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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/16/the-law-according-to-ada-binger/#comment-2589383</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2021 07:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Neo - thanks for adding the Frei &#038; Barnes video about Monday&#039;s proceedings. Glad to hear RB was actually happy with Richards&#039; closing statements. 
Barnes &#038; Frei agree that he played to his strengths and did a good job of it, especially in revealing the prosecutors as the &quot;mean vindictive&quot; people that they are.
&quot;There were 6 critical things we thought should be mentioned and Richards did them all.&quot;
&quot;He deeply believes Kyle is innocent and that finally came through.&quot;

Binger &#038; Krause were a disaster!
&quot;They lied from minute one and Richards called them out!&quot;

Interesting discussion about YouTube cutting the on-line commentators&#039; live-streams to drop their viewer totals - PBS was running way behind Rikieta and picked up viewers when they were suppressed. The public backlash was immediate and relentless.

I am resisting my OCD impulse to transcribe the whole thing, but it&#039;s definitely a struggle.
I&#039;m looking forward to seeing some of the memes Barnes mentioned on this week&#039;s TWIP at Powerline.
 
Just noting some of the on-screen chatting (some read aloud, and some not): 
(1) This case is a good example of a saying in Europe: &quot;If state prosecutors were really in search of the truth, defense attorneys would be unemployed.&quot;
(2) Would the jury have been justified in giving Binger a beating and would the bailiff let him take it on Kraus&#039; advice? -- well, &quot;he did provoke the jury by pointing a gun at them.&quot;
(3) If they find Kyle guilty they don&#039;t realize the hell they will unleash from ppl who take their final black pill.
(4) It&#039;s interesting how the Rittenhouse trial has done more to convince America of the corruption of the system than a year of rioting.
(we hope)
(5) Is no one going to mention the fact that Kyle was protecting the business of non-white owners? Where is the mainstream media on that fact? Barnes: They have deliberately omitted that the owners are immigrant &#038; minority.
(6) If Alec Baldwin gets tried .. how many strings will he pull to get Binger as his prosecutor? (The best of the Baldwin bunch, and there were a lot.)
(7) from &quot;Ginger Ninja&quot;: Binger - you must carry every possible weapon with you, and if someone confronts you...you must defend with whatever weapon they are using to attack you. NOW SPAR.
(8) The same people arguing that Kyle was unjustified in shooting in self-defense (the) people (who were) trying to harm him are the same ones saying Ashli Babbitt deserved it.
(Not discussed by F&#038;B, right at the end of the show, but certainly accurate.)

Both have a lot of faith in the honorable Kenoshans making the right decision.
HOWEVER - 
Barnes predicted an acquittal would happen on Tuesday - so this delay is not good.
https://www.thenewneo.com/2021/11/16/the-rittenhouse-jury-has-gone-home-for-the-evening/

Frei predicts that there will not be violence regardless of verdict - we will see.

He also said, to a question about Canada ever doing it: Broadcast trials are a good thing for justice...you get to see chicanery afoot and prosecutorial misconduct in real time.

Barnes called Schroeder a Honey Badger.

