to curb the rage and hostility; those can be bad things unchecked. But enough about you and your issues.

DNW, he could have been a contender.

Cheers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DNW:</p>
<p>You do get paid by the word, it seems, but by who and why?  </p>
<p>You may want to curb the rage and hostility; those can be bad things unchecked. But enough about you and your issues.</p>
<p>DNW, he could have been a contender.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DNW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2022 01:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;You and Z can form The Society of Sand Pounding Philosophers. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Better to publicly pound sand, than one&#039;s own pud as you do, Om. In any event, you are certainly not a philosopher; sand pounding or otherwise. 

Nor, obviously, are you a logician, competent or otherwise.

Nor, are you capable of making an even elementary argument, contenting yourself instead, with chasing around and yapping at those who can and who do, until you get noticed.

Nor, finally, and as your latest question demonstrates, are you minimally familiar with basic punctuation rules. For if you were, you manifestly would not need to ask who the &quot; &#039;we&#039; &quot; I referred to was, once you noticed the quotation marks around the word, and the fact that it was located beneath a block indent quotation. That was the &quot;we&quot; referred to.

Sometimes I almost feel more pity for you, than contempt, Om. Please, help us all, and yourself, by finding something more constructive to do.

I don&#039;t really like writing this kind of thing. But it is something you need to confront for your own good.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You and Z can form The Society of Sand Pounding Philosophers. </p></blockquote>
<p>Better to publicly pound sand, than one&#8217;s own pud as you do, Om. In any event, you are certainly not a philosopher; sand pounding or otherwise. </p>
<p>Nor, obviously, are you a logician, competent or otherwise.</p>
<p>Nor, are you capable of making an even elementary argument, contenting yourself instead, with chasing around and yapping at those who can and who do, until you get noticed.</p>
<p>Nor, finally, and as your latest question demonstrates, are you minimally familiar with basic punctuation rules. For if you were, you manifestly would not need to ask who the &#8221; &#8216;we&#8217; &#8221; I referred to was, once you noticed the quotation marks around the word, and the fact that it was located beneath a block indent quotation. That was the &#8220;we&#8221; referred to.</p>
<p>Sometimes I almost feel more pity for you, than contempt, Om. Please, help us all, and yourself, by finding something more constructive to do.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really like writing this kind of thing. But it is something you need to confront for your own good.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2022 00:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[DNW:

You and Z can form The Society of Sand Pounding Philosophers.  

Are you paid by the word?  What after all, is in it for you, you of the royal &quot;we?&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DNW:</p>
<p>You and Z can form The Society of Sand Pounding Philosophers.  </p>
<p>Are you paid by the word?  What after all, is in it for you, you of the royal &#8220;we?&#8221;</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DNW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2022 23:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Go bite a rolling tire Om.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go bite a rolling tire Om.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/01/18/why-was-martial-simon-free-to-kill-michelle-go/#comment-2602496</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2022 21:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The philosopher is annoyed, hope he doesn&#039;t flip out.  :)

Who is this &quot;we&quot; he speaks of?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The philosopher is annoyed, hope he doesn&#8217;t flip out.  🙂</p>
<p>Who is this &#8220;we&#8221; he speaks of?</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2022 21:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[neo on January 19, 2022 at 3:43 pm said:	

&lt;blockquote&gt;Jimmy:

As I’ve said in other comments, in the 1950s we locked up a lot of people who should not have been locked up. &quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Any stats or references on that?

And of course, &quot;we&quot; were not locking them up, as we were either not alive or of an age to do so at the time.

The states were locking them up.

Insofar as goes a conspiracy such as one might have seen imagined or portrayed in an Alfred Hitchcock television drama, where a little old lady is cheated out of her liberty and estate by a dissolute son and a scheming daughter-in-law, it is obvious that a manifest injustice is occurring.

However, In the case of some behaviorally erratic and irrational person who persistently gets in the face of strangers - who owe him or it or whatever NOTHING - and annoys or even menaces them, then institutionalization might be the better option, than would be their applying the ultimate right of self-help which the normal folks have to eventually rectify the situation, and liberate themselves from the oppression of the insane.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>neo on January 19, 2022 at 3:43 pm said:	</p>
<blockquote><p>Jimmy:</p>
<p>As I’ve said in other comments, in the 1950s we locked up a lot of people who should not have been locked up. &#8220;</p></blockquote>
<p>Any stats or references on that?</p>
<p>And of course, &#8220;we&#8221; were not locking them up, as we were either not alive or of an age to do so at the time.</p>
<p>The states were locking them up.</p>
<p>Insofar as goes a conspiracy such as one might have seen imagined or portrayed in an Alfred Hitchcock television drama, where a little old lady is cheated out of her liberty and estate by a dissolute son and a scheming daughter-in-law, it is obvious that a manifest injustice is occurring.</p>
<p>However, In the case of some behaviorally erratic and irrational person who persistently gets in the face of strangers &#8211; who owe him or it or whatever NOTHING &#8211; and annoys or even menaces them, then institutionalization might be the better option, than would be their applying the ultimate right of self-help which the normal folks have to eventually rectify the situation, and liberate themselves from the oppression of the insane.</p>
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