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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Art Deco.  Yes, the bombing was immediately understood.  But the question of how it got there, who missed it, etc. was a very long time figuring out. 

It figures, imo, in why the CASB agreed on Arrowair 1285 that it was icing--five voted for iccing against four for onboard disabling incident.  On a day when no other aircraft reported icing.  Got 250 of our guys killed coming out of Gander.  So the Canadians in charge of keeping bombs off aircraft had already had a bad year and fudging the result wasn&#039;t going to bring our guys back.
Plus some clown in DC wanted to seal the records for seventy years.
Lots of ways to look shifty, and if it&#039;s unnecessary....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art Deco.  Yes, the bombing was immediately understood.  But the question of how it got there, who missed it, etc. was a very long time figuring out. </p>
<p>It figures, imo, in why the CASB agreed on Arrowair 1285 that it was icing&#8211;five voted for iccing against four for onboard disabling incident.  On a day when no other aircraft reported icing.  Got 250 of our guys killed coming out of Gander.  So the Canadians in charge of keeping bombs off aircraft had already had a bad year and fudging the result wasn&#8217;t going to bring our guys back.<br />
Plus some clown in DC wanted to seal the records for seventy years.<br />
Lots of ways to look shifty, and if it&#8217;s unnecessary&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2021 21:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I have an opinion informed by 38 years experience in aviation. You don’t agree. Then we’ll have to agree to disagree.&lt;/i&gt;

My opinion is that the agency which spends its time reconstructing aviation accidents has the most informed opinion.  This conversation began with someone on 11 October at 1:54 pm insisting that the NTSB&#039;s explanation was &#039;not possible&#039;, which was followed by somewhat less categorical remarks by various other characters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I have an opinion informed by 38 years experience in aviation. You don’t agree. Then we’ll have to agree to disagree.</i></p>
<p>My opinion is that the agency which spends its time reconstructing aviation accidents has the most informed opinion.  This conversation began with someone on 11 October at 1:54 pm insisting that the NTSB&#8217;s explanation was &#8216;not possible&#8217;, which was followed by somewhat less categorical remarks by various other characters.</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2021 04:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Art Deco: &quot;It’s a low probability event.

Several episodes are listed in Wikipedia. 

What’s your contention, that the NTSB doesn’t know its business or that the NTSB is lying?&quot;

&quot;The NTSB concluded that the most likely source of sufficient voltage to cause ignition was a short from damaged wiring, or within electrical components of the FQIS. As not all components and wiring were recovered, pinpointing the source of the necessary voltage was not possible.&quot; 

The NTSB recommendation from this accident was for inert gas to be pumped into nearly empty tanks. This fix was too  expensive  for existing aircraft. So, it was implemented on new aircraft only. Some wiring inspections were done on existing aircraft, but there was never another  such fuel tank explosion that I&#039;m aware of. If  there had been ,it could be cause to  ground the  airplanes as unsafe.    The NTSB never  said they were certain that they knew what caused the accident.   They know their stuff, butt his case mystified most  people who know Boeing airliners and the way they are built.  A close friend was co-pilot on a 747 that  lost its cargo door enroute  to Auckland from Honolulu.  It resulted in an explosive decompression that tore a hole in the side of the plan and damaged both engines on the starboard side. Some passengers were sucked out of the  aircraft during the decompression. That  the fuselage stayed in one piece is a testament to the ruggedness of Boeing air frames.  

My friend knew the B-747 well. He and I discussed the TWA accident and he believed the NTSB had to  find a cause and the fuel tank explosion was the only straw they  could grasp.  

I have an opinion informed by 38 years experience in aviation. You don&#039;t agree. Then we&#039;ll have to agree to disagree.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art Deco: &#8220;It’s a low probability event.</p>
<p>Several episodes are listed in Wikipedia. </p>
<p>What’s your contention, that the NTSB doesn’t know its business or that the NTSB is lying?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The NTSB concluded that the most likely source of sufficient voltage to cause ignition was a short from damaged wiring, or within electrical components of the FQIS. As not all components and wiring were recovered, pinpointing the source of the necessary voltage was not possible.&#8221; </p>
<p>The NTSB recommendation from this accident was for inert gas to be pumped into nearly empty tanks. This fix was too  expensive  for existing aircraft. So, it was implemented on new aircraft only. Some wiring inspections were done on existing aircraft, but there was never another  such fuel tank explosion that I&#8217;m aware of. If  there had been ,it could be cause to  ground the  airplanes as unsafe.    The NTSB never  said they were certain that they knew what caused the accident.   They know their stuff, butt his case mystified most  people who know Boeing airliners and the way they are built.  A close friend was co-pilot on a 747 that  lost its cargo door enroute  to Auckland from Honolulu.  It resulted in an explosive decompression that tore a hole in the side of the plan and damaged both engines on the starboard side. Some passengers were sucked out of the  aircraft during the decompression. That  the fuselage stayed in one piece is a testament to the ruggedness of Boeing air frames.  </p>
<p>My friend knew the B-747 well. He and I discussed the TWA accident and he believed the NTSB had to  find a cause and the fuel tank explosion was the only straw they  could grasp.  </p>
<p>I have an opinion informed by 38 years experience in aviation. You don&#8217;t agree. Then we&#8217;ll have to agree to disagree.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2021 03:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The guys who blew up AirIndia eleven years earlier weren’t horsing around for grins. 350 people killed and it took the Canadians twenty years and a boatload of money to figure out who screwed up.&lt;/i&gt;

The commission of inquiry on the subject was in session for four years.  