#DisbarBinger]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Neo &#8211; thanks for adding the Frei &amp; Barnes video about Monday&#8217;s proceedings. Glad to hear RB was actually happy with Richards&#8217; closing statements.<br />
Barnes &amp; Frei agree that he played to his strengths and did a good job of it, especially in revealing the prosecutors as the &#8220;mean vindictive&#8221; people that they are.<br />
&#8220;There were 6 critical things we thought should be mentioned and Richards did them all.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;He deeply believes Kyle is innocent and that finally came through.&#8221;</p>
<p>Binger &amp; Krause were a disaster!<br />
&#8220;They lied from minute one and Richards called them out!&#8221;</p>
<p>Interesting discussion about YouTube cutting the on-line commentators&#8217; live-streams to drop their viewer totals &#8211; PBS was running way behind Rikieta and picked up viewers when they were suppressed. The public backlash was immediate and relentless.</p>
<p>I am resisting my OCD impulse to transcribe the whole thing, but it&#8217;s definitely a struggle.<br />
I&#8217;m looking forward to seeing some of the memes Barnes mentioned on this week&#8217;s TWIP at Powerline.</p>
<p>Just noting some of the on-screen chatting (some read aloud, and some not):<br />
(1) This case is a good example of a saying in Europe: &#8220;If state prosecutors were really in search of the truth, defense attorneys would be unemployed.&#8221;<br />
(2) Would the jury have been justified in giving Binger a beating and would the bailiff let him take it on Kraus&#8217; advice? &#8212; well, &#8220;he did provoke the jury by pointing a gun at them.&#8221;<br />
(3) If they find Kyle guilty they don&#8217;t realize the hell they will unleash from ppl who take their final black pill.<br />
(4) It&#8217;s interesting how the Rittenhouse trial has done more to convince America of the corruption of the system than a year of rioting.<br />
(we hope)<br />
(5) Is no one going to mention the fact that Kyle was protecting the business of non-white owners? Where is the mainstream media on that fact? Barnes: They have deliberately omitted that the owners are immigrant &amp; minority.<br />
(6) If Alec Baldwin gets tried .. how many strings will he pull to get Binger as his prosecutor? (The best of the Baldwin bunch, and there were a lot.)<br />
(7) from &#8220;Ginger Ninja&#8221;: Binger &#8211; you must carry every possible weapon with you, and if someone confronts you&#8230;you must defend with whatever weapon they are using to attack you. NOW SPAR.<br />
(8) The same people arguing that Kyle was unjustified in shooting in self-defense (the) people (who were) trying to harm him are the same ones saying Ashli Babbitt deserved it.<br />
(Not discussed by F&amp;B, right at the end of the show, but certainly accurate.)</p>
<p>Both have a lot of faith in the honorable Kenoshans making the right decision.<br />
HOWEVER &#8211;<br />
Barnes predicted an acquittal would happen on Tuesday &#8211; so this delay is not good.<br />
<a href="https://www.thenewneo.com/2021/11/16/the-rittenhouse-jury-has-gone-home-for-the-evening/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.thenewneo.com/2021/11/16/the-rittenhouse-jury-has-gone-home-for-the-evening/</a></p>
<p>Frei predicts that there will not be violence regardless of verdict &#8211; we will see.</p>
<p>He also said, to a question about Canada ever doing it: Broadcast trials are a good thing for justice&#8230;you get to see chicanery afoot and prosecutorial misconduct in real time.</p>
<p>Barnes called Schroeder a Honey Badger.</p>
<p>#DisbarBinger</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2021 02:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mrs Whatsit:

Barnes said the defense didn&#039;t object, and that was a smart move because it was a trap the prosecutor set for the defense.  He said it&#039;s his opinion that Binger wanted Richards to object because then it would highlight how very dangerous it is to even point an unloaded gun at someone, and that would be to the prosecution&#039;s benefit. 

He also said the pointed gun was a reminder to the jury that they were in danger if they didn&#039;t act as Binger wanted.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs Whatsit:</p>
<p>Barnes said the defense didn&#8217;t object, and that was a smart move because it was a trap the prosecutor set for the defense.  He said it&#8217;s his opinion that Binger wanted Richards to object because then it would highlight how very dangerous it is to even point an unloaded gun at someone, and that would be to the prosecution&#8217;s benefit. </p>
<p>He also said the pointed gun was a reminder to the jury that they were in danger if they didn&#8217;t act as Binger wanted.</p>
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		By: sdferr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2021 00:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jumpkickman identified? Looks like it: https://newstalk1130.iheart.com/featured/common-sense-central/content/2021-11-16-the-disturbing-story-of-the-rittenhouse-cases-mysterious-jump-kick-man/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jumpkickman identified? Looks like it: <a href="https://newstalk1130.iheart.com/featured/common-sense-central/content/2021-11-16-the-disturbing-story-of-the-rittenhouse-cases-mysterious-jump-kick-man/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://newstalk1130.iheart.com/featured/common-sense-central/content/2021-11-16-the-disturbing-story-of-the-rittenhouse-cases-mysterious-jump-kick-man/</a></p>
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		By: sparkee		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2021 00:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What do you call one hundred lawyers at the bottom of the sea?





