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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/10/09/mcconnell-says-lets-make-a-deal/#comment-2582299</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rufus T. Firefly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2021 16:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Barry Meislin,

Frederick stated it better than I did, but I&#039;ll try.

You are intentionally ignoring all that came before voter&#039;s called the GOP&#039;s bluff and gave them the Congress and White House to repeal the ACA. Obviously it&#039;s not all on McConnell, but the GOP had 7 decades to reform healthcare through regulation and modifications to private providers; insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies, hospitals, provider networks...

Instead they chose to keep raising money on the fear the Dems were going to &quot;socialize medicine.&quot; McConnell did a good job of feigning anger when the ACA was finally pushed through and doing all he could to get it repealed when he was minority leader. And donations poured in.

How do you reconcile your theory that McConnell sincerely wanted to avoid something like the ACA with his actions before and after?

Back to my original point at the top of this post: If your number one concern is the Grand Ole Party you love Mitch McConnell. If your number one concern is adhering to the U.S. Constitution he is not your friend.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry Meislin,</p>
<p>Frederick stated it better than I did, but I&#8217;ll try.</p>
<p>You are intentionally ignoring all that came before voter&#8217;s called the GOP&#8217;s bluff and gave them the Congress and White House to repeal the ACA. Obviously it&#8217;s not all on McConnell, but the GOP had 7 decades to reform healthcare through regulation and modifications to private providers; insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies, hospitals, provider networks&#8230;</p>
<p>Instead they chose to keep raising money on the fear the Dems were going to &#8220;socialize medicine.&#8221; McConnell did a good job of feigning anger when the ACA was finally pushed through and doing all he could to get it repealed when he was minority leader. And donations poured in.</p>
<p>How do you reconcile your theory that McConnell sincerely wanted to avoid something like the ACA with his actions before and after?</p>
<p>Back to my original point at the top of this post: If your number one concern is the Grand Ole Party you love Mitch McConnell. If your number one concern is adhering to the U.S. Constitution he is not your friend.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/10/09/mcconnell-says-lets-make-a-deal/#comment-2582293</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2021 16:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, I get it.
McConnell thought that repealing ACA was a done deal because McCain said he was going to vote to repeal.
Therefore, with the votes in hand, McConnell didn&#039;t (for whatever reason, or maybe there were specific reasons...possibly(?), let&#039;s go out on a limb here and say(?) connected to local Maine and Alaska politics?) pressure either Collins or Murkowski...because he didn&#039;t have to---he had McCain&#039;s word, you see).

And then McCain reneged.
And it&#039;s McConnell&#039;s fault.
Got it.
(Obviously because McConnell shoulda known that McCain was going to renege and/or McConnell shoulda prepared for that possibility.... On the other hand, how do you make Collins and/or Murkowski do things that they&#039;re not going to do? Never mind. McConnell shoulda done it.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I get it.<br />
McConnell thought that repealing ACA was a done deal because McCain said he was going to vote to repeal.<br />
Therefore, with the votes in hand, McConnell didn&#8217;t (for whatever reason, or maybe there were specific reasons&#8230;possibly(?), let&#8217;s go out on a limb here and say(?) connected to local Maine and Alaska politics?) pressure either Collins or Murkowski&#8230;because he didn&#8217;t have to&#8212;he had McCain&#8217;s word, you see).</p>
<p>And then McCain reneged.<br />
And it&#8217;s McConnell&#8217;s fault.<br />
Got it.<br />
(Obviously because McConnell shoulda known that McCain was going to renege and/or McConnell shoulda prepared for that possibility&#8230;. On the other hand, how do you make Collins and/or Murkowski do things that they&#8217;re not going to do? Never mind. McConnell shoulda done it.)</p>
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		By: Frederick		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frederick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2021 16:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Barry Meislin:&lt;i&gt;Why, then did McCain change his mind?&lt;/i&gt;

You&#039;d have to ask him, wouldn&#039;t you? And you&#039;d have to ask McConnell about what he offered the three holdouts (not just McCain) and why they refused, or if he didn&#039;t offer anything why didn&#039;t he?

