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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/01/13/sinema/#comment-2601804</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jan 2022 08:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ mkent &#062; &quot;I would not be at all surprised if by this time next year Pelosi and Biden simply declare the Republican party a terrorist organization and move to abolish it.&quot;

They are already doing that. 
Tucker Carlson - close to the end of this segment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF5Bb3Mt0rg
&quot;Tucker: This is worse than we thought&quot;

And this:
https://notthebee.com/article/biden-just-called-yall-domestic-enemies-if-you-disagree-with-him]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ mkent &gt; &#8220;I would not be at all surprised if by this time next year Pelosi and Biden simply declare the Republican party a terrorist organization and move to abolish it.&#8221;</p>
<p>They are already doing that.<br />
Tucker Carlson &#8211; close to the end of this segment.<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF5Bb3Mt0rg" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF5Bb3Mt0rg</a><br />
&#8220;Tucker: This is worse than we thought&#8221;</p>
<p>And this:<br />
<a href="https://notthebee.com/article/biden-just-called-yall-domestic-enemies-if-you-disagree-with-him" rel="nofollow ugc">https://notthebee.com/article/biden-just-called-yall-domestic-enemies-if-you-disagree-with-him</a></p>
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		By: mkent		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/01/13/sinema/#comment-2601448</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2022 21:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;The flip side, somewhat, is that any AZ (Sinema, Giffords/Kelly), and probably GA Senators who vote for HR-1 can probably kiss their Senate seats goodbye.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

No, they won&#039;t!  With all due respect, you don&#039;t get it.  With the voting fraud bill now a certainty, Democrats in Phoenix and Atlanta will simply manufacture as many &quot;votes&quot; as needed to assure victory.  Arizona, Georgia, Virginia, Louisiana, Texas, Florida, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania are now permanently blue states.  Probably North Carolina, Missouri, and Tennessee as well.

I would not be at all surprised if by this time next year Pelosi and Biden simply declare the Republican party a terrorist organization and move to abolish it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;The flip side, somewhat, is that any AZ (Sinema, Giffords/Kelly), and probably GA Senators who vote for HR-1 can probably kiss their Senate seats goodbye.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>No, they won&#8217;t!  With all due respect, you don&#8217;t get it.  With the voting fraud bill now a certainty, Democrats in Phoenix and Atlanta will simply manufacture as many &#8220;votes&#8221; as needed to assure victory.  Arizona, Georgia, Virginia, Louisiana, Texas, Florida, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania are now permanently blue states.  Probably North Carolina, Missouri, and Tennessee as well.</p>
<p>I would not be at all surprised if by this time next year Pelosi and Biden simply declare the Republican party a terrorist organization and move to abolish it.</p>
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		By: baltimoron		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/01/13/sinema/#comment-2601437</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2022 20:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Frederick
OK, but my question was what exactly is the &quot;fix&quot; in this case and who&#039;s behind it. We&#039;ll probably never know the full story, but it is fun to speculate.

Personally I think it is a combination of the two things I mentioned above. The Democrats originally thought that they could pressure Sinema to side with them and Sinema realized that by holding firm she could present herself as a moderate to the voters back home. Now they&#039;re stuck in this go round where no one can back down without losing face. 
Schumer, Biden and the media also can&#039;t switch to target another senator at this point. It would make them look weak and it would alienate the other senator from the party base for no good reason.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frederick<br />
OK, but my question was what exactly is the &#8220;fix&#8221; in this case and who&#8217;s behind it. We&#8217;ll probably never know the full story, but it is fun to speculate.</p>
<p>Personally I think it is a combination of the two things I mentioned above. The Democrats originally thought that they could pressure Sinema to side with them and Sinema realized that by holding firm she could present herself as a moderate to the voters back home. Now they&#8217;re stuck in this go round where no one can back down without losing face.<br />
Schumer, Biden and the media also can&#8217;t switch to target another senator at this point. It would make them look weak and it would alienate the other senator from the party base for no good reason.</p>
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		By: Frederick		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/01/13/sinema/#comment-2601432</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2022 19:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@baltimoron:&lt;i&gt;how did Sinema end up being THE senator holding up the federal elections bill? &lt;/i&gt;

Same way McCain did for repealing Obamacare, fix was in and someone needs to take the heat for the others, someone who can survive it with their own voters.

