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		By: DNW		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/08/the-polls-for-what-theyre-worth/#comment-2588055</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2021 16:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Someone who deserves credit I unfortunately cannot give, linked to a thread containing Glenn Greenwald&#039;s disgusted tweets regarding a lying, institutionally degenerate,  deep state enabling and complicit, and now, unapologetically shameless, mainstream and legacy media. 

His conclusion was that their audience - their ideoligical constituency - doesn&#039;t really care if they lie in a partisan cause. These media and their shills are scratching a particular listener&#039;s aural itch with with the words these consumers want to hear spoken. What&#039;s &quot;truth&quot; got to do with it? 

&quot;What is &#039;truth&#039;? &quot; anyway, as someone realistically attuned to power and its uses once notably asked. If people still remembered him, he might nowadays be embraced and celebrated as the very model of todays&#039; pragmatic deep state managers, functionaries, beneficiaries, and grateful hangers-on. 

How many of your own sinecured soy-boy sons or nephews, your smug sisters-in-law, your ardently progressive nieces or daughters, would really change their vote if they found that their guys were breaking every moral law known to God and man in order to deliver them the dream they dream? 

How many would object even if maintaining and growing that that beautiful dream of lordly status and power involved breaking the very bodies of so-called innocents - recalcitrants on their view -  who refused to play the game?

After all, as a Canadian feminist who decided to eschew all euphemism proudly announced regarding abortion, &#039; Some lives &lt;b&gt;are&lt;/b&gt; worth sacrificing for the benefit other&#039;s &#039;.(paraphrase)

So, how many would &quot;repent and have a change of heart&quot;?

I&#039;ll answer for you. None. Or near as many as makes little to no difference.

And if you don&#039;t believe me, Glenn Greenwald said as much himself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone who deserves credit I unfortunately cannot give, linked to a thread containing Glenn Greenwald&#8217;s disgusted tweets regarding a lying, institutionally degenerate,  deep state enabling and complicit, and now, unapologetically shameless, mainstream and legacy media. </p>
<p>His conclusion was that their audience &#8211; their ideoligical constituency &#8211; doesn&#8217;t really care if they lie in a partisan cause. These media and their shills are scratching a particular listener&#8217;s aural itch with with the words these consumers want to hear spoken. What&#8217;s &#8220;truth&#8221; got to do with it? </p>
<p>&#8220;What is &#8216;truth&#8217;? &#8221; anyway, as someone realistically attuned to power and its uses once notably asked. If people still remembered him, he might nowadays be embraced and celebrated as the very model of todays&#8217; pragmatic deep state managers, functionaries, beneficiaries, and grateful hangers-on. </p>
<p>How many of your own sinecured soy-boy sons or nephews, your smug sisters-in-law, your ardently progressive nieces or daughters, would really change their vote if they found that their guys were breaking every moral law known to God and man in order to deliver them the dream they dream? </p>
<p>How many would object even if maintaining and growing that that beautiful dream of lordly status and power involved breaking the very bodies of so-called innocents &#8211; recalcitrants on their view &#8211;  who refused to play the game?</p>
<p>After all, as a Canadian feminist who decided to eschew all euphemism proudly announced regarding abortion, &#8216; Some lives <b>are</b> worth sacrificing for the benefit other&#8217;s &#8216;.(paraphrase)</p>
<p>So, how many would &#8220;repent and have a change of heart&#8221;?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll answer for you. None. Or near as many as makes little to no difference.</p>
<p>And if you don&#8217;t believe me, Glenn Greenwald said as much himself.</p>
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		By: Zach		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/08/the-polls-for-what-theyre-worth/#comment-2588049</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zach]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2021 16:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[1. I don’t know how I would answer. I predicted Biden would be a disaster. He had met those expectations. I guess farting loudly  in front of Parker-Bowles snd rumored pooping his pants in front of the Pope does mean he has fallen further than I thought. 
2. I think several cabinet members jumped at the chance as a stepping stone to the presidency. I have no doubt Butigieg and Granholm will run. Maybe McAuliffe if he’s a glutton for punishment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. I don’t know how I would answer. I predicted Biden would be a disaster. He had met those expectations. I guess farting loudly  in front of Parker-Bowles snd rumored pooping his pants in front of the Pope does mean he has fallen further than I thought.<br />
2. I think several cabinet members jumped at the chance as a stepping stone to the presidency. I have no doubt Butigieg and Granholm will run. Maybe McAuliffe if he’s a glutton for punishment.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/08/the-polls-for-what-theyre-worth/#comment-2588028</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2021 12:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;They have a few articulate individuals, but as a ‘party’, the Republicans are about as collected and mission-positive as a tin can full of fishing worms.&lt;/i&gt;