A good start]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you call one hundred lawyers at the bottom of the sea?</p>
<p>A good start</p>
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		By: Mrs Whatsit		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mrs Whatsit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2021 23:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I cannot understand how it is possible that Binger was allowed to point that gun at the jury. I worked in the NY court system for many years and there is no possible way this would have been allowed in any court I had anything to do with. Attorneys and witnesses need the judge&#039;s express permission before touching any weapon, let alone a gun, and it would only be granted on conditions that the gun would be pointed only at the floor and no one&#039;s finger would be anywhere near the trigger. Did Binger have the judge&#039;s permission? Did the defense object to his actions? I really can&#039;t believe it happened. I think that should have been a mistrial, then and there. 

With any luck, it was a strategically bad decision. He probably hoped to scare the jury with the realization of what it feels like to have a gun pointed at you -- an experience most of us probably haven&#039;t had. But the jury may also have paid attention to WHO was pointing that gun, and may well resent being treated that way for dramatic reasons. I hope so.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot understand how it is possible that Binger was allowed to point that gun at the jury. I worked in the NY court system for many years and there is no possible way this would have been allowed in any court I had anything to do with. Attorneys and witnesses need the judge&#8217;s express permission before touching any weapon, let alone a gun, and it would only be granted on conditions that the gun would be pointed only at the floor and no one&#8217;s finger would be anywhere near the trigger. Did Binger have the judge&#8217;s permission? Did the defense object to his actions? I really can&#8217;t believe it happened. I think that should have been a mistrial, then and there. </p>
<p>With any luck, it was a strategically bad decision. He probably hoped to scare the jury with the realization of what it feels like to have a gun pointed at you &#8212; an experience most of us probably haven&#8217;t had. But the jury may also have paid attention to WHO was pointing that gun, and may well resent being treated that way for dramatic reasons. I hope so.</p>
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		By: Wendy Laubach		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2021 21:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sure it hurts like the dickens!  But more important for Rittenhouse&#039;s purposes is that, if you&#039;re alone in a crowd of crazed violent jerks--excuse me, I mean, fiery but mostly peaceful First Amendment enthusiasts--being hit on the head is a prelude to be incapacitated, which in that context means a realistic and imminent threat of death.  If someone had gotten a lucky hit with a chunk of rock when Rittenhouse was in a group of friends, I seriously doubt he&#039;d have shot, in retaliation or otherwise.  He&#039;d have known that the injury might be unpleasant, but he wasn&#039;t at serious risk of being disarmed and then killed.  He had to be alone, cornered, and terrified before he shot anyone.  Or cornered in the first attack, and helpless on the ground being kicked and beaten, and a gun aimed at his head, in the second.

I mean, there&#039;s VIDEO.  Anyone blaming him has to be completely incapable of putting themselves honestly in his shoes.  In the Zimmerman case, at least you can imagine the jury flatly disbelieving the testimony that Martin was smashing his head and reaching for his gun.  How does the jury get past the video in this case?  As far as I can tell, only by persuading themselves that he &quot;brought it on himself&quot; by carrying a gun in the first place.  Appalling.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure it hurts like the dickens!  But more important for Rittenhouse&#8217;s purposes is that, if you&#8217;re alone in a crowd of crazed violent jerks&#8211;excuse me, I mean, fiery but mostly peaceful First Amendment enthusiasts&#8211;being hit on the head is a prelude to be incapacitated, which in that context means a realistic and imminent threat of death.  If someone had gotten a lucky hit with a chunk of rock when Rittenhouse was in a group of friends, I seriously doubt he&#8217;d have shot, in retaliation or otherwise.  He&#8217;d have known that the injury might be unpleasant, but he wasn&#8217;t at serious risk of being disarmed and then killed.  He had to be alone, cornered, and terrified before he shot anyone.  Or cornered in the first attack, and helpless on the ground being kicked and beaten, and a gun aimed at his head, in the second.</p>
<p>I mean, there&#8217;s VIDEO.  Anyone blaming him has to be completely incapable of putting themselves honestly in his shoes.  In the Zimmerman case, at least you can imagine the jury flatly disbelieving the testimony that Martin was smashing his head and reaching for his gun.  How does the jury get past the video in this case?  As far as I can tell, only by persuading themselves that he &#8220;brought it on himself&#8221; by carrying a gun in the first place.  Appalling.</p>
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		By: Chases Eagles		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2021 19:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rather astonishing that AR was not zip tied through the mag well and out the ejection port. I mean really, how stupid are these people?

