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		By: Wesson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2021 04:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I read that Merriam-Webster sent out a Tweet mocking Kyle Rittenhouse. I can&#039;t see it, since I don&#039;t have a Twitter account, but I sent them the following email:

&quot;I read that your company sent out a Tweet disrespecting Kyle Rittenhouse, the young man who shot three rioters in self defense in Kenosha, WI. 

&quot;Due to your company&#039;s hateful and arrogant stupidity, I will no longer be visiting your websites, or buying any of your products.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read that Merriam-Webster sent out a Tweet mocking Kyle Rittenhouse. I can&#8217;t see it, since I don&#8217;t have a Twitter account, but I sent them the following email:</p>
<p>&#8220;I read that your company sent out a Tweet disrespecting Kyle Rittenhouse, the young man who shot three rioters in self defense in Kenosha, WI. </p>
<p>&#8220;Due to your company&#8217;s hateful and arrogant stupidity, I will no longer be visiting your websites, or buying any of your products.&#8221;</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/13/open-thread-11-13-21/#comment-2588889</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2021 22:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Even more impressed by your recitation  of their talents, Neo.   My two  brothers and I did not inherit  the same talents. Both of  them  could  sing and dance passably  well. One of  them was a genius with  electronics.  The other with wood working. I am a complete  klutz at those  things.  Strange how genes work. 
 
Physicsguy, I know  the reps will not see my   e-mail. They have staff  who tabulate  the opinions as pro and con an issue.  Telephone calls  are  the same. Call and say you  are opposed to the reconciliation bill because of  whatever  points you  want  to make.  They tabulate  the opinions. When a  lot of voters are  registering  opinions, they begin to take notice.  Just as they took notice of the recent  election outcomes.  Yes, they may not believe in your  point of view, but if they want  to be  re-elected they have  to watch public opinion.   

All Congress members ask if you  want a reply to your  e-mail.  I sometimes ask for a reply. I know it&#039;s probably written by a staffer, but at least it requires  someone  to respond to what I  have  proffered - their  arguments against mine. My Congresswoman, Susan Del Bene (or a staffer), blasted me for wanting a secure southern border. She accused me of having no  compassion  for &quot;refugees.&quot;  :-(  It became an argument with no  winner. But  at least  she knows there  is a citizen out there who doesn&#039;t agree with her policies.

It  appears  that our reps are getting  some strong dissenting opinions because it is now standard  for them  to have a boiler plate warning that it&#039;s against the law to threaten a member  of Congress.  :-)

I  agree that town halls are  good places to  confront   them, if you can. And I  did that one time years  ago. It  didn&#039;t go well.  The crowd was pro Rick Larsen. I got booed and talked over. He  was not made  uncomfortable. 

Too many people are  cynical, IMO. If  the  e-mails and calls are  running high against certain policies,  they will  take notice.  In  the case of Manchin  and Sinema, when an out of state voter takes the  time to contact them, it should make  an impression. If   thousands or hundreds of thousands do, it really shows where public opinion is .  At least  that&#039;s how democracy  is supposed to  work.   I&#039;m  still trying  to do my part.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even more impressed by your recitation  of their talents, Neo.   My two  brothers and I did not inherit  the same talents. Both of  them  could  sing and dance passably  well. One of  them was a genius with  electronics.  The other with wood working. I am a complete  klutz at those  things.  Strange how genes work. </p>
<p>Physicsguy, I know  the reps will not see my   e-mail. They have staff  who tabulate  the opinions as pro and con an issue.  Telephone calls  are  the same. Call and say you  are opposed to the reconciliation bill because of  whatever  points you  want  to make.  They tabulate  the opinions. When a  lot of voters are  registering  opinions, they begin to take notice.  Just as they took notice of the recent  election outcomes.  Yes, they may not believe in your  point of view, but if they want  to be  re-elected they have  to watch public opinion.   </p>
<p>All Congress members ask if you  want a reply to your  e-mail.  I sometimes ask for a reply. I know it&#8217;s probably written by a staffer, but at least it requires  someone  to respond to what I  have  proffered &#8211; their  arguments against mine. My Congresswoman, Susan Del Bene (or a staffer), blasted me for wanting a secure southern border. She accused me of having no  compassion  for &#8220;refugees.&#8221;  🙁  It became an argument with no  winner. But  at least  she knows there  is a citizen out there who doesn&#8217;t agree with her policies.</p>
<p>It  appears  that our reps are getting  some strong dissenting opinions because it is now standard  for them  to have a boiler plate warning that it&#8217;s against the law to threaten a member  of Congress.  🙂</p>
<p>I  agree that town halls are  good places to  confront   them, if you can. And I  did that one time years  ago. It  didn&#8217;t go well.  The crowd was pro Rick Larsen. I got booed and talked over. He  was not made  uncomfortable. </p>
<p>Too many people are  cynical, IMO. If  the  e-mails and calls are  running high against certain policies,  they will  take notice.  In  the case of Manchin  and Sinema, when an out of state voter takes the  time to contact them, it should make  an impression. If   thousands or hundreds of thousands do, it really shows where public opinion is .  At least  that&#8217;s how democracy  is supposed to  work.   I&#8217;m  still trying  to do my part.</p>
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		By: Zara A		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/13/open-thread-11-13-21/#comment-2588880</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2021 21:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Incredibly talented brothers &#060;3]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incredibly talented brothers &lt;3</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/13/open-thread-11-13-21/#comment-2588848</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2021 19:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[J.J.:

Another wonderful thing about the Gibbs (in addition to their charm and humor and attractiveness) is that their enormous musical gifts were complementary. Their voices blended perfectly, but that was just the beginning.  They also had different musical strengths, and for example Maurice (who had a great voice but not as distinctive a voice for lead singing as &lt;i&gt;both&lt;/i&gt; of his brothers) was a tremendous instrumentalist at bass and keyboards and contributed a lot on then end of it.  They also were synergistic in their songwriting abilities.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J.J.:</p>
<p>Another wonderful thing about the Gibbs (in addition to their charm and humor and attractiveness) is that their enormous musical gifts were complementary. Their voices blended perfectly, but that was just the beginning.  They also had different musical strengths, and for example Maurice (who had a great voice but not as distinctive a voice for lead singing as <i>both</i> of his brothers) was a tremendous instrumentalist at bass and keyboards and contributed a lot on then end of it.  They also were synergistic in their songwriting abilities.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/13/open-thread-11-13-21/#comment-2588847</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2021 19:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo does not appreciate Peppermint Rainbow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNg7arOQoVA]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo does not appreciate Peppermint Rainbow.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNg7arOQoVA" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNg7arOQoVA</a></p>
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		By: physicsguy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/13/open-thread-11-13-21/#comment-2588844</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[physicsguy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2021 19:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;D.C needs to hear from citizens. Nothing will be done if we remain silent.&quot;

In a way I agree, but I think any letter writing to any congress critter is a complete waste of time.  If anything, an aide MIGHT quickly look over the letter, input your address into a program that generates a generic response, and that&#039;s the end of it.

A better, and more direct way, is to attend any townhall meeting the critter may have.  At least there&#039;s an opportunity to confront the critter face to face and maybe make them a bit uncomfortable.  I think we are long past the point where any of them pay any attention to any correspondence.   Just being my cynical self.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;D.C needs to hear from citizens. Nothing will be done if we remain silent.&#8221;</p>
<p>In a way I agree, but I think any letter writing to any congress critter is a complete waste of time.  If anything, an aide MIGHT quickly look over the letter, input your address into a program that generates a generic response, and that&#8217;s the end of it.</p>
<p>A better, and more direct way, is to attend any townhall meeting the critter may have.  At least there&#8217;s an opportunity to confront the critter face to face and maybe make them a bit uncomfortable.  I think we are long past the point where any of them pay any attention to any correspondence.   Just being my cynical self.</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/13/open-thread-11-13-21/#comment-2588842</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2021 19:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The brothers Gibb are  amazing. To have all that musical talent shared among brothers  is highly unusual.  I&#039;ve never been a particular fan - my musical tastes go back  to earlier singers, but all  these posts about  the Bee Gees have certainly opened my mind to their talents.  

Life isn&#039;t fair.  When  the musical genes were passed out, I didn&#039;t get any.    Can&#039;t carry a tune, don&#039;t have much  rhythm, can&#039;t dance. Just  not fair.  :-)

Inflation:  I sent  this to all my l Congressional representatives an Senators Sinema and Manchin.

&quot;Dear Senator Cantwell,
Energy prices ae rising because the administration is purposely keeping the industry from drilling, producing, and moving products over pipelines.  Modern society floats on a sea of energy. . When the supplies go down, the prices of most everything rise. 