When your leading officials are Bitc* McConnell and Kevin McCarthy, a more descriptive name would be &quot;Donorist Fredocon Party&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>They have a few articulate individuals, but as a ‘party’, the Republicans are about as collected and mission-positive as a tin can full of fishing worms.</i></p>
<p>When your leading officials are Bitc* McConnell and Kevin McCarthy, a more descriptive name would be &#8220;Donorist Fredocon Party&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/08/the-polls-for-what-theyre-worth/#comment-2588027</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2021 12:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Why do they get so little attention?&lt;/i&gt;

Because Nate Silver finds them inconvenient.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Why do they get so little attention?</i></p>
<p>Because Nate Silver finds them inconvenient.</p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/08/the-polls-for-what-theyre-worth/#comment-2588024</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rufus T. Firefly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2021 12:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with Frederick that those of us who are awake often fail to understand what motivates many voters. Pertinent facts are some of the least important decision points among many in the electorate. (That also explains why Kamala&#039;s numbers are lower than Joe&#039;s. It&#039;s why the studio system did screen tests. People have intangible qualities that can be either appealing or unappealing to the masses.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Frederick that those of us who are awake often fail to understand what motivates many voters. Pertinent facts are some of the least important decision points among many in the electorate. (That also explains why Kamala&#8217;s numbers are lower than Joe&#8217;s. It&#8217;s why the studio system did screen tests. People have intangible qualities that can be either appealing or unappealing to the masses.)</p>
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		By: Natural Selection No Longer Does &#8211; Daily Pundit		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/08/the-polls-for-what-theyre-worth/#comment-2588015</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Natural Selection No Longer Does &#8211; Daily Pundit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2021 11:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] The polls, for what they’re worth – The New Neo [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] The polls, for what they’re worth – The New Neo [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: TJ		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/08/the-polls-for-what-theyre-worth/#comment-2588012</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2021 10:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Trafalgar Group (based in Atlanta) has had the best polling track record for some cycles.

Why do they get so little attention?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Trafalgar Group (based in Atlanta) has had the best polling track record for some cycles.</p>
<p>Why do they get so little attention?</p>
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		By: Tuvea		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/08/the-polls-for-what-theyre-worth/#comment-2587983</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tuvea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2021 03:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Does anyone else remember when some TV pundit would utter “The only poll that matters is the one on election day.”

The d’s STILL control vote ‘counting’ in altogether too many states.   

So, personally, I’m not all warm and fuzzy about 2022 or 2024.  My only hope is … I’m wrong.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone else remember when some TV pundit would utter “The only poll that matters is the one on election day.”</p>
<p>The d’s STILL control vote ‘counting’ in altogether too many states.   </p>
<p>So, personally, I’m not all warm and fuzzy about 2022 or 2024.  My only hope is … I’m wrong.</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/08/the-polls-for-what-theyre-worth/#comment-2587967</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2021 01:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been waiting for the left to switch to,. &quot;Sure, we cheated, chump.  What are you going to do about it?&quot;
But now it might be.....&quot;Somebody cheated. Nobody I know is dumb enough to vote for this clown.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been waiting for the left to switch to,. &#8220;Sure, we cheated, chump.  What are you going to do about it?&#8221;<br />
But now it might be&#8230;..&#8221;Somebody cheated. Nobody I know is dumb enough to vote for this clown.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Insufficiently Sensitive		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/08/the-polls-for-what-theyre-worth/#comment-2587930</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Insufficiently Sensitive]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2021 22:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;A year before the 2022 midterm elections, Republicans hold a clear lead on the congressional ballot as President Joe Biden’s approval rating sinks to a new low of 38%.&lt;/i&gt;

WHICH Republicans?  They have a few articulate individuals, but as a &#039;party&#039;, the Republicans are about as collected and mission-positive as a tin can full of fishing worms.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>A year before the 2022 midterm elections, Republicans hold a clear lead on the congressional ballot as President Joe Biden’s approval rating sinks to a new low of 38%.</i></p>
<p>WHICH Republicans?  They have a few articulate individuals, but as a &#8216;party&#8217;, the Republicans are about as collected and mission-positive as a tin can full of fishing worms.</p>
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