Insurance industry insiders were never, ever worried about Obamacare repeal. They knew all along.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@baltimoron:<i>how did Sinema end up being THE senator holding up the federal elections bill? </i></p>
<p>Same way McCain did for repealing Obamacare, fix was in and someone needs to take the heat for the others, someone who can survive it with their own voters.</p>
<p>Insurance industry insiders were never, ever worried about Obamacare repeal. They knew all along.</p>
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		By: baltimoron		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/01/13/sinema/#comment-2601431</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2022 19:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Its curious to me how Kyrsten Sinema ended up at the center of this whole thing to begin with. She&#039;s hardly the only Democrat in the Senate who wants to block &#039;voting rights&#039; legislation. Does anyone here think that Jon Tester wants to have a vote on this bill?
So question: how did Sinema end up being THE senator holding up the federal elections bill? Is it because the Democrats think she&#039;s the one they can bully into switching sides? Or maybe she&#039;s bringing attention on herself because she thinks standing against Chuck Schumer and Joe Biden helps her image?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its curious to me how Kyrsten Sinema ended up at the center of this whole thing to begin with. She&#8217;s hardly the only Democrat in the Senate who wants to block &#8216;voting rights&#8217; legislation. Does anyone here think that Jon Tester wants to have a vote on this bill?<br />
So question: how did Sinema end up being THE senator holding up the federal elections bill? Is it because the Democrats think she&#8217;s the one they can bully into switching sides? Or maybe she&#8217;s bringing attention on herself because she thinks standing against Chuck Schumer and Joe Biden helps her image?</p>
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		By: Frederick		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/01/13/sinema/#comment-2601415</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2022 18:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Martin:&lt;i&gt;Frankly, I wouldn’t mind a constitutional amendment to make a 60% vote require to pass bills all the time. &lt;/i&gt;

And I&#039;m sure that the Harlem Globetrotters would make a fine NBA team that could play real basketball and do well. &lt;i&gt;But that&#039;s not the business they are in.&lt;/i&gt; What would put them out of their real business and into a different one? People not spending money to watch the show.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Martin:<i>Frankly, I wouldn’t mind a constitutional amendment to make a 60% vote require to pass bills all the time. </i></p>
<p>And I&#8217;m sure that the Harlem Globetrotters would make a fine NBA team that could play real basketball and do well. <i>But that&#8217;s not the business they are in.</i> What would put them out of their real business and into a different one? People not spending money to watch the show.</p>
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		By: Martin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/01/13/sinema/#comment-2601414</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2022 18:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Frankly, I wouldn&#039;t mind a constitutional amendment to make a 60% vote require to pass bills all the time. If you can&#039;t get 60% in a Republic it probably shouldn&#039;t be done.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, I wouldn&#8217;t mind a constitutional amendment to make a 60% vote require to pass bills all the time. If you can&#8217;t get 60% in a Republic it probably shouldn&#8217;t be done.</p>
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		By: Frederick		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/01/13/sinema/#comment-2601406</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2022 17:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Bruce Hayden:&lt;i&gt; But Kelly/Giffords and one Senator from GA, elected through voter fraud in 2020, are up for reelection. &lt;/i&gt;

1. How convenient that HR-1, er, HR-5746 makes elections easier for Democrats to win in part by making it harder to detect fraud.
2. What good does it do the country to have it enacted into law but later two Senators lose their seats over it? This happened with Obamacare, did it not.  And then the R&#039;s got majorities in both Houses and promptly repealed it.