The facts speak for themselves. He had no trouble getting the votes when Obama was there to veto repeal. His party had the majority. He had three holdouts, not just one, two of which had voted for it before. He could get 51-48 on tax cuts somehow.

&lt;i&gt;Republicans in Congress moved with remarkable speed in their bid to enact the biggest tax overhaul since 1986, unveiling legislation to rewrite the tax code, marshaling support for their effort and devising a compromise between the House and Senate in under two months.

The success within reach would be a stark contrast with their attempt this year to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act, a quest that was encumbered by internal divisions among Republicans and ultimately ended in humiliating failure.

“People wanted to get it done,” Senator John Cornyn of Texas, the No. 2 Senate Republican, said of the tax rewrite. “That’s the single biggest difference.”
&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, indeed it is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Barry Meislin:<i>Why, then did McCain change his mind?</i></p>
<p>You&#8217;d have to ask him, wouldn&#8217;t you? And you&#8217;d have to ask McConnell about what he offered the three holdouts (not just McCain) and why they refused, or if he didn&#8217;t offer anything why didn&#8217;t he?</p>
<p>The facts speak for themselves. He had no trouble getting the votes when Obama was there to veto repeal. His party had the majority. He had three holdouts, not just one, two of which had voted for it before. He could get 51-48 on tax cuts somehow.</p>
<p><i>Republicans in Congress moved with remarkable speed in their bid to enact the biggest tax overhaul since 1986, unveiling legislation to rewrite the tax code, marshaling support for their effort and devising a compromise between the House and Senate in under two months.</p>
<p>The success within reach would be a stark contrast with their attempt this year to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act, a quest that was encumbered by internal divisions among Republicans and ultimately ended in humiliating failure.</p>
<p>“People wanted to get it done,” Senator John Cornyn of Texas, the No. 2 Senate Republican, said of the tax rewrite. “That’s the single biggest difference.”<br />
</i></p>
<p>Yes, indeed it is.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/10/09/mcconnell-says-lets-make-a-deal/#comment-2582287</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2021 16:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry, I don&#039;t understand.
Why, then, did McCain change his mind?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I don&#8217;t understand.<br />
Why, then, did McCain change his mind?</p>
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		By: Frederick		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/10/09/mcconnell-says-lets-make-a-deal/#comment-2582282</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2021 15:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Barry Meislin:&lt;i&gt;So if I’m understanding this correctly then I must conclude that McConnell ORDERED McCain to change his vote (regarding ACA)?&lt;/i&gt;

You seem to be trying very hard to misstate rather than &quot;understand&quot;. It&#039;s been stated very clearly by multiple people. Not one commenter said anything like this; you just invented it out of whole cloth.

What is REALLY being said is that the Republicans give the illusion of opposition to the Dems. They do the bare minimum to be credible with their base and get reelected.  With ACA this was very notable. They had many, many votes to repeal when Obama was there to veto and there was no chance of it becoming real. When they had a Republican president who would let repeal stick, one vote and done, can&#039;t do anything about those gosh darn mavericks.

It&#039;s not just ACA by any means. For example, the Biden cabinet picks.  Look how many Republicans go along with Biden&#039;s picks who would not go along with Trump&#039;s.

Merrick Garland, who&#039;s now calling moms at school board meetings &quot;terrorists&quot; got confirmed 70-30.  20 R&#039;s were perfectly good with that.  They go along so that when the $1.5 T or $3.5 T or $5.0 T spending bill gets passed, their buddies get a share...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Barry Meislin:<i>So if I’m understanding this correctly then I must conclude that McConnell ORDERED McCain to change his vote (regarding ACA)?</i></p>
<p>You seem to be trying very hard to misstate rather than &#8220;understand&#8221;. It&#8217;s been stated very clearly by multiple people. Not one commenter said anything like this; you just invented it out of whole cloth.</p>
<p>What is REALLY being said is that the Republicans give the illusion of opposition to the Dems. They do the bare minimum to be credible with their base and get reelected.  With ACA this was very notable. They had many, many votes to repeal when Obama was there to veto and there was no chance of it becoming real. When they had a Republican president who would let repeal stick, one vote and done, can&#8217;t do anything about those gosh darn mavericks.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just ACA by any means. For example, the Biden cabinet picks.  Look how many Republicans go along with Biden&#8217;s picks who would not go along with Trump&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Merrick Garland, who&#8217;s now calling moms at school board meetings &#8220;terrorists&#8221; got confirmed 70-30.  20 R&#8217;s were perfectly good with that.  They go along so that when the $1.5 T or $3.5 T or $5.0 T spending bill gets passed, their buddies get a share&#8230;</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/10/09/mcconnell-says-lets-make-a-deal/#comment-2582265</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2021 13:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So if I&#039;m understanding this correctly then I must conclude that McConnell ORDERED McCain to change his vote (regarding ACA)?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if I&#8217;m understanding this correctly then I must conclude that McConnell ORDERED McCain to change his vote (regarding ACA)?</p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/10/09/mcconnell-says-lets-make-a-deal/#comment-2582262</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rufus T. Firefly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2021 13:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Barry Meislin,

