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		By: Zaphod		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2021 06:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[^^— It’s a Think Tank Interns Factory. More of the people who have been so successful at standing athwart history. Yep. Those ones.

And will invariably end up being staffed by those who like being around, well, Interns Hungry for Advancement.

I think I’ll just go appoint my horse Consul instead.

People’s Republic of Austin isn’t a strange choice when you realise that the whole thing is a giant LARP cum grift. You didn’t expect the faculty and students to go slum it in the Desert, did you? :)

For the present, the problem isn’t Woke Universities. The problem is Universities and those attracted to them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^— It’s a Think Tank Interns Factory. More of the people who have been so successful at standing athwart history. Yep. Those ones.</p>
<p>And will invariably end up being staffed by those who like being around, well, Interns Hungry for Advancement.</p>
<p>I think I’ll just go appoint my horse Consul instead.</p>
<p>People’s Republic of Austin isn’t a strange choice when you realise that the whole thing is a giant LARP cum grift. You didn’t expect the faculty and students to go slum it in the Desert, did you? 🙂</p>
<p>For the present, the problem isn’t Woke Universities. The problem is Universities and those attracted to them.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/08/open-thread-11-8-21/#comment-2588181</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2021 06:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[University of Austin founding scholar explains, and is more optimistic than I am about the chances that the school will remain non-leftist. He also talks about the education model, starting with a few programs, then a single specialize MA (can they still call it a Master&#039;s Degree?), and working up to the 4 year liberal arts model.

I wish them good luck, but the People&#039;s Republic of Austin  is a strange choice.
And don&#039;t kid yourself that they will be &quot;conservative&quot; in any political sense - just back to being pre-sixties classic liberals.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-11-08/niall-ferguson-america-s-woke-universities-need-to-be-replaced?sref=AzFl8679]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>University of Austin founding scholar explains, and is more optimistic than I am about the chances that the school will remain non-leftist. He also talks about the education model, starting with a few programs, then a single specialize MA (can they still call it a Master&#8217;s Degree?), and working up to the 4 year liberal arts model.</p>
<p>I wish them good luck, but the People&#8217;s Republic of Austin  is a strange choice.<br />
And don&#8217;t kid yourself that they will be &#8220;conservative&#8221; in any political sense &#8211; just back to being pre-sixties classic liberals.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-11-08/niall-ferguson-america-s-woke-universities-need-to-be-replaced?sref=AzFl8679" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-11-08/niall-ferguson-america-s-woke-universities-need-to-be-replaced?sref=AzFl8679</a></p>
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		By: Xylourgos		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/08/open-thread-11-8-21/#comment-2588045</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Xylourgos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2021 15:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not at all Art, the Pope had his coterie of Cardinals, Prelates and Swiss Guards to attend to such earthly details :) The Pope had much larger issues to be concerned with.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not at all Art, the Pope had his coterie of Cardinals, Prelates and Swiss Guards to attend to such earthly details 🙂 The Pope had much larger issues to be concerned with.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/08/open-thread-11-8-21/#comment-2588041</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2021 14:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;not once in 25 years ( it is said) did he address a word to his coachman.&lt;/i&gt;

You mean he kept it to grunts and hand signals?


I&#039;m remembering an old &lt;i&gt;Time&lt;/i&gt; Magazine profile I once read of one of the Presidents of Colgate University.  Included in it was the datum that on principle he never wore overcoats, as they interfered with salutary hardship.  That&#039;s  something that would generate a chuckle from someone familiar with Central New York winters.  Do an image search of the man, you turn up this:

https://library.acadiau.ca/files/sites/archives/special_projects/sporthistory/athletes/male/pics/cutten.jpg]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>not once in 25 years ( it is said) did he address a word to his coachman.</i></p>
<p>You mean he kept it to grunts and hand signals?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m remembering an old <i>Time</i> Magazine profile I once read of one of the Presidents of Colgate University.  Included in it was the datum that on principle he never wore overcoats, as they interfered with salutary hardship.  That&#8217;s  something that would generate a chuckle from someone familiar with Central New York winters.  Do an image search of the man, you turn up this:</p>
<p><a href="https://library.acadiau.ca/files/sites/archives/special_projects/sporthistory/athletes/male/pics/cutten.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">https://library.acadiau.ca/files/sites/archives/special_projects/sporthistory/athletes/male/pics/cutten.jpg</a></p>
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		By: Xylourgos		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/08/open-thread-11-8-21/#comment-2588036</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Xylourgos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2021 13:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rufus,

