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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/01/01/covid-tests/#comment-2599023</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[Barry Meislin,

Not sure about that stat, but there is no question there are many suicides and drug overdoses related to public policy around the COVID-19 virus. And the average amount of weight gain in the past two years among Americans, especially the young, cannot bode well for future health outcomes.

My former employer was financially devastated by the pandemic, putting me on the streets. The ensuing 14 months of stress in looking, interviewing, scrambling to adjust the budget... has definitely impacted my and my wife&#039;s health and there are millions of Americans who have gone through similar, lockdown induced struggles.

Everyone I know who have elderly family members in care facilities has seen a huge decline in their loved ones&#039; cognitive and physical function (and many have simply died in the past 20 months). My parents still live independently, but they feel the lockdowns and lack of human interaction and activity have taken years off their lives.

We won&#039;t have hard numbers for several years, but it seems definite the overall impact of public policy and the lack of emphasis on good health and preventative measures will prove to show more harm than the virus itself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry Meislin,</p>
<p>Not sure about that stat, but there is no question there are many suicides and drug overdoses related to public policy around the COVID-19 virus. And the average amount of weight gain in the past two years among Americans, especially the young, cannot bode well for future health outcomes.</p>
<p>My former employer was financially devastated by the pandemic, putting me on the streets. The ensuing 14 months of stress in looking, interviewing, scrambling to adjust the budget&#8230; has definitely impacted my and my wife&#8217;s health and there are millions of Americans who have gone through similar, lockdown induced struggles.</p>
<p>Everyone I know who have elderly family members in care facilities has seen a huge decline in their loved ones&#8217; cognitive and physical function (and many have simply died in the past 20 months). My parents still live independently, but they feel the lockdowns and lack of human interaction and activity have taken years off their lives.</p>
<p>We won&#8217;t have hard numbers for several years, but it seems definite the overall impact of public policy and the lack of emphasis on good health and preventative measures will prove to show more harm than the virus itself.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/01/01/covid-tests/#comment-2599016</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2022 17:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[FWIW, it&#039;s getting weird out there:
&quot;Life Insurance CEO Says Deaths Up 40% Among Those Aged 18-64&quot;---
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/life-insurance-ceo-says-deaths-40-among-those-aged-18-64-and-not-because-covid

Who knows if it&#039;s true? Who knows if it has anything to do with the Covid virus or (and/or?) with the vaccination? But it seems strangely high.

In any event, whatever your personal situation, it might be wise to continue to take quercetin (or equivalent, e.g., ivermectin, HCQ---quercetin, I believe, should be more accessible and also cheaper) + zinc and vitamins D3, K, C, B&#039;s and selenium...and perhaps a recommended nasal spray).
(Note, though, that one shouldn&#039;t take too much zinc or selenium; I&#039;m not sure about the zinc dosage; but for selenium, one---but no more than two---Brazil nuts per day is recommended.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, it&#8217;s getting weird out there:<br />
&#8220;Life Insurance CEO Says Deaths Up 40% Among Those Aged 18-64&#8221;&#8212;<br />
<a href="https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/life-insurance-ceo-says-deaths-40-among-those-aged-18-64-and-not-because-covid" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/life-insurance-ceo-says-deaths-40-among-those-aged-18-64-and-not-because-covid</a></p>
<p>Who knows if it&#8217;s true? Who knows if it has anything to do with the Covid virus or (and/or?) with the vaccination? But it seems strangely high.</p>
<p>In any event, whatever your personal situation, it might be wise to continue to take quercetin (or equivalent, e.g., ivermectin, HCQ&#8212;quercetin, I believe, should be more accessible and also cheaper) + zinc and vitamins D3, K, C, B&#8217;s and selenium&#8230;and perhaps a recommended nasal spray).<br />
(Note, though, that one shouldn&#8217;t take too much zinc or selenium; I&#8217;m not sure about the zinc dosage; but for selenium, one&#8212;but no more than two&#8212;Brazil nuts per day is recommended.)</p>
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		By: Griffin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/01/01/covid-tests/#comment-2599015</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2022 17:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If only we all could have a governor like Ron DeSantis.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only we all could have a governor like Ron DeSantis.</p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/01/01/covid-tests/#comment-2599009</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2022 16:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To Sharon W.&#039;s point, in my personal experience it seems important to many people (perhaps most all of us) to be very binary regarding a COVID-19 infection.