Oh wait that didn&#039;t happen. See there was this filibuster.  Obamacare was passed by an end run around the filibuster, and debt ceiling was raised in December by an end run around the filibuster, and HR-1 excuse me HR 5746 will be passed by end run around the filibuster, but for repealing Obamacare, or HR 5746, the filibuster is an absolute barrier, unthinkable to abolish without abandoning hallowed Senate tradition and republican norms.

Are we tired of being played yet or do we need to have the lesson a few dozen more times?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bruce Hayden:<i> But Kelly/Giffords and one Senator from GA, elected through voter fraud in 2020, are up for reelection. </i></p>
<p>1. How convenient that HR-1, er, HR-5746 makes elections easier for Democrats to win in part by making it harder to detect fraud.<br />
2. What good does it do the country to have it enacted into law but later two Senators lose their seats over it? This happened with Obamacare, did it not.  And then the R&#8217;s got majorities in both Houses and promptly repealed it.</p>
<p>Oh wait that didn&#8217;t happen. See there was this filibuster.  Obamacare was passed by an end run around the filibuster, and debt ceiling was raised in December by an end run around the filibuster, and HR-1 excuse me HR 5746 will be passed by end run around the filibuster, but for repealing Obamacare, or HR 5746, the filibuster is an absolute barrier, unthinkable to abolish without abandoning hallowed Senate tradition and republican norms.</p>
<p>Are we tired of being played yet or do we need to have the lesson a few dozen more times?</p>
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		By: Bruce Hayden		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/01/13/sinema/#comment-2601404</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2022 17:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“ She’s going to keep her seat because she “fought so hard for the filibuster” and the media is going to hype that up as they’ve been doing. And she won’t be voting for HR 1, no she voted for HR 5746…”

Saw that after I posted. But Kelly/Giffords and one Senator from GA, elected through voter fraud in 2020, are up for reelection. I don’t think that it is over until it is over.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“ She’s going to keep her seat because she “fought so hard for the filibuster” and the media is going to hype that up as they’ve been doing. And she won’t be voting for HR 1, no she voted for HR 5746…”</p>
<p>Saw that after I posted. But Kelly/Giffords and one Senator from GA, elected through voter fraud in 2020, are up for reelection. I don’t think that it is over until it is over.</p>
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		By: Frederick		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/01/13/sinema/#comment-2601396</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2022 15:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Bruce: &lt;i&gt;The flip side, somewhat, is that any AZ (Sinema, Giffords/Kelly), and probably GA Senators who vote for HR-1 can probably kiss their Senate seats goodbye. &lt;/i&gt;

You&#039;re out of date. The NASA Enhanced Use Leasing Extension Act, already passed by the Senate and cannot be filibustered, has been hollowed out by the House and is now the “Freedom to Vote: John R. Lewis Act.”  Sinema promised to support it yesterday while she was &quot;defending the filibuster&quot; and Republicans were praising her.

She&#039;s going to keep her seat because she &quot;fought so hard for the filibuster&quot; and the media is going to hype that up as they&#039;ve been doing. And she won&#039;t be voting for HR 1, no she voted for HR 5746...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bruce: <i>The flip side, somewhat, is that any AZ (Sinema, Giffords/Kelly), and probably GA Senators who vote for HR-1 can probably kiss their Senate seats goodbye. </i></p>
<p>You&#8217;re out of date. The NASA Enhanced Use Leasing Extension Act, already passed by the Senate and cannot be filibustered, has been hollowed out by the House and is now the “Freedom to Vote: John R. Lewis Act.”  Sinema promised to support it yesterday while she was &#8220;defending the filibuster&#8221; and Republicans were praising her.</p>
<p>She&#8217;s going to keep her seat because she &#8220;fought so hard for the filibuster&#8221; and the media is going to hype that up as they&#8217;ve been doing. And she won&#8217;t be voting for HR 1, no she voted for HR 5746&#8230;</p>
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