Regarding Napoleon I understand your position. Napoleon was certainly a complex guy. A very good podcast that attempts to make sense of the Napoleonic period is the following:

https://napoleonbonapartepodcast.com/

J David Markham and Cameron Reilly do a great job of bringing Napoleon and his age to life. There are 60 episodes and over 100 hours of enjoyable listening. When they occasionally dived into modern political themes, I would fast forward as they were both suffering from BDS - yes that&#039;s right, Bush Derangement Syndrome. Seems so long ago now. What would they have to say about Trump? Hard to understand why they considered Bush to be evil when they both adored Napoleon with all the havoc he wrought. Nonetheless, the enthusiasm they have for the period is infectious and you are in store for may hours on enjoyable listening if Napoleonic period is your thing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rufus,</p>
<p>Regarding Napoleon I understand your position. Napoleon was certainly a complex guy. A very good podcast that attempts to make sense of the Napoleonic period is the following:</p>
<p><a href="https://napoleonbonapartepodcast.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://napoleonbonapartepodcast.com/</a></p>
<p>J David Markham and Cameron Reilly do a great job of bringing Napoleon and his age to life. There are 60 episodes and over 100 hours of enjoyable listening. When they occasionally dived into modern political themes, I would fast forward as they were both suffering from BDS &#8211; yes that&#8217;s right, Bush Derangement Syndrome. Seems so long ago now. What would they have to say about Trump? Hard to understand why they considered Bush to be evil when they both adored Napoleon with all the havoc he wrought. Nonetheless, the enthusiasm they have for the period is infectious and you are in store for may hours on enjoyable listening if Napoleonic period is your thing.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2021 13:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To recap:
&quot;John Durham Is Getting Close to the Jugular&quot;
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2021/11/08/john_durham_is_getting_close_to_the_jugular_146702.html
H/T Powerline blog.

Key graf:
&quot;...[The Steele Dossier] should be called the &#039;Clinton dossier,&#039;...since Hillary commissioned it, paid for it, and had her aides feed it to the media, the State Department, and the FBI. It was a full-scale disinformation campaign — coherent, well-organized, and well-funded. It was rotten to the core....&quot;

I don&#039;t know for how much longer Garland will allow this to go on. (Unless he&#039;s using it as a hook to put Durham et al. away for good---the old boomerang trick that tyrants love to employ.... Alternatively, &quot;Biden&quot; believes it&#039;s time to hang Clinton out to dry...since a problem with this article is that it makes no mention of either Obama, Brennan or Biden, which ought to raise questions if not eyebrows...)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To recap:<br />
&#8220;John Durham Is Getting Close to the Jugular&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2021/11/08/john_durham_is_getting_close_to_the_jugular_146702.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2021/11/08/john_durham_is_getting_close_to_the_jugular_146702.html</a><br />
H/T Powerline blog.</p>
<p>Key graf:<br />
&#8220;&#8230;[The Steele Dossier] should be called the &#8216;Clinton dossier,&#8217;&#8230;since Hillary commissioned it, paid for it, and had her aides feed it to the media, the State Department, and the FBI. It was a full-scale disinformation campaign — coherent, well-organized, and well-funded. It was rotten to the core&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know for how much longer Garland will allow this to go on. (Unless he&#8217;s using it as a hook to put Durham et al. away for good&#8212;the old boomerang trick that tyrants love to employ&#8230;. Alternatively, &#8220;Biden&#8221; believes it&#8217;s time to hang Clinton out to dry&#8230;since a problem with this article is that it makes no mention of either Obama, Brennan or Biden, which ought to raise questions if not eyebrows&#8230;)</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/08/open-thread-11-8-21/#comment-2588021</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2021 12:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Indeed,
&quot;...By July 2018, the DOJ clearly knew the dossier was full of fabrications....&quot;

But the mid-term elections were four months later, so they HAD TO MAKE SURE that the &quot;investigation&quot; continued in order for those elections to bear fruit for the Democrats. Which is what happened. 

And so the impeachment circus could ramp up in earnest....

IOW, the &quot;investigation&quot; could not be stopped even though they knew they had NOTHING.

It&#039;s &quot;Get Trump&quot; from the get-go and all the way down the line.

Now, under &quot;Biden&quot;, it&#039;s &quot;Get Trump and his supporters&quot;.

I do]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed,<br />
&#8220;&#8230;By July 2018, the DOJ clearly knew the dossier was full of fabrications&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>But the mid-term elections were four months later, so they HAD TO MAKE SURE that the &#8220;investigation&#8221; continued in order for those elections to bear fruit for the Democrats. Which is what happened. </p>
<p>And so the impeachment circus could ramp up in earnest&#8230;.</p>
<p>IOW, the &#8220;investigation&#8221; could not be stopped even though they knew they had NOTHING.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s &#8220;Get Trump&#8221; from the get-go and all the way down the line.</p>
<p>Now, under &#8220;Biden&#8221;, it&#8217;s &#8220;Get Trump and his supporters&#8221;.</p>
<p>I do</p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rufus T. Firefly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2021 12:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Xylourgos,

I love that quote from Cardinal Consalvi. I first heard it about a decade ago. There is a lot there. Very clever! Also, I&#039;ve always loved that painting. I read a biography of Napoleon in an attempt to figure out how it all happened, and what the point was. After reading all the details it still didn&#039;t make any sense to me. Quite an incredible thing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xylourgos,</p>
<p>I love that quote from Cardinal Consalvi. I first heard it about a decade ago. There is a lot there. Very clever! Also, I&#8217;ve always loved that painting. I read a biography of Napoleon in an attempt to figure out how it all happened, and what the point was. After reading all the details it still didn&#8217;t make any sense to me. Quite an incredible thing.</p>
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		By: TJ		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/08/open-thread-11-8-21/#comment-2588014</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2021 10:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Forget about Steele and Igor Danchenko. Go for Andrew Weissman, Mueller, et al!

