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		By: Fractal Rabbit		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fractal Rabbit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2021 18:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[junior said,

&quot;The thinking from some of the people in the Ace of Spades HQ comments who are familiar with trials is that the judge is doing everything he can to avoid giving the prosecution grounds for an appeal.&quot;

What?! I was unaware the prosecution could appeal a case that went against them (acquittal). Is there a case where this can happen? IANAL (though I work in the court system) but I&#039;ve never heard of such a thing happening, because of protection against Double Jeopardy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>junior said,</p>
<p>&#8220;The thinking from some of the people in the Ace of Spades HQ comments who are familiar with trials is that the judge is doing everything he can to avoid giving the prosecution grounds for an appeal.&#8221;</p>
<p>What?! I was unaware the prosecution could appeal a case that went against them (acquittal). Is there a case where this can happen? IANAL (though I work in the court system) but I&#8217;ve never heard of such a thing happening, because of protection against Double Jeopardy.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2021 16:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Related to my post of 10:29 am:
A leopard cannot change its spots---
Facebook (or its current incarnation) continues its corrosive censorship policy---
&quot;Facebook Users Unable To Find Results When Searching For &quot;Kyle Rittenhouse&quot; Amid Teen&#039;s Homicide Trial&quot;
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/facebook-users-unable-find-results-when-searching-kyle-rittenhouse-amid-teens-homicide]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Related to my post of 10:29 am:<br />
A leopard cannot change its spots&#8212;<br />
Facebook (or its current incarnation) continues its corrosive censorship policy&#8212;<br />
&#8220;Facebook Users Unable To Find Results When Searching For &#8220;Kyle Rittenhouse&#8221; Amid Teen&#8217;s Homicide Trial&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/facebook-users-unable-find-results-when-searching-kyle-rittenhouse-amid-teens-homicide" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/facebook-users-unable-find-results-when-searching-kyle-rittenhouse-amid-teens-homicide</a></p>
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		By: LeClerc		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LeClerc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2021 15:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Remedial reading student LeBron James has weighed in on Rittenhouse&#039;s tearfulness.

James is the exemplar par excellence of Black America. When LeBron was playing for the Cleveland Cavaliers, his mother was &quot;dating&quot; one of his team mates ( a &quot;brother&quot; of equivalent age to James). During the past year James was photographed &quot;reading&quot; (actually looking at) the pages of Alex Haley&#039;s &quot;Roots&quot;.  James noted with astonishment that the word &quot;negro&quot; was used repeatedly in the book. Lest anyone thinks that the black population respects Frederick Douglass or, say, Glenn Loury more than LeBron or Snoop Dog - well, think again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remedial reading student LeBron James has weighed in on Rittenhouse&#8217;s tearfulness.</p>
<p>James is the exemplar par excellence of Black America. When LeBron was playing for the Cleveland Cavaliers, his mother was &#8220;dating&#8221; one of his team mates ( a &#8220;brother&#8221; of equivalent age to James). During the past year James was photographed &#8220;reading&#8221; (actually looking at) the pages of Alex Haley&#8217;s &#8220;Roots&#8221;.  James noted with astonishment that the word &#8220;negro&#8221; was used repeatedly in the book. Lest anyone thinks that the black population respects Frederick Douglass or, say, Glenn Loury more than LeBron or Snoop Dog &#8211; well, think again.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2021 15:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;The progressive bubble&quot;...burst (at least in some cases)....

Greenwald---on how SOME of the beautiful people had their eyes opened by the Rittenhouse trial:
&quot;This is such an important thread -- not just the original tweet but so many that follow in replies -- of liberals, genuine liberals, expressing shock and horror upon realizing, after watching the trial, that so much of what the media told them about the Rittenhouse case is false:&quot;
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1458790332636749824

For example, one, Sarah Beth Burwick (who describes herself as &quot;highly educated and reasonably perceptive&quot;), tweets that until the trial she thought that the three guys who were shot were NOT white:
&quot;I am highly educated and reasonably perceptive, and it was only today that I learned the Kyle Rittenhouse victims were white.
&quot;My progressive bubble made this seem like a very different case than it is.&quot;
https://twitter.com/sarahbeth345/status/1458593872557133825

Indeed, &quot;highly educated and reasonably perceptive&quot;....

