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		By: Election irregularities, election fraud, past and present – The New Neo &#8211; Wince and Nod		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Election irregularities, election fraud, past and present – The New Neo &#8211; Wince and Nod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2021 06:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/04/election-irregularities-election-fraud-past-and-present/#comment-2587249</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2021 16:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Dale &#062; &quot;A statute sanctioning allowance of illegal votes is also needed.&quot;

I understand what you propose (and agree), but it has bothered me for years that the word &quot;sanction&quot; has two diametrically opposed definitions and usages, and if a sentence is not phrased correctly, it can be ambiguous about which one is intended.

The Democrats, for instance, would have opted for the &quot;permitted&quot; use rather than the &quot;proscribed&quot; one had they written that sentence.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sanction
1: to make valid or binding usually by a formal procedure (such as ratification)
2: to give effective or authoritative approval or consent to
3a: to attach a sanction or penalty to the violation of (a right, obligation, or command)
b: to impose a sanction or penalty upon]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Dale &gt; &#8220;A statute sanctioning allowance of illegal votes is also needed.&#8221;</p>
<p>I understand what you propose (and agree), but it has bothered me for years that the word &#8220;sanction&#8221; has two diametrically opposed definitions and usages, and if a sentence is not phrased correctly, it can be ambiguous about which one is intended.</p>
<p>The Democrats, for instance, would have opted for the &#8220;permitted&#8221; use rather than the &#8220;proscribed&#8221; one had they written that sentence.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sanction" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sanction</a><br />
1: to make valid or binding usually by a formal procedure (such as ratification)<br />
2: to give effective or authoritative approval or consent to<br />
3a: to attach a sanction or penalty to the violation of (a right, obligation, or command)<br />
b: to impose a sanction or penalty upon</p>
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		By: Dale Newland		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/04/election-irregularities-election-fraud-past-and-present/#comment-2587244</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dale Newland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2021 16:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The study identified illegal votes, but an investigation is needed to identify if some of the votes were fraudulent.  Were any of these votes from people who had died, had moved out of Wisconsin or were incompetent residents of care facilities?  Just a few examples from this sample should create probable cause for a thorough forensic audit like the one done in Arizona.  The only other way to stop illegal votes is for a large number of GOP election monitors working in suspect counties to issue provisional challenges to all illegal votes before they are counted.  A statute sanctioning allowance of illegal votes is also needed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The study identified illegal votes, but an investigation is needed to identify if some of the votes were fraudulent.  Were any of these votes from people who had died, had moved out of Wisconsin or were incompetent residents of care facilities?  Just a few examples from this sample should create probable cause for a thorough forensic audit like the one done in Arizona.  The only other way to stop illegal votes is for a large number of GOP election monitors working in suspect counties to issue provisional challenges to all illegal votes before they are counted.  A statute sanctioning allowance of illegal votes is also needed.</p>
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		By: geoffb		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/04/election-irregularities-election-fraud-past-and-present/#comment-2587185</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[geoffb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2021 04:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;[T]hey apparently “found” 12000 uncounted ballots in some unidentified county so what’s his face isn’t conceding.&quot;

Of course they did and 99% will be for the incumbent [D].]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;[T]hey apparently “found” 12000 uncounted ballots in some unidentified county so what’s his face isn’t conceding.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course they did and 99% will be for the incumbent [D].</p>
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		By: Megan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/04/election-irregularities-election-fraud-past-and-present/#comment-2587180</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Megan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2021 03:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Speaking of the truck driver winning,  they apparently &quot;found&quot; 12000 uncounted ballots in some unidentified county so what&#039;s his face isn&#039;t conceding.  Wish I had a fraction of that kind of luck.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of the truck driver winning,  they apparently &#8220;found&#8221; 12000 uncounted ballots in some unidentified county so what&#8217;s his face isn&#8217;t conceding.  Wish I had a fraction of that kind of luck.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/04/election-irregularities-election-fraud-past-and-present/#comment-2587143</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2021 01:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Robert Shotzberger:

The truck driver says $153 is the amount he spent on the primary.  He spent a whopping $5K on the election.  He says he pounded the pavement and went door to door talking to people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert Shotzberger:</p>
<p>The truck driver says $153 is the amount he spent on the primary.  He spent a whopping $5K on the election.  He says he pounded the pavement and went door to door talking to people.</p>
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		By: Robert Shotzberger		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/04/election-irregularities-election-fraud-past-and-present/#comment-2587131</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Shotzberger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2021 00:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There is a silver lining in New Jersey, a truck driver defeated the democrat senate president after spending on $153  what a blast.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a silver lining in New Jersey, a truck driver defeated the democrat senate president after spending on $153  what a blast.</p>
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		By: Yancey Ward		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/04/election-irregularities-election-fraud-past-and-present/#comment-2587123</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yancey Ward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2021 00:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They probably should have studied how many duplicate/names/addresses were of this sort:

John Smith
1234 Main Street
Somewhere, Wisconsin

When you are filling out tons of ballots for other people, your imagination on filling out the witness material is going to be limited.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They probably should have studied how many duplicate/names/addresses were of this sort:</p>
<p>John Smith<br />
1234 Main Street<br />
Somewhere, Wisconsin</p>
<p>When you are filling out tons of ballots for other people, your imagination on filling out the witness material is going to be limited.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/04/election-irregularities-election-fraud-past-and-present/#comment-2587094</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2021 21:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;Those tasked with administering the election willfully ignored and openly violated state law…&quot;&lt;/i&gt; cited report from Wisconsin 

If no prosecution, dox the responsible individuals. Then apply extra-legal consequences. Absent the rule of law, the only antidote to corruption and tyranny is grave physical consequence.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Those tasked with administering the election willfully ignored and openly violated state law…&#8221;</i> cited report from Wisconsin </p>
<p>If no prosecution, dox the responsible individuals. Then apply extra-legal consequences. Absent the rule of law, the only antidote to corruption and tyranny is grave physical consequence.</p>
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		By: charles		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/11/04/election-irregularities-election-fraud-past-and-present/#comment-2587092</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[charles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2021 21:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NJ born and raised here - I remember my high school history teacher, who was born and raised in Jersey City show us how cheating was done on paper ballots while counting them.

He had a small pencil (the small kind that you use at Ikea) that he held in the palm of his hand while counting ballots. With practice it really wasn&#039;t that hard to do so that others didn&#039;t even know that you were holding a small pencil. If you noticed that the opposing candidate was getting too many votes you would simply &quot;swipe&quot; the pencil across the paper ballot.  This then made that ballot invalid because any ballot that had markings that made it so that it wasn&#039;t clear who the voter intended the ballot was not counted.

Of course, paper ballots aren&#039;t used any more - but, the cheating has not gone away, it has simply become more complex.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NJ born and raised here &#8211; I remember my high school history teacher, who was born and raised in Jersey City show us how cheating was done on paper ballots while counting them.</p>
<p>He had a small pencil (the small kind that you use at Ikea) that he held in the palm of his hand while counting ballots. With practice it really wasn&#8217;t that hard to do so that others didn&#8217;t even know that you were holding a small pencil. If you noticed that the opposing candidate was getting too many votes you would simply &#8220;swipe&#8221; the pencil across the paper ballot.  This then made that ballot invalid because any ballot that had markings that made it so that it wasn&#8217;t clear who the voter intended the ballot was not counted.</p>
<p>Of course, paper ballots aren&#8217;t used any more &#8211; but, the cheating has not gone away, it has simply become more complex.</p>
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