I know many people who seem to want to be able to state that they have had it. So much so that I&#039;ve heard people state things like, &quot;Well, I tested negative, but based on my symptoms I&#039;m &lt;strong&gt;SURE&lt;/strong&gt; I had it,&quot; or, &quot;I felt sick but didn&#039;t bother to get tested but I&#039;m sure it was COVID.&quot;

I also know many people who are nearly pious about the disease not having hit any member of their household and ask very personal, probing questions when we relate tales of anyone we know who has gotten it. It&#039;s very much like an &quot;unclean&quot; vibe.

This is why, if given the opportunity to test from home, at will, I think many will be manic about testing regardless of severity of symptoms. I used to joke that I should have invested in one of the companies that makes home pregnancy kits when I got married. Seemed like every time she brushed her teeth my wife would also do a pregnancy test! :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Sharon W.&#8217;s point, in my personal experience it seems important to many people (perhaps most all of us) to be very binary regarding a COVID-19 infection.</p>
<p>I know many people who seem to want to be able to state that they have had it. So much so that I&#8217;ve heard people state things like, &#8220;Well, I tested negative, but based on my symptoms I&#8217;m <strong>SURE</strong> I had it,&#8221; or, &#8220;I felt sick but didn&#8217;t bother to get tested but I&#8217;m sure it was COVID.&#8221;</p>
<p>I also know many people who are nearly pious about the disease not having hit any member of their household and ask very personal, probing questions when we relate tales of anyone we know who has gotten it. It&#8217;s very much like an &#8220;unclean&#8221; vibe.</p>
<p>This is why, if given the opportunity to test from home, at will, I think many will be manic about testing regardless of severity of symptoms. I used to joke that I should have invested in one of the companies that makes home pregnancy kits when I got married. Seemed like every time she brushed her teeth my wife would also do a pregnancy test! 🙂</p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/01/01/covid-tests/#comment-2599007</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2022 16:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So, one of my kids is triple-vac&#039;ced. Just got her booster in Europe a month ago. Guess who tested positive for COVID yesterday? She&#039;s healthy, thin, runs and works out regularly, eats tons of fruits and vegetables... She&#039;s fairly ill. Seems like she&#039;ll recover just fine, but she&#039;s more than half my age and seems as sick as I was when I got it back in the Alpha variant, pre-vaccine days.

No idea how or where she got it. Of my kids she is by far the most COVID-cautious. Always wears a mask in public. Has been tied at the hip to her double-vac&#039;ced boyfriend for the past two weeks. He is fine, no COVID.

In the past 2 - 3 weeks many of our most COVID cautious friends and family have had it hit their homes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, one of my kids is triple-vac&#8217;ced. Just got her booster in Europe a month ago. Guess who tested positive for COVID yesterday? She&#8217;s healthy, thin, runs and works out regularly, eats tons of fruits and vegetables&#8230; She&#8217;s fairly ill. Seems like she&#8217;ll recover just fine, but she&#8217;s more than half my age and seems as sick as I was when I got it back in the Alpha variant, pre-vaccine days.</p>
<p>No idea how or where she got it. Of my kids she is by far the most COVID-cautious. Always wears a mask in public. Has been tied at the hip to her double-vac&#8217;ced boyfriend for the past two weeks. He is fine, no COVID.</p>
<p>In the past 2 &#8211; 3 weeks many of our most COVID cautious friends and family have had it hit their homes.</p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/01/01/covid-tests/#comment-2599006</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2022 16:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[PA+Cat and physicsguy,

That&#039;s a great, real-world example of how at home test kits will cause more harm than good. Many people will want to test themselves daily. There will be no way to meet the demand and a lot of the results will be inaccurate. GIGO.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PA+Cat and physicsguy,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a great, real-world example of how at home test kits will cause more harm than good. Many people will want to test themselves daily. There will be no way to meet the demand and a lot of the results will be inaccurate. GIGO.</p>
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		By: physicsguy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/01/01/covid-tests/#comment-2598997</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2022 15:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[PA+cat,   yeah...as I posted above the fear in my old hometown, Lebanon, CT, is amazing.  What&#039;s even more amazing is that it&#039;s a farming community where the chickens and cows out number the people by a large amount.  It&#039;s always been a bit more blue than red, but more balance than the rest of the state.  A place where there generally is some common sense. 