So how many more like her are out there...?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The progressive bubble&#8221;&#8230;burst (at least in some cases)&#8230;.</p>
<p>Greenwald&#8212;on how SOME of the beautiful people had their eyes opened by the Rittenhouse trial:<br />
&#8220;This is such an important thread &#8212; not just the original tweet but so many that follow in replies &#8212; of liberals, genuine liberals, expressing shock and horror upon realizing, after watching the trial, that so much of what the media told them about the Rittenhouse case is false:&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1458790332636749824" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1458790332636749824</a></p>
<p>For example, one, Sarah Beth Burwick (who describes herself as &#8220;highly educated and reasonably perceptive&#8221;), tweets that until the trial she thought that the three guys who were shot were NOT white:<br />
&#8220;I am highly educated and reasonably perceptive, and it was only today that I learned the Kyle Rittenhouse victims were white.<br />
&#8220;My progressive bubble made this seem like a very different case than it is.&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://twitter.com/sarahbeth345/status/1458593872557133825" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/sarahbeth345/status/1458593872557133825</a></p>
<p>Indeed, &#8220;highly educated and reasonably perceptive&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
<p>So how many more like her are out there&#8230;?</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2021 04:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Several jurors have, if I understand correctly, stated during voir dire, that they believed Rittenhouse was guilty, but this did not cause them to be rejected.

I’m sure that your wildly racist desire to be able to defend yourself would get you rejected out of hand. Probably with a scolding.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

All the women in my family have been called to be jurors. Some more than once. My mother, served three times.

None of the males in my extended family have ever been called, apart from me.

I was in the jury pool, but never even made it to an interview.

We were gathered in a large room late morning, roll was called, and then told that it would be a couple of hours before any further proceedings took place sometime after lunch; and, that we could even leave the court house if we got back on time.

I went to the administration desk and inquired regarding the exact time for reconvening, as I had a proposal package I wanted to drop off at a Ford engineering building; but saying I was sure I could be back in time. But also that I could wait if desired; I owned the business and was in control of my own time and schedule.

The ladies smiled nicely at me, and one said that they would take care of it. She left, and then a moment later she came back with a slip of paper and said I was dismissed. No need to return ... at all.

I was waiting to serve, wanting to serve, and more than willing to convict any son of a bitch who crossed my path. I was looking forward to it.

But I never got the chance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Several jurors have, if I understand correctly, stated during voir dire, that they believed Rittenhouse was guilty, but this did not cause them to be rejected.</p>
<p>I’m sure that your wildly racist desire to be able to defend yourself would get you rejected out of hand. Probably with a scolding.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>All the women in my family have been called to be jurors. Some more than once. My mother, served three times.</p>
<p>None of the males in my extended family have ever been called, apart from me.</p>
<p>I was in the jury pool, but never even made it to an interview.</p>
<p>We were gathered in a large room late morning, roll was called, and then told that it would be a couple of hours before any further proceedings took place sometime after lunch; and, that we could even leave the court house if we got back on time.</p>
<p>I went to the administration desk and inquired regarding the exact time for reconvening, as I had a proposal package I wanted to drop off at a Ford engineering building; but saying I was sure I could be back in time. But also that I could wait if desired; I owned the business and was in control of my own time and schedule.</p>
<p>The ladies smiled nicely at me, and one said that they would take care of it. She left, and then a moment later she came back with a slip of paper and said I was dismissed. No need to return &#8230; at all.</p>
<p>I was waiting to serve, wanting to serve, and more than willing to convict any son of a bitch who crossed my path. I was looking forward to it.</p>
<p>But I never got the chance.</p>
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		By: rcat		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rcat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2021 04:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;And so we heard from Comrade Krylenko that a tribunal was not that kind of court! [i.e. one concerned with the guilt or innocence of a particular defendant] On another occasion we would hear from him that a tribunal was not a court at all: “A tribunal is an organ of the class struggle of the workers directed against their enemies” and must act “from the point of view of the interests of the revolution ... having in mind the most desirable results for the masses of workers and peasants. “&lt;b&gt;No matter what the individual qualities [of the defendant], only one method of evaluating him is to be applied: evaluation from the point of view of class expediency&lt;/b&gt;“
-- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, &lt;i&gt;The Gulag Archipelago&lt;/i&gt; [emphasis mine]