I have been kicked in the back, knocked to the ground and kicked in the face. I have been hit in the back of the head with brick thrown by someone who intended to hit me in the back of the head with a brick. It hurt. A lot.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather astonishing that AR was not zip tied through the mag well and out the ejection port. I mean really, how stupid are these people?</p>
<p>I have been kicked in the back, knocked to the ground and kicked in the face. I have been hit in the back of the head with brick thrown by someone who intended to hit me in the back of the head with a brick. It hurt. A lot.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2021 19:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Biden&quot; keeps revving up the EVIL gauge....
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/jen-psaki-is-annoyed-youd-ask-about-biden-defaming-kyle-rittenhouse-as-a-white-supremacist

In fact &quot;he&quot;&#039;s redlining it.
Should be pretty obvious why....
(Hint: UNITY!)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Biden&#8221; keeps revving up the EVIL gauge&#8230;.<br />
<a href="https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/jen-psaki-is-annoyed-youd-ask-about-biden-defaming-kyle-rittenhouse-as-a-white-supremacist" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/jen-psaki-is-annoyed-youd-ask-about-biden-defaming-kyle-rittenhouse-as-a-white-supremacist</a></p>
<p>In fact &#8220;he&#8221;&#8216;s redlining it.<br />
Should be pretty obvious why&#8230;.<br />
(Hint: UNITY!)</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2021 18:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fox News reports that 45 minutes into deliberations the jury asked for copies of all the jury instructions, especially pp. 1-6 about self-defense. Sounds like they&#039;re not buying Binger&#039;s and Kraus&#039;s garbage law. Or so I hope.

Jonathan Turley, on his twitter feed, says he can&#039;t see how the jury could possibly convict on any of the remaining charges. 

Protesters are already shouting at each other outside the courthouse.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fox News reports that 45 minutes into deliberations the jury asked for copies of all the jury instructions, especially pp. 1-6 about self-defense. Sounds like they&#8217;re not buying Binger&#8217;s and Kraus&#8217;s garbage law. Or so I hope.</p>
<p>Jonathan Turley, on his twitter feed, says he can&#8217;t see how the jury could possibly convict on any of the remaining charges. </p>
<p>Protesters are already shouting at each other outside the courthouse.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2021 18:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, those Badgers...
&quot;The Wisconsin Election Commission admitted it told election officials to break the law before and after the 2020 election...&quot;
https://twitter.com/realLizUSA/status/1460655824964136982

Not to worry, though. They did it for the bestest of reasons!! (Along with all the rest of &#039;em in PA, in MI, in GA, in NV, in AZ, etc....)
H/T Ron Coleman twitter feed.

And some good news from AZ:
https://twitter.com/realchrisrufo/status/1460423066157154307
Scottsdale Unified School Board has voted 4-1 to remove Jann-Michael Greenburg as president. Greenburg,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, those Badgers&#8230;<br />
&#8220;The Wisconsin Election Commission admitted it told election officials to break the law before and after the 2020 election&#8230;&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://twitter.com/realLizUSA/status/1460655824964136982" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/realLizUSA/status/1460655824964136982</a></p>
<p>Not to worry, though. They did it for the bestest of reasons!! (Along with all the rest of &#8217;em in PA, in MI, in GA, in NV, in AZ, etc&#8230;.)<br />
H/T Ron Coleman twitter feed.</p>
<p>And some good news from AZ:<br />
<a href="https://twitter.com/realchrisrufo/status/1460423066157154307" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/realchrisrufo/status/1460423066157154307</a><br />
Scottsdale Unified School Board has voted 4-1 to remove Jann-Michael Greenburg as president. Greenburg,</p>
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