It was understood right away the plane had been bombed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The guys who blew up AirIndia eleven years earlier weren’t horsing around for grins. 350 people killed and it took the Canadians twenty years and a boatload of money to figure out who screwed up.</i></p>
<p>The commission of inquiry on the subject was in session for four years.  </p>
<p>It was understood right away the plane had been bombed.</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2021 02:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gordon Scott.  I meant the usual naval SAM has a lethal range.   Considerably more than a 155mm HE round.  The MANPAD must hit or come extremely close with its 6-7lb warhead.
I&#039;d be interested in some clown getting hold of maybe the latest Sov MANPAD, or perhaps--it was the Redeye when I was in and so I&#039;m not in a position to know--the capabilities have been upgraded.  Looking at some other MANPADs, it seems TWA 800 might have been within their envelope, or at the edge.

The guys who blew up AirIndia eleven years earlier weren&#039;t horsing around for grins.   350 people killed and it took the Canadians twenty years and a boatload of money to figure out who screwed up.

But, as I say, there are two items which got my attention.   The optical delusion, if you will of streaks going up....    And the three separate and contradictory explanations for the explosive residue.  Clearly, one would have been satisfactory--the one about leftovers from shuttling troops to and from Gulf I five years earlier. Implausible but not refutable.

And one note--how can you tell how accurate it is and you can&#039;t believe any research will prove or disprove it:  No 747 was taken out of service to fix the asserted problem.  True?  Not true?  Not necessary?

In a sense, it&#039;s like the dems and vote fraud:  Nothing says complete honesty like endless efforts to hide evidence of complete honesty.
The 1993 attempt at the WTC took some organizing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gordon Scott.  I meant the usual naval SAM has a lethal range.   Considerably more than a 155mm HE round.  The MANPAD must hit or come extremely close with its 6-7lb warhead.<br />
I&#8217;d be interested in some clown getting hold of maybe the latest Sov MANPAD, or perhaps&#8211;it was the Redeye when I was in and so I&#8217;m not in a position to know&#8211;the capabilities have been upgraded.  Looking at some other MANPADs, it seems TWA 800 might have been within their envelope, or at the edge.</p>
<p>The guys who blew up AirIndia eleven years earlier weren&#8217;t horsing around for grins.   350 people killed and it took the Canadians twenty years and a boatload of money to figure out who screwed up.</p>
<p>But, as I say, there are two items which got my attention.   The optical delusion, if you will of streaks going up&#8230;.    And the three separate and contradictory explanations for the explosive residue.  Clearly, one would have been satisfactory&#8211;the one about leftovers from shuttling troops to and from Gulf I five years earlier. Implausible but not refutable.</p>
<p>And one note&#8211;how can you tell how accurate it is and you can&#8217;t believe any research will prove or disprove it:  No 747 was taken out of service to fix the asserted problem.  True?  Not true?  Not necessary?</p>
<p>In a sense, it&#8217;s like the dems and vote fraud:  Nothing says complete honesty like endless efforts to hide evidence of complete honesty.<br />
The 1993 attempt at the WTC took some organizing.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2021 00:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I’m convinced art deco is the smartest and most cultvated man in the world.&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m convinced you&#039;re a twerp.  You&#039;re all making categorical statements about an event which requires scores of people months to investigate (actually, years in this case).  You expect no counterpoint just why?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I’m convinced art deco is the smartest and most cultvated man in the world.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m convinced you&#8217;re a twerp.  You&#8217;re all making categorical statements about an event which requires scores of people months to investigate (actually, years in this case).  You expect no counterpoint just why?</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2021 00:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;So, the question is why had there never been a previous explosion of this sort?&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s a low probability event. 

Several episodes are listed in Wikipedia. 

 What&#039;s your contention, that the NTSB doesn&#039;t know its business or that the NTSB is lying?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>So, the question is why had there never been a previous explosion of this sort?</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s a low probability event. </p>
<p>Several episodes are listed in Wikipedia. </p>
<p> What&#8217;s your contention, that the NTSB doesn&#8217;t know its business or that the NTSB is lying?</p>
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		By: Davemay		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Davemay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2021 00:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And he&#039;s a sexy, sexy guy who dances well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And he&#8217;s a sexy, sexy guy who dances well.</p>
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		By: Davemay		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Davemay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2021 23:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m convinced art deco is the smartest and most cultvated man in the world.]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2021 23:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[National Review argues:
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&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Southwest’s problems the past few days were not caused by imposition of a vaccine mandate.&lt;/b&gt; They seem to be the consequence of a long series of business decisions in response to the pandemic recovery that didn’t work out as well as planned, with bad weather mixed in for good measure.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/whats-going-on-with-southwest-airlines/&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>National Review argues:<br />
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<p><i><b>Southwest’s problems the past few days were not caused by imposition of a vaccine mandate.</b> They seem to be the consequence of a long series of business decisions in response to the pandemic recovery that didn’t work out as well as planned, with bad weather mixed in for good measure.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/whats-going-on-with-southwest-airlines/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/whats-going-on-with-southwest-airlines/</a></i></p>
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