Clearly from the view of class expediency, Rittenhouse is guilty. Antifa and BLM are oppressed people. Therefore, they have virtue. Rittenhouse, by opposing them, is an oppressor. I doubt that the judge will grant a mistrial. I have no doubt that the jurors will be coerced into a guilty verdict: the Law and the facts don&#039;t matter. &lt;b&gt;Class expediency&lt;/b&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And so we heard from Comrade Krylenko that a tribunal was not that kind of court! [i.e. one concerned with the guilt or innocence of a particular defendant] On another occasion we would hear from him that a tribunal was not a court at all: “A tribunal is an organ of the class struggle of the workers directed against their enemies” and must act “from the point of view of the interests of the revolution &#8230; having in mind the most desirable results for the masses of workers and peasants. “<b>No matter what the individual qualities [of the defendant], only one method of evaluating him is to be applied: evaluation from the point of view of class expediency</b>“<br />
&#8212; Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, <i>The Gulag Archipelago</i> [emphasis mine]</p>
<p>Clearly from the view of class expediency, Rittenhouse is guilty. Antifa and BLM are oppressed people. Therefore, they have virtue. Rittenhouse, by opposing them, is an oppressor. I doubt that the judge will grant a mistrial. I have no doubt that the jurors will be coerced into a guilty verdict: the Law and the facts don&#8217;t matter. <b>Class expediency</b>.</p>
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		By: Dave Moore		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Moore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2021 03:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Owen said: &quot;If I were on that jury I would be spending my free time at the range. It pays to be tuned up.&quot;

Which would keep you from being on this jury. Several jurors have, if I understand correctly, stated during voir dire, that they believed Rittenhouse was guilty, but this did not cause them to be rejected.

I&#039;m sure that your wildly racist desire to be able to defend yourself would get you rejected out of hand. Probably with a scolding.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Owen said: &#8220;If I were on that jury I would be spending my free time at the range. It pays to be tuned up.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which would keep you from being on this jury. Several jurors have, if I understand correctly, stated during voir dire, that they believed Rittenhouse was guilty, but this did not cause them to be rejected.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that your wildly racist desire to be able to defend yourself would get you rejected out of hand. Probably with a scolding.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2021 01:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: Oxymoron, redundant...

Boatbuilder, Zaphod:

During the 70s Robin Williams conspicuously used those terms in his stand-up. I&#039;ve wondered if he pressed those words into more common usage.

Firesign Theatre had its wonderful &quot;Dept. of Redundancy Dept.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Oxymoron, redundant&#8230;</p>
<p>Boatbuilder, Zaphod:</p>
<p>During the 70s Robin Williams conspicuously used those terms in his stand-up. I&#8217;ve wondered if he pressed those words into more common usage.</p>
<p>Firesign Theatre had its wonderful &#8220;Dept. of Redundancy Dept.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Robert Shotzberger		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Shotzberger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2021 01:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Snitches get stitches.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snitches get stitches.</p>
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		By: Owen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Owen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2021 01:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If I were on that jury I would be spending my free time at the range.  It pays to be tuned up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I were on that jury I would be spending my free time at the range.  It pays to be tuned up.</p>
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