Look at how many false starts and mis-steps the Dems had with federalizing the medical industry. From FDR&#039;s second bill of rights to Teddy Kennedy and his failed Presidential runs to the First Lady&#039;s Healthcare Security Act of 1993 to the ACA.

They Never. Stopped. Trying.

They faced immense pushback, bad luck, unexpected events, but kept finding new, innovative ways to implement their goal.

The Republicans had 7 decades of notice and they could do nothing to eliminate or diminish the issue? McConnell loses one vote by one vote and it&#039;s over?!

The Republicans do not fight for us. Has McConnell done anything in 37 years to risk personally getting re-elected? Democrats will gladly throw some office holders aside to reach their goals. Then see that the sacrificial lambs are re-elected, or appointed to some other, lucrative position.

McConnell&#039;s 37 year history is precisely why Trump was elected. Cruz, Rubio, Bush, Christie, Walker... A broad selection of good, experienced Republican leaders. America said, &quot;No more!&quot; And flipped a big, middle finger to the GOP.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry Meislin,</p>
<p>Look at how many false starts and mis-steps the Dems had with federalizing the medical industry. From FDR&#8217;s second bill of rights to Teddy Kennedy and his failed Presidential runs to the First Lady&#8217;s Healthcare Security Act of 1993 to the ACA.</p>
<p>They Never. Stopped. Trying.</p>
<p>They faced immense pushback, bad luck, unexpected events, but kept finding new, innovative ways to implement their goal.</p>
<p>The Republicans had 7 decades of notice and they could do nothing to eliminate or diminish the issue? McConnell loses one vote by one vote and it&#8217;s over?!</p>
<p>The Republicans do not fight for us. Has McConnell done anything in 37 years to risk personally getting re-elected? Democrats will gladly throw some office holders aside to reach their goals. Then see that the sacrificial lambs are re-elected, or appointed to some other, lucrative position.</p>
<p>McConnell&#8217;s 37 year history is precisely why Trump was elected. Cruz, Rubio, Bush, Christie, Walker&#8230; A broad selection of good, experienced Republican leaders. America said, &#8220;No more!&#8221; And flipped a big, middle finger to the GOP.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/10/09/mcconnell-says-lets-make-a-deal/#comment-2582252</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2021 12:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When a Senator claims he/she/IT(?) will be voting AGAINST something and then---LAST MINUTE---goes back on his/her/ITs(?) word...then it&#039;s the fault of the Senate majority leader?

Interesting concept...

Silly me: it&#039;s not even the fault of the Senate Majority Leader! It&#039;s PRECISELY what the Senate Majority Leader wants....
(Even more interesting...)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When a Senator claims he/she/IT(?) will be voting AGAINST something and then&#8212;LAST MINUTE&#8212;goes back on his/her/ITs(?) word&#8230;then it&#8217;s the fault of the Senate majority leader?</p>
<p>Interesting concept&#8230;</p>
<p>Silly me: it&#8217;s not even the fault of the Senate Majority Leader! It&#8217;s PRECISELY what the Senate Majority Leader wants&#8230;.<br />
(Even more interesting&#8230;)</p>
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		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2021/10/09/mcconnell-says-lets-make-a-deal/#comment-2582243</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rufus T. Firefly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2021 10:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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