I live on a fixed income. The prices of all my essentials are increasing - food, heat, electricity, fuel for my car, groceries, clothing, anything transported into the stores, and even medical costs. Throw in the supply chain problems and we have a deeply embedded inflation problem.  

This is a bread and butter issue that I urge you to address immediately.

First, do not pass the reconciliation bill, which, with its massive spending, will be like throwing gasoline on the fires of inflation.  
Second, work to get our U.S. and Canadian oil and gas fields back to producing enough to make us energy independent once again.  It can be done, but will require the legislature to pass energy friendly laws. 

Our  nation&#039;s fiscal  and energy  security  are depending on you to act. The Biden administration is failing us.&quot;

D.C needs to hear  from  citizens. Nothing  will be done if we remain silent.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The brothers Gibb are  amazing. To have all that musical talent shared among brothers  is highly unusual.  I&#8217;ve never been a particular fan &#8211; my musical tastes go back  to earlier singers, but all  these posts about  the Bee Gees have certainly opened my mind to their talents.  </p>
<p>Life isn&#8217;t fair.  When  the musical genes were passed out, I didn&#8217;t get any.    Can&#8217;t carry a tune, don&#8217;t have much  rhythm, can&#8217;t dance. Just  not fair.  🙂</p>
<p>Inflation:  I sent  this to all my l Congressional representatives an Senators Sinema and Manchin.</p>
<p>&#8220;Dear Senator Cantwell,<br />
Energy prices ae rising because the administration is purposely keeping the industry from drilling, producing, and moving products over pipelines.  Modern society floats on a sea of energy. . When the supplies go down, the prices of most everything rise. </p>
<p>I live on a fixed income. The prices of all my essentials are increasing &#8211; food, heat, electricity, fuel for my car, groceries, clothing, anything transported into the stores, and even medical costs. Throw in the supply chain problems and we have a deeply embedded inflation problem.  </p>
<p>This is a bread and butter issue that I urge you to address immediately.</p>
<p>First, do not pass the reconciliation bill, which, with its massive spending, will be like throwing gasoline on the fires of inflation.<br />
Second, work to get our U.S. and Canadian oil and gas fields back to producing enough to make us energy independent once again.  It can be done, but will require the legislature to pass energy friendly laws. </p>
<p>Our  nation&#8217;s fiscal  and energy  security  are depending on you to act. The Biden administration is failing us.&#8221;</p>
<p>D.C needs to hear  from  citizens. Nothing  will be done if we remain silent.</p>
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		By: Cornhead		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cornhead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2021 18:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[5th Circuit killed the OSHA vax mandate. Great opinion. 8th Circuit will agree next week.

Vax mandate is DEAD.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>5th Circuit killed the OSHA vax mandate. Great opinion. 8th Circuit will agree next week.</p>
<p>Vax mandate is DEAD.</p>
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		By: MBunge		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MBunge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2021 18:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Where are we going from here?  Inflation is back after being mostly dormant for two generations but inflation is tolerable when paired with real economic growth.  In the same way, low inflation made slow wage increases tolerable.  But our political elites, both liberal and conservative, are enthralled to ideologies and delusions that are not just indifferent but actively hostile to real economic growth.  For pity’s sake, I just read some fool online still singing the praises of “free trade” in the midst of a global supply chain crisis and just after we learned we could no longer produce ourselves some of the things needed to deal with the pandemic.

Yet as bad as inflation can be, any significant and sustained rise in interest rates to combat it might cause the global financial system to implode.  When will higher interest rates lead to America’s debt obligations increasing to the point where devaluing the dollar is the only way out?

About the only silver lining is the amusement from watching people who make six and even seven figure salaries learning they’re not nearly as rich as they think they are.

Mike]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where are we going from here?  Inflation is back after being mostly dormant for two generations but inflation is tolerable when paired with real economic growth.  In the same way, low inflation made slow wage increases tolerable.  But our political elites, both liberal and conservative, are enthralled to ideologies and delusions that are not just indifferent but actively hostile to real economic growth.  For pity’s sake, I just read some fool online still singing the praises of “free trade” in the midst of a global supply chain crisis and just after we learned we could no longer produce ourselves some of the things needed to deal with the pandemic.</p>
<p>Yet as bad as inflation can be, any significant and sustained rise in interest rates to combat it might cause the global financial system to implode.  When will higher interest rates lead to America’s debt obligations increasing to the point where devaluing the dollar is the only way out?</p>
<p>About the only silver lining is the amusement from watching people who make six and even seven figure salaries learning they’re not nearly as rich as they think they are.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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