I really can&#039;t believe it&#039;s changed so much in 4 months since I left.  Even this morning more FB posts on people upset that the town&#039;s allotment of N95s and test kits ran out after an hour and half.  I just can&#039;t believe the panic level. If the mass psychosis has hit a place like Lebanon, who knows where it will spread.

Here in the Fernandina Beach area, life seems pretty normal.  I suspect it may be different in Miami area as about 60% of all the state cases are in Broward, Dade, and Palm Beach counties.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PA+cat,   yeah&#8230;as I posted above the fear in my old hometown, Lebanon, CT, is amazing.  What&#8217;s even more amazing is that it&#8217;s a farming community where the chickens and cows out number the people by a large amount.  It&#8217;s always been a bit more blue than red, but more balance than the rest of the state.  A place where there generally is some common sense. </p>
<p>I really can&#8217;t believe it&#8217;s changed so much in 4 months since I left.  Even this morning more FB posts on people upset that the town&#8217;s allotment of N95s and test kits ran out after an hour and half.  I just can&#8217;t believe the panic level. If the mass psychosis has hit a place like Lebanon, who knows where it will spread.</p>
<p>Here in the Fernandina Beach area, life seems pretty normal.  I suspect it may be different in Miami area as about 60% of all the state cases are in Broward, Dade, and Palm Beach counties.</p>
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		By: Sharon W		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/01/01/covid-tests/#comment-2598992</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2022 15:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In mid-April 2020 when my husband was fighting for his life due to cytokine storm ensuing because he was 3 times turned away from getting help (the normal protocols for assisting those in respiratory distress--in this case low oxygen saturation--not being administered) I asked one of the doctors (during a phone call), shouldn&#039;t I be tested? How can the numbers be right if I&#039;m not tested?  His response--&quot;the numbers are never right.&quot;  And there you have it. I have never been tested and never will be short of needing to do so for assistance to a person to whom I am connected (i.e. to gain admittance to a hospital to be with a family member/friend and the like.)  It&#039;s a scam.  I&#039;ve watched the testing center next to my bank for going on 2 years now.  Lines of cars when the scare meter has been set high, a desert when things have settled down.  Rufus T Firefly has the right of it, apply the same measures of wisdom regarding infection that we always have. I have the IGG antibodies (seriologically tested in May 2020) and have lived as normal a life as possible. This last 2 weeks I&#039;ve been present to assist my son&#039;s family while they have wrestled with the current flu/covid, whatever.  I&#039;m 100% fine. I&#039;ve been gargling with 10 drops of iodine in 4 oz of water since last May, when I get that first indication (sore throat/ear always on left side) and have had no flare up. Quashed. After listening to the McCoullough interview, I&#039;ve added using 1 drop of iodine on a damp Q tip and cleansing my nasal cavity after coming home from the infection scene.  So far so good. No fear, just measured response.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In mid-April 2020 when my husband was fighting for his life due to cytokine storm ensuing because he was 3 times turned away from getting help (the normal protocols for assisting those in respiratory distress&#8211;in this case low oxygen saturation&#8211;not being administered) I asked one of the doctors (during a phone call), shouldn&#8217;t I be tested? How can the numbers be right if I&#8217;m not tested?  His response&#8211;&#8220;the numbers are never right.&#8221;  And there you have it. I have never been tested and never will be short of needing to do so for assistance to a person to whom I am connected (i.e. to gain admittance to a hospital to be with a family member/friend and the like.)  It&#8217;s a scam.  I&#8217;ve watched the testing center next to my bank for going on 2 years now.  Lines of cars when the scare meter has been set high, a desert when things have settled down.  Rufus T Firefly has the right of it, apply the same measures of wisdom regarding infection that we always have. I have the IGG antibodies (seriologically tested in May 2020) and have lived as normal a life as possible. This last 2 weeks I&#8217;ve been present to assist my son&#8217;s family while they have wrestled with the current flu/covid, whatever.  I&#8217;m 100% fine. I&#8217;ve been gargling with 10 drops of iodine in 4 oz of water since last May, when I get that first indication (sore throat/ear always on left side) and have had no flare up. Quashed. After listening to the McCoullough interview, I&#8217;ve added using 1 drop of iodine on a damp Q tip and cleansing my nasal cavity after coming home from the infection scene.  So far so good. No fear, just measured response.</p>
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		By: PA+Cat		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/01/01/covid-tests/#comment-2598990</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2022 14:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[physicsguy--