That&#039;s the message from Sundance at Conservative Treehouse, drawing out implications from the lawyer TechnoFog who concludes with this question: why was the DOJ/FBI covering up for Danchanko?


&quot;Why would the same DOJ/FBI officials who knew the [Steele] dossier was junk in early 2017 lie to the FISA court in 2018?

&quot;ANSWER: Because they were not protecting Danchenko, they were protecting Robert Mueller [or more precisely, his Special Counsel  investigative team that was practically running the top level of DOJ through DAG Rod Rosenstein&#039;s rubber stamp]....

&quot;By July 2018, the DOJ clearly knew the dossier was full of fabrications, yet they withheld that information from the [FISA] court and said the predicate was still valid. Why?

&quot;It doesn’t take a deep-weeds-walker to identify the DOJ motive.  In July 2018 Robert Mueller’s investigation was at its apex.

&quot;This [July 2018] letter justifying the application and claiming that current information would still be a valid predicate therein, speaks to the 2018 DOJ needing to retain the validity of the FISA warrant.  The the DOJ needed to protect evidence Mueller/Weissmann had already extracted from the fraudulently obtained FISA authority.  Protect the ‘fruit of the poisoned tree’, that’s the motive....

&quot;If the DOJ had been honest with the court, there’s a strong possibility some, perhaps much, of Mueller evidence gathering would have been invalidated… and cases were pending. The solution: mislead the court, ie. lie, and claim the predication was still valid.&quot;

Some corrupt Deep State harlotry is coming into clearer focus, now 

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/stop-looking-danchenko-start-looking-andrew-weissmann-robert-mueller]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget about Steele and Igor Danchenko. Go for Andrew Weissman, Mueller, et al!</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the message from Sundance at Conservative Treehouse, drawing out implications from the lawyer TechnoFog who concludes with this question: why was the DOJ/FBI covering up for Danchanko?</p>
<p>&#8220;Why would the same DOJ/FBI officials who knew the [Steele] dossier was junk in early 2017 lie to the FISA court in 2018?</p>
<p>&#8220;ANSWER: Because they were not protecting Danchenko, they were protecting Robert Mueller [or more precisely, his Special Counsel  investigative team that was practically running the top level of DOJ through DAG Rod Rosenstein&#8217;s rubber stamp]&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;By July 2018, the DOJ clearly knew the dossier was full of fabrications, yet they withheld that information from the [FISA] court and said the predicate was still valid. Why?</p>
<p>&#8220;It doesn’t take a deep-weeds-walker to identify the DOJ motive.  In July 2018 Robert Mueller’s investigation was at its apex.</p>
<p>&#8220;This [July 2018] letter justifying the application and claiming that current information would still be a valid predicate therein, speaks to the 2018 DOJ needing to retain the validity of the FISA warrant.  The the DOJ needed to protect evidence Mueller/Weissmann had already extracted from the fraudulently obtained FISA authority.  Protect the ‘fruit of the poisoned tree’, that’s the motive&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;If the DOJ had been honest with the court, there’s a strong possibility some, perhaps much, of Mueller evidence gathering would have been invalidated… and cases were pending. The solution: mislead the court, ie. lie, and claim the predication was still valid.&#8221;</p>
<p>Some corrupt Deep State harlotry is coming into clearer focus, now </p>
<p><a href="https://www.zerohedge.com/political/stop-looking-danchenko-start-looking-andrew-weissmann-robert-mueller" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.zerohedge.com/political/stop-looking-danchenko-start-looking-andrew-weissmann-robert-mueller</a></p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/08/open-thread-11-8-21/#comment-2588009</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2021 08:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;...Can a society survive when the people in charge of it are no longer responsible for it?...&quot;

Not entirely convinced that that&#039;s the question at hand, so I&#039;ll rephrase it, um, ever so slightly:
&quot;...Can a society survive when the people in charge of it are actively trying to subvert it?...&quot; 

Exhibit A: &quot;Biden&quot;-land.
Exhibit B: Little &quot;Biden&quot;-land (to &quot;Biden&quot;-land&#039;s north).

- - - - - - 
Aiii, that poor almanac...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;Can a society survive when the people in charge of it are no longer responsible for it?&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Not entirely convinced that that&#8217;s the question at hand, so I&#8217;ll rephrase it, um, ever so slightly:<br />
&#8220;&#8230;Can a society survive when the people in charge of it are actively trying to subvert it?&#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p>Exhibit A: &#8220;Biden&#8221;-land.<br />
Exhibit B: Little &#8220;Biden&#8221;-land (to &#8220;Biden&#8221;-land&#8217;s north).</p>
<p>&#8211; &#8211; &#8211; &#8211; &#8211; &#8211;<br />
Aiii, that poor almanac&#8230;</p>
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