I think just about everyone feels “differently” about Chauvin. He’s not a sympathetic personality. But I don’t feel very differently about the Chauvin case in the legal sense. It was a miscarriage of justice. And to argue that the case wasn’t a miscarriage of justice (and I don’t know whether that’s what you’re doing, actually), you have to stick to the facts. The facts are that EMTs were called fairly early on. It was done with cooperation and coordination of the team. Whether or not Chauvin made the call himself is irrelevant. He was well aware they were called, and all four officers were waiting for the EMTs and expecting them earlier than they actually arrived.

We can of course agree to disagree. Nor am I trying to convince you, especially as you are uninterested in relevant facts.

To paraphrase; “There’s no reasoning someone out of a position that they arrived at by means other than reason.”

By no means do I assume that your condemnation of Chauvin’s actions indicates support for the violence done in Floyd’s name.

Whichever of the four of them actually placed the call is irrelevant. They were working as a unit under Chauvin’s supervision.

I still feel differently about Chauvin.

Your feelz are also irrelevant in assessing someone else’s culpability.

“However, my problem with Chauvin was the three other officers present that told Chauvin he should get the prisoner up and maybe seek medical treatment. That’s the point to me that Chauvin crossed the line.”

Besides having called for medical assistance, Chauvin was exactly following established police procedure when handling an arrestee whom Chauvin, as an experienced officer, thought likely was suffering from “excited delirium”. Floyd began saying, “I can’t breathe” before he was placed on the ground. In exactly following his police department procedures and, that the medical examiner found no bruising on Floyd’s neck/shoulder region… there was no basis for Chauvin being charged at all.

Floyd died of the fatal dose of the fentanyl he taken to avoid discovery when the cops showed up.

An innocent man’s life was destroyed, a cop just doing his job and every cop in America now realizes that imprisonment awaits any cop who even appears to have harmed a black person, regardless of how appropriate their actions.

That’s a damn shame. I like my Orientals being more gnomic and inscrutable!

Being the contrarian that I am, I enjoy pointing out to Chinese who revere Zhou as a kind of secular saint that he only looks that good next to blood-soaked Mao. Taken in isolation, he’d have had a more than respectable body count to his name.

To his credit, Zhou did manage to protect some intellectuals during the Cultural Revolution. Not many, but some. Interestingly the safest people during CR were the PLA and their families living on bases. Sat out most of it. Not inconceivable big chunks of USMil might do same when SHTF.

Mao never killed him outright the way Stalin got rid of Kirov, but he made sure he didn’t get cancer treatment early enough to make a difference.

Zaphod:

Turns out to be another too-good-to-be-true quote. Let ProfessorBuzzKill explain:
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…it seems as if this was a case of mistranslation or misunderstanding the question. Prominent American diplomat Chas Freeman was a translator during that trip, and he was there when Zhou Enlai made this statement. Along with Chinese records of the exchange seen by historians, Freeman has confirmed for us that Zhou Enlai did reply to a question about the French Revolution — the 1968 student uprising in Paris, that is, not the 1789 French Revolution. The civil unrest in France in 1968 started as a student protest, but quickly included industrial workers and more or less shut the country down for a few weeks in the summer. Calls for reforms in government and society continued, and for many years, the “which side you were on in ’68” mattered in French politics.

https://www.professorbuzzkill.com/qnq-26-zhou-enlai/
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I enjoyed the misunderstanding better myself.

You’re splitting hairs.

The hot metal objects emitted at speed from Rittenhouse’s Vile Reeking Tube of Death did not transgress the boundaries of any Sacred Black Bodies and violate the holy innards thereof with their racist yawings and cavitations and fragmentations.

That is all.

Had that happened, he’d be in for Life. He got acquitted because he shot Whites in self-defence. That is still (barely) permitted.

The outcome of this Trial is a great relief. It is no sign at all of a properly functioning justice system or a turning point. Not even the End of the Beginning in the Fat Fellow’s fabled words. Too Early to Say.

Follow Through, Toujours L’Follow @#$%ing through and hammer it home up the wrong way… Not something Conservatives do well.

And the Left continue with their Plans. Day and night.

They called for medical help early in the interaction. Chauvin was part of the decision. It wasn’t the other officers going rogue. They upped the call after they tried to put Floyd in the car and he was trying to harm himself and I think got a cut.

Look at the transcript.