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		By: Bryan Lovely		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/23/open-thread-11-23-21/#comment-2590682</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bryan Lovely]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2021 16:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey--

&lt;i&gt;One is the glottal stop in, say, “impor ant. Previously, there was no discernible interval. It’s getting longer. Your name, sir? Mar in.&lt;/i&gt;

I first noticed that among East Coast Millennials about 15 years ago on one of those house buying shows: &quot;we have to have a big bathtub, it&#039;s really impor un&quot;. ARRGH! For some reason that tic drives me nuts. And it&#039;s spreading.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Aubrey&#8211;</p>
<p><i>One is the glottal stop in, say, “impor ant. Previously, there was no discernible interval. It’s getting longer. Your name, sir? Mar in.</i></p>
<p>I first noticed that among East Coast Millennials about 15 years ago on one of those house buying shows: &#8220;we have to have a big bathtub, it&#8217;s really impor un&#8221;. ARRGH! For some reason that tic drives me nuts. And it&#8217;s spreading.</p>
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		By: geoffb		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/23/open-thread-11-23-21/#comment-2590673</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2021 15:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Zaphod, re: Anathem

Own it, cracked it and read the &quot;Notes to a reader&quot; and decided it was not something I wanted to get into at that time. I&#039;ve been more into non-fiction for the past several years. I don&#039;t seem to be able to escape reality with books as I once did. Aging mind perhaps, or just the times.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zaphod, re: Anathem</p>
<p>Own it, cracked it and read the &#8220;Notes to a reader&#8221; and decided it was not something I wanted to get into at that time. I&#8217;ve been more into non-fiction for the past several years. I don&#8217;t seem to be able to escape reality with books as I once did. Aging mind perhaps, or just the times.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/23/open-thread-11-23-21/#comment-2590672</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2021 14:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Alas the &quot;frog-and-scorpion&quot; Democrats just can&#039;t help themselves...as they simply can&#039;t stop warring against the people they claim to represent (but in truth despise)!
&quot;NYC council to vote on bill that could allow 800,000 non-citizens to vote in city elections&quot;:
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/nyc-council-vote-bill-could-allow-800000-non-citizens-vote-city-elections


Poor Dems. One could even call them &quot;the victims of their own lies&quot;!

Victims par excellence, in fact (since they&#039;ve been lying so often and for so long that the poor psychotics just can&#039;t get their lies straight...):
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/all-things-trump/jan-6-panels-false-accusation-against-witness-hands-cudgel-gop

Whatever the excuse, we must be grateful because deep down in our hearts we know that they are lying for OUR sakes and for the sake of our communities, our cities and our country. QED.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alas the &#8220;frog-and-scorpion&#8221; Democrats just can&#8217;t help themselves&#8230;as they simply can&#8217;t stop warring against the people they claim to represent (but in truth despise)!<br />
&#8220;NYC council to vote on bill that could allow 800,000 non-citizens to vote in city elections&#8221;:<br />
<a href="https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/nyc-council-vote-bill-could-allow-800000-non-citizens-vote-city-elections" rel="nofollow ugc">https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/nyc-council-vote-bill-could-allow-800000-non-citizens-vote-city-elections</a></p>
<p>Poor Dems. One could even call them &#8220;the victims of their own lies&#8221;!</p>
<p>Victims par excellence, in fact (since they&#8217;ve been lying so often and for so long that the poor psychotics just can&#8217;t get their lies straight&#8230;):<br />
<a href="https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/all-things-trump/jan-6-panels-false-accusation-against-witness-hands-cudgel-gop" rel="nofollow ugc">https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/all-things-trump/jan-6-panels-false-accusation-against-witness-hands-cudgel-gop</a></p>
<p>Whatever the excuse, we must be grateful because deep down in our hearts we know that they are lying for OUR sakes and for the sake of our communities, our cities and our country. QED.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/23/open-thread-11-23-21/#comment-2590670</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2021 14:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;FDA wants 55 years to process FOIA request over vaccine data&quot;
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/wait-what-fda-wants-55-years-process-foia-request-over-vaccine-data-2021-11-18/

The only conclusion? That there is NO data...(or if there IS, it&#039;s not reliable, honest or true).

Other possible conclusions?
The FDA or Pfizer employees are lazy SOBs.
The FDA is so worn out by the vaccination campaign, it&#039;ll take &#039;em 55 years to recover.
The FDA/Pfizer hound dawg ate the data and ran off and they just know it&#039;ll take 55 years to find that darned dawg (not 53, not 54, but 55) and grill him about what he knows.
After 55 years, everyone will either have forgotten. Or be dead.
Everyone knows that data isn&#039;t all that important anyway.
Etc...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;FDA wants 55 years to process FOIA request over vaccine data&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/wait-what-fda-wants-55-years-process-foia-request-over-vaccine-data-2021-11-18/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/wait-what-fda-wants-55-years-process-foia-request-over-vaccine-data-2021-11-18/</a></p>
<p>The only conclusion? That there is NO data&#8230;(or if there IS, it&#8217;s not reliable, honest or true).</p>
<p>Other possible conclusions?<br />
The FDA or Pfizer employees are lazy SOBs.<br />
The FDA is so worn out by the vaccination campaign, it&#8217;ll take &#8217;em 55 years to recover.<br />
The FDA/Pfizer hound dawg ate the data and ran off and they just know it&#8217;ll take 55 years to find that darned dawg (not 53, not 54, but 55) and grill him about what he knows.<br />
After 55 years, everyone will either have forgotten. Or be dead.<br />
Everyone knows that data isn&#8217;t all that important anyway.<br />
Etc&#8230;</p>
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		By: Zaphod		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/23/open-thread-11-23-21/#comment-2590631</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zaphod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2021 08:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Still a few Australians in Australia. Here&#039;s the Chief Health Officer of the State of Victoria going out for a stroll amongst the citizenry:

