Not entirely connected, but Zinnser, “Rats, Lice, and History” describes a pre-penicillin world.

You have not experienced ignorant, uneducated, subsistence lifestyle rural blacks like I have, in the 1960s and ’70s. Have you ever been in rural south Alabama or Mississippi? Surely not.

I don’t think there was a high level of medical sophistication in the population in general back then, either.

As far as sulfa goes as a syphilis treatment, I have read lengthy articles on the history of syphilis and its treatment and do not recall ever reading that sulfa was used for that particular purpose (treating syphilis) prior to the advent of penicillin. For example:

In 1916, A. Robert and Benjamin Sauton discovered the trypanocidal properties of bismuth, and in 1921, Robert Sazerac, Constantin Levaditi and Louis Fournier successfully treated syphilis with bismuth. It then became apparent that for arsenic to be effective, it had to be combined with small doses of either bismuth or mercury. Arsenic, mainly arsphenamine, neoarsphenamine, acetarsone and mapharside, in combination with bismuth or mercury, then became the mainstay of treatment for syphilis until the advent of penicillin in 1943.

The article adds that for neurosyphilis they sometimes gave the patient maleria to induce a fever, and then quinine.

These cures were not all that effective and were toxic. But that’s apparently all there was for syphilis until penicillin, which was remarkably effective in those days and relatively safe.

Also, no one here is saying anything even remotely like “this was worse than the 60 million murders of Mao, or the abandonment of South Vietnam.” Where would you even get that idea?

Let us keep things in perspective!

Gb, that is why war.

Americans held back because i psionically projected the prince of peace aura.

I have withdrawn it and the blessings of north america since the last few months.

Things will progressive relatively quickly from now on. 2 months.

In feb 2020 i wrote that the world was not ending and people would not die as expected from covid. Because i and god were healing the issue. When god tells me the world is ending, i will inform humanity.

I am now informing.

Scary aside: because medicine has advanced so much maybe we aren’t learning as much as we can about some diseases because modern medicine prevents diseases from progressing naturally (yes, diseases are progressive, not conservative).

I think it’s important to distinguish between two levels of evil. In the early stages, 1932-1943, the men were lied to but not denied effective treatment since there were no effective treatments. That was ethically wrong but the men were not actually harmed. From 1943 to 1972, which is when the study came under public scrutiny and was ended, the subjects were not only lied to and denied effective treatment but the fact that they were lied to about being treated may have kept some from seeking effective treatment that was widely available elsewhere.

In 1932, the USPHS, working with the Tuskegee Institute, began a study to record the natural history of syphilis. It was originally called the “Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male” (now referred to as the “USPHS Syphilis Study at Tuskegee”). The study initially involved 600 Black men – 399 with syphilis, 201 who did not have the disease. Participants’ informed consent was not collected. Researchers told the men they were being treated for “bad blood,” a local term used to describe several ailments, including syphilis, anemia, and fatigue. In exchange for taking part in the study, the men received free medical exams, free meals, and burial insurance.

By 1943, penicillin was the treatment of choice for syphilis and becoming widely available, but the participants in the study were not offered treatment.

“Rather, blacks are obsessed with the idea that the system is racist.”

That’s true, as is the fact that 32% of blacks perceive racist attitudes among the majority of blacks.

However it is not the ‘karens’ bringing down the power of the establishment upon their heads that is responsible for their belief that “the system” is racist.

Though some racism remains, America may well be the least racist society on earth. It’s really quite simple, if they don’t play the victim, they have to take responsibility for the consequences of their choices.

Ymar,

We’re not going to experience another “10 years under Kama Xiden”. What can’t go on… won’t go on. Most of all because in their ideological fanaticism they’ll simply go too far. They’re already stepping over the line in multiple areas. The restraint Americans are demonstrating is out of loyalty to simple decency and Constitutional governance.

They can’t stop. They lack a feedback mechanism to rein their madness in, and so like all tyrants, they sow the seeds of their own destruction.