You&#039;ve probably seen news items about the COVID testing panic in your former state-- but in case you missed the frenzy in Stamford, here it is: &quot;STAMFORD — For a handful of hours, Stamford was stuck in gridlock.

Long lines streamed down city streets across Shippan, Downtown and the South End as volunteers, civil servants and Stamford employees geared up to give out thousands of free antigen COVID tests amid the nation’s unprecedented groundswell of new cases. . . .  Cars jammed the streets surrounding distribution centers at Scalzi, Cummings and Kocziusko parks as residents rushed to get a hold of the 20,000 tests from California-based company ACON Labs across the city. . . . Along with the lines of cars circling all the parks, each site also distributed tests through a walk-up line, and steadily, packs of residents trudged through the cold and mist to secure their boxes. But even the pedestrian effort caused hiccups for the distributors, as residents started hopping out of their cars to join the faster push.&quot;

https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/coronavirus/article/Free-COVID-19-tests-means-gridlock-for-Stamford-16743428.php

Photo essay of the gridlock at the link.

Here&#039;s a link to the ACON Labs home test kit mentioned in the article (&quot;can be used on children as young as 2 years old!&quot;). I notice that the test has only an FDA EUA approval: 
https://www.aconlabs.com/brands/flowflex/covid-19-antigen-home-test/

In your opinion, what is likely to happen next?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>physicsguy&#8211;</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve probably seen news items about the COVID testing panic in your former state&#8211; but in case you missed the frenzy in Stamford, here it is: &#8220;STAMFORD — For a handful of hours, Stamford was stuck in gridlock.</p>
<p>Long lines streamed down city streets across Shippan, Downtown and the South End as volunteers, civil servants and Stamford employees geared up to give out thousands of free antigen COVID tests amid the nation’s unprecedented groundswell of new cases. . . .  Cars jammed the streets surrounding distribution centers at Scalzi, Cummings and Kocziusko parks as residents rushed to get a hold of the 20,000 tests from California-based company ACON Labs across the city. . . . Along with the lines of cars circling all the parks, each site also distributed tests through a walk-up line, and steadily, packs of residents trudged through the cold and mist to secure their boxes. But even the pedestrian effort caused hiccups for the distributors, as residents started hopping out of their cars to join the faster push.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/coronavirus/article/Free-COVID-19-tests-means-gridlock-for-Stamford-16743428.php" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/coronavirus/article/Free-COVID-19-tests-means-gridlock-for-Stamford-16743428.php</a></p>
<p>Photo essay of the gridlock at the link.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a link to the ACON Labs home test kit mentioned in the article (&#8220;can be used on children as young as 2 years old!&#8221;). I notice that the test has only an FDA EUA approval:<br />
<a href="https://www.aconlabs.com/brands/flowflex/covid-19-antigen-home-test/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.aconlabs.com/brands/flowflex/covid-19-antigen-home-test/</a></p>
<p>In your opinion, what is likely to happen next?</p>
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		By: david foster		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/01/01/covid-tests/#comment-2598989</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2022 14:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;died from&quot; and &quot;died with&quot;...see this description of the assessment process:

https://www.aamc.org/news-insights/how-are-covid-19-deaths-counted-it-s-complicated

As a general matter, when bad things happen they have multiple causes.  See NTSB accident reports for examples.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;died from&#8221; and &#8220;died with&#8221;&#8230;see this description of the assessment process:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.aamc.org/news-insights/how-are-covid-19-deaths-counted-it-s-complicated" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.aamc.org/news-insights/how-are-covid-19-deaths-counted-it-s-complicated</a></p>
<p>As a general matter, when bad things happen they have multiple causes.  See NTSB accident reports for examples.</p>
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