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/091/343/327/original/344230ab15aac9b3.mp4

You can feel the love.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still a few Australians in Australia. Here&#8217;s the Chief Health Officer of the State of Victoria going out for a stroll amongst the citizenry:</p>
<p><a href="https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/091/343/327/original/344230ab15aac9b3.mp4" rel="nofollow ugc">https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/091/343/327/original/344230ab15aac9b3.mp4</a></p>
<p>You can feel the love.</p>
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		By: Zaphod		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/23/open-thread-11-23-21/#comment-2590629</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zaphod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2021 07:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Geoffb:

Both answers are good!

Have you read Stephenson’s Anathem?

I liked The Diamond Age. Tribes / Phyles FTW.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Geoffb:</p>
<p>Both answers are good!</p>
<p>Have you read Stephenson’s Anathem?</p>
<p>I liked The Diamond Age. Tribes / Phyles FTW.</p>
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		By: geoffb		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/23/open-thread-11-23-21/#comment-2590628</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2021 07:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Zaphod,

Correction, I&#039;m tired I guess, you said left not right. The 3 volumes on the left are The Complete Works of Raymond Chandler, a gift from my wife who knows I love those mysteries.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zaphod,</p>
<p>Correction, I&#8217;m tired I guess, you said left not right. The 3 volumes on the left are The Complete Works of Raymond Chandler, a gift from my wife who knows I love those mysteries.</p>
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		By: geoffb		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/23/open-thread-11-23-21/#comment-2590627</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[geoffb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2021 07:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Zaphod,

Neal Stephenson The Baroque Cycle: 3 Volume Set. Though I prefer his earlier works &quot;Snow Crash,&quot; &quot;The Diamond Age,&quot; and &quot;Cryptonomicon.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zaphod,</p>
<p>Neal Stephenson The Baroque Cycle: 3 Volume Set. Though I prefer his earlier works &#8220;Snow Crash,&#8221; &#8220;The Diamond Age,&#8221; and &#8220;Cryptonomicon.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Zaphod		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/23/open-thread-11-23-21/#comment-2590622</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zaphod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2021 06:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Geoffb:

Wasn&#039;t me... although it would be in character!

30 years of Analog! I&#039;d take that over 30 years of National Geographics...  Took me years to stop feeling the compulsion to buy the unattainable stuff they used to advertise in front and back of NG when I was a kid.

The bigger question is what comes in three hardcover volumes in the Everyman&#039;s Library and has reddish-tan spines at a quarter of the way from the left on second shelf from the bottom?

Alexander to Actium -- A Guitarist *and* a Classicist... Jack of all trades, that Peter Green. Wonder what else he&#039;s been up to?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoffb:</p>
<p>Wasn&#8217;t me&#8230; although it would be in character!</p>
<p>30 years of Analog! I&#8217;d take that over 30 years of National Geographics&#8230;  Took me years to stop feeling the compulsion to buy the unattainable stuff they used to advertise in front and back of NG when I was a kid.</p>
<p>The bigger question is what comes in three hardcover volumes in the Everyman&#8217;s Library and has reddish-tan spines at a quarter of the way from the left on second shelf from the bottom?</p>
<p>Alexander to Actium &#8212; A Guitarist *and* a Classicist&#8230; Jack of all trades, that Peter Green. Wonder what else he&#8217;s been up to?</p>
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		By: geoffb		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/23/open-thread-11-23-21/#comment-2590620</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[geoffb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2021 06:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[R2L,

Somebody, here I believe, mentioned the book, possibly Zaphod? It looked interesting so I bought a used copy. That&#039;s one thing the internet has done, made old books findable/buyable. Spent a lot of my life hanging at libraries and used book stores. My wife&#039;s degree and career was as a librarian. Together we probably have a couple thousand hardbacks and even more paperbacks.

One of my bookshelves got posted at the Ace-of-Spades book thread one time.

 http://ace.mu.nu/archives/374041.php#374041]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R2L,</p>
<p>Somebody, here I believe, mentioned the book, possibly Zaphod? It looked interesting so I bought a used copy. That&#8217;s one thing the internet has done, made old books findable/buyable. Spent a lot of my life hanging at libraries and used book stores. My wife&#8217;s degree and career was as a librarian. Together we probably have a couple thousand hardbacks and even more paperbacks.</p>
<p>One of my bookshelves got posted at the Ace-of-Spades book thread one time.</p>
<p> <a href="http://ace.mu.nu/archives/374041.php#374041" rel="nofollow ugc">http://ace.mu.nu/archives/374041.php#374041</a></p>
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